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Post by gillan1220 on Jun 9, 2020 6:11:39 GMT
It's August 2012. The RIMPAC fleet off Hawaii just defeated the alien scouting party that landed in Hawaii. Elsewhere however, Hong Kong is heavily damaged by an alien landing craft and one lands in Scotland where it is discovered by two kids.
Does the world go Independence Day style of unity now that an alien scouting party came to Earth? For sure they will be back.
How will this affect Obama's reelection by November?
And what would the geopolitical stance of the rest of the 2010s be?
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Post by ukron on Jun 9, 2020 6:15:54 GMT
China and Russia are very likely to strengthen their own integration into the organization of Shanghai, an explosion in military budgets and a serious reduction in disarmament treaties, but with a probable strengthening of diplomatic relations between China and its neighbors.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jun 9, 2020 13:10:40 GMT
China and Russia are very likely to strengthen their own integration into the organization of Shanghai, an explosion in military budgets and a serious reduction in disarmament treaties, but with a probable strengthening of diplomatic relations between China and its neighbors. Would they cooperate with the U.S. and NATO incase of future alien incursions? |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 9, 2020 13:36:40 GMT
It's August 2012. The RIMPAC fleet off Hawaii just defeated the alien scouting party that landed in Hawaii. Elsewhere however, Hong Kong is heavily damaged by an alien landing craft and one lands in Scotland where it is discovered by two kids. Does the world go Independence Day style of unity now that an alien scouting party came to Earth? For sure they will be back. How will this affect Obama's reelection by November? And what would the geopolitical stance of the rest of the 2010s be? According to the movie more than 25,000 people died in the Hong Kong crash, together with the Regents (that is what they are called on the Wikipedia site of the movie) attack on Hawaii, the death toll could be somewhere in the 30,000 to 35,000 deaths give ore take. YouTube clip (crash on Hong Kong)YouTube clip (Shredder Drones attack Pearl Harbor)
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Post by stevep on Jun 9, 2020 14:17:38 GMT
It's August 2012. The RIMPAC fleet off Hawaii just defeated the alien scouting party that landed in Hawaii. Elsewhere however, Hong Kong is heavily damaged by an alien landing craft and one lands in Scotland where it is discovered by two kids. Does the world go Independence Day style of unity now that an alien scouting party came to Earth? For sure they will be back. How will this affect Obama's reelection by November? And what would the geopolitical stance of the rest of the 2010s be? According to the movie more than 25,000 people died in the Hong Kong crash, together with the Regents (that is what they are called on the Wikipedia site of the movie) attack on Hawaii, the death toll could be somewhere in the 30,000 to 35,000 deaths give ore take. YouTube clip (crash on Hong Kong)YouTube clip (Shredder Drones attack Pearl Harbor)
So the aliens hate baseball. Possibly they bet on the wrong team. Given how indestructible those shredders seem to be, albeit very erratic in their targeting its a wonder that an elderly relic could stop the aliens.
Presuming that Beijing blamed the damage in Hong Kong on terrorists aka local democracy campaigners.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 9, 2020 14:24:17 GMT
Presuming that Beijing blamed the damage in Hong Kong on terrorists aka local democracy campaigners.
Whell it seems that they can blame it on Scotland, it is where one of the aliens escape pods crashed. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jun 9, 2020 16:43:43 GMT
TV Tropes has an alternate character interpretation that aliens are not so evil as we think they are. I mean they are not given a backstory like the Harvesters in Independence Day.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 9, 2020 17:00:14 GMT
TV Tropes has an alternate character interpretation that aliens are not so evil as we think they are. I mean they are not given a backstory like the Harvesters in Independence Day. Whatever the reason, Humankind knows where they live and will blame them for tens of thousands of death, what is the change that the Regents will send a second fleet to find out what happen to their first fleet. |
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Post by ukron on Jun 10, 2020 7:00:17 GMT
With all the technology recovered, I think that a new cold war between the different powers is possible, the Americans have recovered dozens of carcasses of spacecraft and exoskeletons like China, Japan or even the United Kingdom.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jun 10, 2020 9:40:14 GMT
With all the technology recovered, I think that a new cold war between the different powers is possible, the Americans have recovered dozens of carcasses of spacecraft and exoskeletons like China, Japan or even the United Kingdom. Oh I'm sure the PLA would want to discover and study the wreckage of the craft the crashed in Hong Kong. |
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Post by stevep on Jun 10, 2020 9:57:28 GMT
I think I caught the tail end of the film and saw the bit were about 8-10 people are manually lugging a 16" shell to a gun which showed me enough as, if using the WWII rounds their only 2,700lbs in weight so that was some impressive weight lifting.  Then that manages to destroy the alien ground base and suddenly that seemed to be it. However obviously other things happened world-wide but since the damage at Hong Kong was from a ship crashing was that caused by an accident of some form and what landed at Hawaii was simply a secondary survival pod of some form? |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 10, 2020 13:50:54 GMT
I think I caught the tail end of the film and saw the bit were about 8-10 people are manually lugging a 16" shell to a gun which showed me enough as, if using the WWII rounds their only 2,700lbs in weight so that was some impressive weight lifting. Then that manages to destroy the alien ground base and suddenly that seemed to be it. However obviously other things happened world-wide but since the damage at Hong Kong was from a ship crashing was that caused by an accident of some form and what landed at Hawaii was simply a secondary survival pod of some form? Well you can always read this, it comes from the Wikipedia article of the movie.
In 2005, the Gliese planetary system is discovered to have a potentially habitable planet with conditions similar to Earth and a communications array is built by NASA in Hawaii a year later designed to send transmissions to the planet to establish contact with any intelligent life. Meanwhile, Alex Hopper is arrested while attempting to impress Sam Shane, the daughter of Admiral Terrance Shane. His brother, Commander Stone Hopper, forces Alex to join the U.S. Navy in order to improve his life.
In 2012, Alex and Sam are in a relationship; Alex serves as a Tactical Actions Officer as a lieutenant aboard USS John Paul Jones while Stone is the commanding officer of USS Sampson, but Alex is in danger of receiving a disciplinary discharge. During the 2012 RIMPAC exercise, five alien spacecraft arrive. Their communications ship collides with a satellite and crashes in Hong Kong while the other four land in the waters off Hawaii. Sampson, John Paul Jones, and Japanese destroyer JDS Myōkō are ordered by Admiral Shane to investigate, and they discover a floating structure. When it is touched by Alex it generates a force field that encloses the Hawaiian Islands, isolating them and the three ships from the rest of the world and the RIMPAC fleet, while jamming all radar and communication equipment in it. Three alien warships surface and in the ensuing engagement (first horns are sounded where the aliens respond with a sonic horn, then a warning shot which the aliens perceive as an attack), the Sampson and Myōkō are both destroyed, resulting in Stone's death, and the command crew of John Paul Jones are killed, with Alex assuming command of the ship as the second-in-command. The fight ends when John Paul Jones disengages the enemy to recover the survivors from Myōkō including its commanding officer, Captain Yugi Nagata. However, the Sampson is lost with all hands. After the fight, the aliens launch drones to attack Hawaii which cause heavy damage.
On Oahu, Sam is accompanying retired U.S. Army lieutenant colonel and double amputee Mick Canales on a mountain hike. After becoming aware of the aliens' presence, they encounter scientist Cal Zapata who informs them the aliens have taken over the communications array, and Mick determines they are planning to use it to re-establish military communications with their home planet. Aboard John Paul Jones, naval personnel capture a semi-conscious alien. The alien forms a telepathic link with Alex, showing him their history of destroying worlds. Other aliens arrive and retrieve their comrade, but Alex leads a team to prevent them from sabotaging the ship. Examination of the captured alien's helmet reveals the aliens are sensitive to sunlight. Ashore, Sam, Nick and Zapata recover his spectrum analyzer from the aliens and they use it to radio John Paul Jones to inform them the aliens intend military telecommunication with their home planet in four hours.
As night falls Captain Nagata suggests a strategy of using the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration tsunami warning buoys around Hawaii to track the alien warships without radar. This allows John Paul Jones to destroy two of them with her missiles. However, the third ship is making evasive movements that make it impossible to predict its course, but Alex has them lure the remaining warship eastwards at dawn, as Alex and Nagata shoot out its bridge windows, blinding its crew and allowing John Paul Jones to destroy it. However, the mothership deploys drones which destroy the John Paul Jones.
The survivors return to Pearl Harbor and commandeer the previously decommissioned World War II battleship USS Missouri with the aid of the retired veterans preserving her, restoring her to battle readiness and confronting the floating structure, revealed to be a giant mothership. Missouri is able to severely damage the mothership and disable the force field, and Admiral Shane immediately summons a flight of Boeing F/A-18 fighter jets from aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan. Meanwhile, Sam, Mick and Cal attempt to stall the aliens at the communications array. Alex chooses to use their last shell to destroy the communications array, rendering the Missouri defenseless from drones launched by the foundering mothership. Just before impact, the drones are intercepted and destroyed by the previously dispatched Boeing F/A-18 fighter jets which then finish off the mothership, saving Missouri and eliminating the alien threat.
A ceremony is held to honor the military personnel, where Alex is promoted to lieutenant commander and presented with a Silver Star and his brother's posthumous Navy Cross. Admiral Shane promises Alex will soon have a ship of his own while he is also offered a chance to become a Navy SEAL. After the ceremony, Alex asks Sam's father Admiral Shane for her hand in marriage. The admiral refuses, but shortly thereafter invites Alex to lunch to discuss the matter, referencing how Alex first attempted to impress Sam.
In a post-credits scene, three teenagers and a handyman in Scotland discover a crashed alien pod. When they open it, an alien hand reaches out, and they run off in terror. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jun 10, 2020 15:38:42 GMT
Maybe the kids call the police, police calls in the Army, and the area is cordoned off by the British Army.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 10, 2020 15:58:23 GMT
Maybe the kids call the police, police calls in the Army, and the area is cordoned off by the British Army. And the British will get they only survivor of the Regents invasion ore scout mission to Earth. |
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Post by stevep on Jun 10, 2020 16:03:03 GMT
Maybe the kids call the police, police calls in the Army, and the area is cordoned off by the British Army.
Hopefully they would do so now. Should have done it as soon as they discovered the bloody thing rather than them and the mechanic guy playing silly buggers and spending hours trying to get it open.
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Then that manages to destroy the alien ground base and suddenly that seemed to be it. However obviously other things happened world-wide but since the damage at Hong Kong was from a ship crashing was that caused by an accident of some form and what landed at Hawaii was simply a secondary survival pod of some form?