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Post by stevep on Sept 9, 2022 11:48:45 GMT
stevep , ISOT query - if 1937 Poland was sent to 1987, how much of the damage done by Chernobyl will no longer exist?
Well the area itself won't be affected as it was part of the USSR from ~1922 but parts of 1937 Poland which were affected would be no longer contaminated. They would however almost certainly face a Soviet invasion as their taken parts of OTL Poland along with Ukraine and Belarus.
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Post by melanie on Sept 28, 2022 10:51:51 GMT
Scenario. ALL European colonies *and* concessions in China that exist as of 12:01AM Peking time zone on December 25th, 1903 to 12:01AM Peking time zone on December 25th, 1988.
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Post by stevep on Sept 28, 2022 21:10:27 GMT
Scenario. ALL European colonies *and* concessions in China that exist as of 12:01AM Peking time zone on December 25th, 1903 to 12:01AM Peking time zone on December 25th, 1988.
Quick action by the CCP to crush the 'reactionary pockets'. Other than possibly Hong Kong which is still technically British territory but in its 1903 form is going to be a lot more vulnerable and going to cause a fair bit of confusion.
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Post by melanie on Oct 1, 2022 3:44:14 GMT
stevep, I feel silly admitting I don't know but what ARE the European colonies and concessions in 1903 China? How badly will it mess up the 1988 PRC, just half a year before Tiananmen Square?
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Post by melanie on Oct 1, 2022 4:45:20 GMT
"At 0:500 GMT on June 23, 1980, all children in the UK and Australia and New Zealand are altered to speak and pronounce and behave as if they had been put through full interwar period British elocution and etiquette lessons, but their memories remain the same as before The Change. The Change is irreversible".
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Post by stevep on Oct 1, 2022 13:33:08 GMT
"At 0:500 GMT on June 23, 1980, all children in the UK and Australia and New Zealand are altered to speak and pronounce and behave as if they had been put through full interwar period British elocution and etiquette lessons, but their memories remain the same as before The Change. The Change is irreversible".
That would have some interesting effects. Especially if you mean all children literally which would involve things like families of foreign diplomats and businessmen and assorted non-white groups in Australia and New Zealand.
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Post by stevep on Oct 1, 2022 13:42:44 GMT
stevep , I feel silly admitting I don't know but what ARE the European colonies and concessions in 1903 China? How badly will it mess up the 1988 PRC, just half a year before Tiananmen Square?
Well there are a fair number, including most of those foreign concessions in China. Fortunately wiki had such a page as didn't know of most of them. A lot of them but most were pretty small. Big impact will probably be in Shanghai as a good chunk of its inner city is now back in its 1903 mode.
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Post by melanie on Oct 1, 2022 15:26:22 GMT
"At 0:500 GMT on June 23, 1980, all children in the UK and Australia and New Zealand are altered to speak and pronounce and behave as if they had been put through full interwar period British elocution and etiquette lessons, but their memories remain the same as before The Change. The Change is irreversible".
That would have some interesting effects. Especially if you mean all children literally which would involve things like families of foreign diplomats and businessmen and assorted non-white groups in Australia and New Zealand.
Yes, very interesting effects. Bwa-ha-hah!
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Post by melanie on Oct 15, 2022 14:57:13 GMT
Joseph Stalin keeps to his original "Oder-Eastern Neisse" plan for German-Polish Border.
Quite a bit of Silesia including Breslau, will thus be in the GDR.
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Post by shadow007 on Oct 16, 2022 5:05:55 GMT
1914 Berlin ISOT to 1095 at the start of the Crusades. The Berliners are much more Liberal, Educated, Healthier and Secular compared to Medieval Europe
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Post by melanie on Oct 16, 2022 18:59:41 GMT
Adult Chelsea Clinton SI into Puyi the day after he is enthroned as Emperor of Manchukuo
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Post by Zyobot on Dec 6, 2022 16:00:36 GMT
Rather "odd" scenario here, but: ‘What If The Dead Could Post Online?’. As in, people who’ve passed away not only exist after death, but can also upload content, comments, and social-media posts from beyond the grave. Maybe even livestreams, too, so long as they’re able to do everything else. They can finally tell us what the afterlife is like, too, so there’s that. {Other Ramifications I’ve Thought Of…} For one, I’m guessing friends and families of the deceased will have joyous, if also tearful reunions with those they’ve lost. Even if it’s only over a Skype call, that still beats the heck out of waiting a few more decades before meeting them again — wherever it is The Dead actually go.
Famous people’s another big one, though for those who died long before the internet went mainstream, I suppose ASB can hand-wave that and give them automatic proficiency in using it. Online interviews with historical figures like Julius Caesar or Alexander the Great? I’d certainly watch those! Unfortunately, I can’t vouch for how well they’d explain away all their Machiavellian power plays and innocent people they killed in their conquests to a twenty-first century audience. Probably BS their out of tough questions in much the same way as Putin, Assad, and other modern strongmen do when confronted by Western journalists, if I were to guess. :cautious:
That said, they’d still have it easier than more recent figures who modern society reviles to begin with having a presence online. Hitler on Twitter, for instance? That’d create a shitstorm for the ages! Of course, I doubt he’d last long before being banned or dog-piled by an army of unhappy users — dead and living alike — though he might find his niche writing opinion pieces for the Daily Stormer and other Neo-Nazi conspiracy sites, too, which is equally unpleasant to think about. Same for the rest of the hateful fringe, too, with Lenin, Stalin, and their fellow communists writing for Marxists.org and the like — not to mention getting into Twitter wars with Hitler and other Nazis. Heck, you’d probably see lots of inter-commie and inter-Nazi infighting, too, seeing as the Far Left is known for its purges and purity spirals, while Röhm and the SA would hold a grudge against Hitler for the Knight of the Long Knives.
All in all, a boon for scholars, the grieving, and trolls who live for chaos and discord. But on the other hand, probably a nightmare for lawmakers seeking to police incitement or hate speech from Hitler and the like, as well as a mixed bag for the justice system, which now has boatloads of testimony to collect from victims and quite the investigations ahead as new evidence comes to light.
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Post by shadow007 on Dec 7, 2022 5:23:28 GMT
Rather "odd" scenario here, but: ‘What If The Dead Could Post Online?’. As in, people who’ve passed away not only exist after death, but can also upload content, comments, and social-media posts from beyond the grave. Maybe even livestreams, too, so long as they’re able to do everything else. They can finally tell us what the afterlife is like, too, so there’s that. {Other Ramifications I’ve Thought Of…} For one, I’m guessing friends and families of the deceased will have joyous, if also tearful reunions with those they’ve lost. Even if it’s only over a Skype call, that still beats the heck out of waiting a few more decades before meeting them again — wherever it is The Dead actually go.
Famous people’s another big one, though for those who died long before the internet went mainstream, I suppose ASB can hand-wave that and give them automatic proficiency in using it. Online interviews with historical figures like Julius Caesar or Alexander the Great? I’d certainly watch those! Unfortunately, I can’t vouch for how well they’d explain away all their Machiavellian power plays and innocent people they killed in their conquests to a twenty-first century audience. Probably BS their out of tough questions in much the same way as Putin, Assad, and other modern strongmen do when confronted by Western journalists, if I were to guess. :cautious:
That said, they’d still have it easier than more recent figures who modern society reviles to begin with having a presence online. Hitler on Twitter, for instance? That’d create a shitstorm for the ages! Of course, I doubt he’d last long before being banned or dog-piled by an army of unhappy users — dead and living alike — though he might find his niche writing opinion pieces for the Daily Stormer and other Neo-Nazi conspiracy sites, too, which is equally unpleasant to think about. Same for the rest of the hateful fringe, too, with Lenin, Stalin, and their fellow communists writing for Marxists.org and the like — not to mention getting into Twitter wars with Hitler and other Nazis. Heck, you’d probably see lots of inter-commie and inter-Nazi infighting, too, seeing as the Far Left is known for its purges and purity spirals, while Röhm and the SA would hold a grudge against Hitler for the Knight of the Long Knives.
All in all, a boon for scholars, the grieving, and trolls who live for chaos and discord. But on the other hand, probably a nightmare for lawmakers seeking to police incitement or hate speech from Hitler and the like, as well as a mixed bag for the justice system, which now has boatloads of testimony to collect from victims and quite the investigations ahead as new evidence comes to light.
Technological development skyrockets. It would take a few months for Archimedes to understand Modern Science but after that he becomes a Permanent Scientist! Imagine all those dead Scientists/Craftsmen throughout history now pushing technology to its limits!!!
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Post by Zyobot on Dec 7, 2022 14:47:56 GMT
Rather "odd" scenario here, but: ‘What If The Dead Could Post Online?’. As in, people who’ve passed away not only exist after death, but can also upload content, comments, and social-media posts from beyond the grave. Maybe even livestreams, too, so long as they’re able to do everything else. They can finally tell us what the afterlife is like, too, so there’s that. {Other Ramifications I’ve Thought Of…} For one, I’m guessing friends and families of the deceased will have joyous, if also tearful reunions with those they’ve lost. Even if it’s only over a Skype call, that still beats the heck out of waiting a few more decades before meeting them again — wherever it is The Dead actually go.
Famous people’s another big one, though for those who died long before the internet went mainstream, I suppose ASB can hand-wave that and give them automatic proficiency in using it. Online interviews with historical figures like Julius Caesar or Alexander the Great? I’d certainly watch those! Unfortunately, I can’t vouch for how well they’d explain away all their Machiavellian power plays and innocent people they killed in their conquests to a twenty-first century audience. Probably BS their out of tough questions in much the same way as Putin, Assad, and other modern strongmen do when confronted by Western journalists, if I were to guess. :cautious:
That said, they’d still have it easier than more recent figures who modern society reviles to begin with having a presence online. Hitler on Twitter, for instance? That’d create a shitstorm for the ages! Of course, I doubt he’d last long before being banned or dog-piled by an army of unhappy users — dead and living alike — though he might find his niche writing opinion pieces for the Daily Stormer and other Neo-Nazi conspiracy sites, too, which is equally unpleasant to think about. Same for the rest of the hateful fringe, too, with Lenin, Stalin, and their fellow communists writing for Marxists.org and the like — not to mention getting into Twitter wars with Hitler and other Nazis. Heck, you’d probably see lots of inter-commie and inter-Nazi infighting, too, seeing as the Far Left is known for its purges and purity spirals, while Röhm and the SA would hold a grudge against Hitler for the Knight of the Long Knives.
All in all, a boon for scholars, the grieving, and trolls who live for chaos and discord. But on the other hand, probably a nightmare for lawmakers seeking to police incitement or hate speech from Hitler and the like, as well as a mixed bag for the justice system, which now has boatloads of testimony to collect from victims and quite the investigations ahead as new evidence comes to light.
Technological development skyrockets. It would take a few months for Archimedes to understand Modern Science but after that he becomes a Permanent Scientist! Imagine all those dead Scientists/Craftsmen throughout history now pushing technology to its limits!!! No, because the Dead can only post online after the internet arrives and becomes accessible for the average person. (e.g.: The mid-1990s or so.) So, no, not much technological advancement for the living, though yes, I’m sure many a dead thinker would be thrilled by modern science and innovations. Heck, even just the Web alone would be incredible, seeing as the average person has 24-7 access to a vast, ever-updating library of everything — something that even in my parents’ day, would’ve been unimaginable for most people.
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Post by shadow007 on Dec 10, 2022 2:13:29 GMT
Technological development skyrockets. It would take a few months for Archimedes to understand Modern Science but after that he becomes a Permanent Scientist! Imagine all those dead Scientists/Craftsmen throughout history now pushing technology to its limits!!! No, because the Dead can only post online after the internet arrives and becomes accessible for the average person. (e.g.: The mid-1990s or so.) So, no, not much technological advancement for the living, though yes, I’m sure many a dead thinker would be thrilled by modern science and innovations. Heck, even just the Web alone would be incredible, seeing as the average person has 24-7 access to a vast, ever-updating library of everything — something that even in my parents’ day, would’ve been unimaginable for most people. Thirty years for ALL THE DEAD SCIENTISTS/POLYMATHS/ETC to invent and improve knowledge!!! Imagine 2010s tech being available back in the 1990s!
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