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Post by lordroel on Jul 6, 2016 3:44:20 GMT
Yes, they have nukes in said scenario. Than the would someday in this scenario will fight each other.
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Post by whiteshore on Jul 6, 2016 4:50:54 GMT
Yes, and what of the three Sorelian powers do you think had the craziest post-war plan? Also, what country built the best "Second-class Battleship"? (OOC: Basically TTL's term for the Panzerschiffe along with other "Large Cruisers") Was it the German Deutschland-class? Or the French Dunkerque-class? The American Alaska-class? Or the Japanese Ezo-class (OOC: The B-65 design)? Also, what of the interwar battleships do you think was the best? I'd go with the Japanese Kii class (built in 1927-1930) as they were the first to have 18 inch guns and a decent top speed of 31 knots and laid the groundwork for IJN Yamato
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Post by lordroel on Jul 6, 2016 13:47:01 GMT
Yes, and what of the three Sorelian powers do you think had the craziest post-war plan? Also, what country built the best "Second-class Battleship"? (OOC: Basically TTL's term for the Panzerschiffe along with other "Large Cruisers") Was it the German Deutschland-class? Or the French Dunkerque-class? The American Alaska-class? Or the Japanese Ezo-class (OOC: The B-65 design)? Also, what of the interwar battleships do you think was the best? I'd go with the Japanese Kii class (built in 1927-1930) as they were the first to have 18 inch guns and a decent top speed of 31 knots and laid the groundwork for IJN Yamato American Alaska-class was almost the same as the Iowa-class so they could be ranked as best "Second-class Battleship".
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Post by whiteshore on Jul 8, 2016 10:39:37 GMT
What is your view on IJN Kii, Osaka, and Fukui (the Kii-class)?
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Post by lordroel on Jul 8, 2016 11:03:45 GMT
What is your view on IJN Kii, Osaka, and Fukui (the Kii-class)? Good ships when they where build.
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Post by whiteshore on Jul 8, 2016 11:33:57 GMT
What do you think of the fact the analogue to the "Berlin Naval Conference" in the "No Russian Constitution of 1881" was successful in stopping naval construction? Is it a bit implausible?
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Post by lordroel on Jul 8, 2016 11:40:03 GMT
What do you think of the fact the analogue to the "Berlin Naval Conference" in the "No Russian Constitution of 1881" was successful in stopping naval construction? Is it a bit implausible? It the same of a timeline i once read about the failed Washington Naval Treaty of 1922 succeeding, it will not work, countries always find a way to bypass a treaty.
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Post by whiteshore on Jul 8, 2016 11:45:56 GMT
Yes, by the start of WW2, the IJN had 18 Battleships, the UCN has 19 Battleships, the Holy British Navy had 13 Battleships, the Kaiserliche Marine had a staggering 36 Battleships, the USN had 24 Battleships, and the Russian Imperial Navy had 12 Battleships. In addition, the Japanese has 12 Carriers while the United Commonwealth had 7 Carriers and the Holy British Empire had 5 Carriers. The Germans also had 10 Carriers while the Americans had 7 Carriers and Russia had 4 Carriers.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 8, 2016 11:54:09 GMT
Yes, by the start of WW2, the IJN had 18 Battleships, the UCN has 19 Battleships, the Holy British Navy had 13 Battleships, the Kaiserliche Marine had a staggering 36 Battleships, the USN had 24 Battleships, and the Russian Imperial Navy had 12 Battleships. In addition, the Japanese has 12 Carriers while the United Commonwealth had 7 Carriers and the Holy British Empire had 5 Carriers. The Germans also had 10 Carriers while the Americans had 7 Carriers and Russia had 4 Carriers. It still surprise me that the no major force of the Holy British Navy defected to the United Commonwealth after it came into being in 1937 with only a minor defection happening in the twilight years (1937 to 1939) which where the two years that where neither war or peace between them and which ended when World War II broke out between at first the United Commonwealth and the Holy British Empire and their allies.
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Post by whiteshore on Jul 8, 2016 12:06:45 GMT
Said minor defection consisted of two light cruisers and half-a-dozen destroyers IIRC. Also, what do you think had the most extreme form of Sorelianism? The British, French, or the Japanese?
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Post by lordroel on Jul 8, 2016 12:16:46 GMT
Said minor defection consisted of two light cruisers and half-a-dozen destroyers IIRC. Also, what do you think had the most extreme form of Sorelianism? The British, French, or the Japanese? The British, followed by the French while i think the Japanese where never so heavy into Sorelianism otherwise the coup that removed the Japanese government could never have succeeded.
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Post by whiteshore on Jul 8, 2016 12:23:46 GMT
I could argue that Sadao Araki's Japanese Empire was a crazy military dictatorship with the trappings of a Sorelianist state. Also, how long do you think would it take for the Third French Empire and the Holy British Empire to fall out in an Entente victory scenario?
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Post by lordroel on Jul 8, 2016 12:26:04 GMT
I could argue that Sadao Araki's Japanese Empire was a crazy military dictatorship with the trappings of a Sorelianist state. Also, how long do you think would it take for the Third French Empire and the Holy British Empire to fall out in an Entente victory scenario? Soon i think, they where only allies because they knew with out each other to had a lesser change of winning that if they joined forces.
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Post by whiteshore on Jul 8, 2016 12:30:19 GMT
Yes, the pseudo-Bonapartist regime in the Third French Empire and the crazy British supremacists in the Holy British Empire had ideologies which were incompatible with each other. Also, what was the most heinous crime committed by the Third French Empire? Their sick colonial atrocities (OOC: Basically the Congo Free State writ large)?
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Post by lordroel on Jul 8, 2016 12:32:13 GMT
Yes, the pseudo-Bonapartist regime in the Third French Empire and the crazy British supremacists in the Holy British Empire had ideologies which were incompatible with each other. Also, what was the most heinous crime committed by the Third French Empire? Their sick colonial atrocities (OOC: Basically the Congo Free State writ large)? In Europe it was the attempt to kill as many Germans as they could, i think they tried to follow the Holy British Empire attempt to clean out the Scots and the Irish, in Africa it is the killings in French Algeria.
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