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Post by Tipsyfish on May 21, 2016 23:18:26 GMT
While making a video about Portugal I ended up coming across War Plan Grey which was created by the U.S military in 1941 to invade the Azores islands that are under Portuguese control. This was to prevent them from falling into the hands of Nazi Germany but the plans were created before the U.S had entered the war. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about this in my research but what you think would happen if the U.S invaded the islands. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Gray |
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Post by lordroel on May 22, 2016 7:48:30 GMT
While making a video about Portugal I ended up coming across War Plan Grey which was created by the U.S military in 1941 to invade the Azores islands that are under Portuguese control. This was to prevent them from falling into the hands of Nazi Germany but the plans were created before the U.S had entered the war. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about this in my research but what you think would happen if the U.S invaded the islands. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_GrayCould the US not make a agreement of just buying the island from Portugal. |
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Post by spanishspy on May 22, 2016 8:16:05 GMT
While making a video about Portugal I ended up coming across War Plan Grey which was created by the U.S military in 1941 to invade the Azores islands that are under Portuguese control. This was to prevent them from falling into the hands of Nazi Germany but the plans were created before the U.S had entered the war. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about this in my research but what you think would happen if the U.S invaded the islands. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_GrayCould the US not make a agreement of just buying the island from Portugal. They wouldn't likely have needed to that; Salazar was not the fondest of the Nazis and may let them make airbases on the islands. Heck, that might have happened OTL. |
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Post by lordroel on May 22, 2016 8:37:46 GMT
Could the US not make a agreement of just buying the island from Portugal. They wouldn't likely have needed to that; Salazar was not the fondest of the Nazis and may let them make airbases on the islands. Heck, that might have happened OTL. That could happen, a sort of secret lend lease, Portugal lease the island to the US and the US will provide Portugal with military hardware to defend itself. |
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Post by spanishspy on May 22, 2016 8:39:20 GMT
They wouldn't likely have needed to that; Salazar was not the fondest of the Nazis and may let them make airbases on the islands. Heck, that might have happened OTL. That could happen, a sort of secret lend lease, Portugal lease the island to the US and the US will provide Portugal with military hardware to defend itself. Against Franco's Spain? Likely. |
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Post by lordroel on May 22, 2016 9:00:52 GMT
That could happen, a sort of secret lend lease, Portugal lease the island to the US and the US will provide Portugal with military hardware to defend itself. Against Franco's Spain? Likely. But Franco was not stupid, he will never go to war against Portugal as that would mean he would be in the same camp as Germany, something he made every effort of staying out of. |
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Post by spanishspy on May 22, 2016 9:02:34 GMT
Against Franco's Spain? Likely. But Franco was not stupid, he will never go to war against Portugal as that would mean he would be in the same camp as Germany, something he made every effort of staying out of. But then Salazar would not be threatened by anyone. |
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Post by lordroel on May 22, 2016 10:23:01 GMT
But Franco was not stupid, he will never go to war against Portugal as that would mean he would be in the same camp as Germany, something he made every effort of staying out of. But then Salazar would not be threatened by anyone. Was he ever treated by Spain or Germany. |
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Post by spanishspy on May 22, 2016 23:25:58 GMT
But then Salazar would not be threatened by anyone. Was he ever treated by Spain or Germany. No, but he did take in many refugees from the war. |
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Post by lordroel on May 23, 2016 13:32:27 GMT
Was he ever treated by Spain or Germany. No, but he did take in many refugees from the war. Mostly who had money i would think. |
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Post by spanishspy on May 23, 2016 23:59:03 GMT
No, but he did take in many refugees from the war. Mostly who had money i would think. I would not be surprised. |
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Post by lordroel on May 24, 2016 2:48:29 GMT
Mostly who had money i would think. I would not be surprised. But i wonder what advantages the US would gain for either invading or buying the Azores Islands. |
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Post by spanishspy on May 24, 2016 5:21:16 GMT
I would not be surprised. But i wonder what advantages the US would gain for either invading or buying the Azores Islands. Potential ability to hamper Axis shipping, and a base for bombers targeting southern France. |
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Post by lordroel on May 24, 2016 13:59:43 GMT
But i wonder what advantages the US would gain for either invading or buying the Azores Islands. Potential ability to hamper Axis shipping, and a base for bombers targeting southern France. A base for bombers, the islands are located in the Atlantic ocean, the Allies if they want to strike Southern France can best use North Africa for it, the only use for the islands is as a ASW base. |
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Post by spanishspy on May 24, 2016 20:33:50 GMT
Potential ability to hamper Axis shipping, and a base for bombers targeting southern France. A base for bombers, the islands are located in the Atlantic ocean, the Allies if they want to strike Southern France can best use North Africa for it, the only use for the islands is as a ASW base. It could be used as a submarine base, and its distance makes it less vulnerable to German bombers. |
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