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Post by Max Sinister on Jan 15, 2024 14:37:48 GMT
Not what I mean. Rather, my aim is to make Judaism more evangelistic without Jesus (or anything else that spawns a whole new religion, for that matter). Doesn't have to be on the level of OTL Christianity, but it shouldn't be as reserved or insular as the Judaism we know, either. What if the kingdom of Israel somehow turns into a major power and conquers Egypt and/or Syria/Mesopotamia? That'd be a wank... unless they made some military invention (think of the Assyrians and iron weapons) which suddenly made them superior.
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Post by stevep on Jan 15, 2024 18:49:04 GMT
What if the kingdom of Israel somehow turns into a major power and conquers Egypt and/or Syria/Mesopotamia? That'd be a wank... unless they made some military invention (think of the Assyrians and iron weapons) which suddenly made them superior.
Even then unless they manage to convert a lot of the population in their new territories to Judaism its going to be an unstable situation as they will be ruling over a vastly greater population with a much longer history and radically different culture. Don't think that Judaism were that into making new converts so I can't see the empire lasting.
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Jan 16, 2024 18:16:10 GMT
Perhaps we need a new Jewish prophet who states that Judaism is not just for Jews but keeps the Mosaic law and Hebrew as the holy language?
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Jan 18, 2024 14:07:14 GMT
What if Poland got conquered by the Mongols in 1241 and became a part of the Golden Horde together with Kievan Rus?
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 21, 2024 23:45:03 GMT
‘AHC: 19th Century Nazis’.
Don’t have to be German, but they do need to be racist, genocidal totalitarians hellbent on the conquest and ultimate “purification” of Europe.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jan 23, 2024 2:25:20 GMT
What if Poland got conquered by the Mongols in 1241 and became a part of the Golden Horde together with Kievan Rus? Doesn't Poland have a lot of forests? That's something that could negate the Mongol advantages in cavalry. I would also think that if maybe having an internal turmoil within the Piasts might make Piast Poland a bit more divided, and the Mongols thrive on the disunity of their enemies. It might be the same with attempting to conquer Hungary though. It might also fall on the Holy Roman Empire itself to defend Europe against the Mongols. Consequently, the Golden Horde might also make an attempt at conquering most of the Baltics, so basically the lands of the Livonia Order and the Kingdom of Lithuania ending up as vassals of the Golden Horde |
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Jan 23, 2024 19:44:54 GMT
WI: Nikola Tesla with unlimited funding.
What does he come up with?
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 23, 2024 21:10:01 GMT
Rather edgy, but: 'Ultra-Evil USA'.
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Post by Max Sinister on Jan 25, 2024 9:23:01 GMT
Rather edgy, but: 'Ultra-Evil USA'. Have you read "Decades of Darkness"? |
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 25, 2024 14:59:43 GMT
Rather edgy, but: 'Ultra-Evil USA'. Have you read "Decades of Darkness"? Think I’ve heard about it, but can’t say I’ve read it.
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Post by stevep on Jan 25, 2024 19:56:40 GMT
Have you read "Decades of Darkness"? Think I’ve heard about it, but can’t say I’ve read it.
As usual, I suppose it’s over on AH.com?
Yes its one where the south wins independence in the 1860's and goes on an expansion sphere conquering much of the Caribbean and neighbouring areas. Also despite the continuation of slavery it somehow becomes IIRC the top economic power in the world in the following century or so as well as further territorial conquests. I found this highly unrealistic myself.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 26, 2024 22:20:57 GMT
‘What’s The Earliest Possible Worldwide Abolition Of Slavery?’.
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Post by Max Sinister on Jan 27, 2024 1:17:34 GMT
Think I’ve heard about it, but can’t say I’ve read it.
As usual, I suppose it’s over on AH.com?
Yes its one where the south wins independence in the 1860's and goes on an expansion sphere conquering much of the Caribbean and neighbouring areas. Also despite the continuation of slavery it somehow becomes IIRC the top economic power in the world in the following century or so as well as further territorial conquests. I found this highly unrealistic myself.
Hard to tell, but one thing is sure: They'd still own a continent full of resources.
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Post by stevep on Jan 27, 2024 15:24:59 GMT
Yes its one where the south wins independence in the 1860's and goes on an expansion sphere conquering much of the Caribbean and neighbouring areas. Also despite the continuation of slavery it somehow becomes IIRC the top economic power in the world in the following century or so as well as further territorial conquests. I found this highly unrealistic myself.
Hard to tell, but one thing is sure: They'd still own a continent full of resources.
Which continent would that be? At least initially it would only really be the old south and then parts of the Caribbean. The territory would be largely agricultural - although the author did try and argue that slavery would easily work with industrial production. - Which I've never believed and isn't exactly supported by attempts at slavery in the industrial period in assorted autocratic powers. You can employ many millions of people as forced labourers/slaves and get a lot of brute work done but industrial production was far more difficult.
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Post by Max Sinister on Jan 31, 2024 13:00:45 GMT
Hard to tell, but one thing is sure: They'd still own a continent full of resources.
Which continent would that be? At least initially it would only really be the old south and then parts of the Caribbean. The territory would be largely agricultural - although the author did try and argue that slavery would easily work with industrial production. - Which I've never believed and isn't exactly supported by attempts at slavery in the industrial period in assorted autocratic powers. You can employ many millions of people as forced labourers/slaves and get a lot of brute work done but industrial production was far more difficult.
I don't know... think about Nazi Germany... there was some sabotage, but considered how outnumbered and resource-poor they were, it did work to a certain extent... so, DoD doesn't seem impossible.
Also, why "the old south and then parts of the Caribbean"? This may apply to other "CSA wins" TLs, but in DoD, only New England, NY and New Jersey secede, so in the rest-*US, the slave states far outnumber the free states.
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