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Post by simon darkshade on May 9, 2023 16:50:30 GMT
You’ve got a host of points in your favour from 6.5 years of good comments and questions, so it isn’t a problem. The answer to the more closed questions is usually in the text, whereas open questions will always need a response.
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Post by lordroel on May 9, 2023 16:59:46 GMT
You’ve got a host of points in your favour from 6.5 years of good comments and questions, so it isn’t a problem. The answer to the more closed questions is usually in the text, whereas open questions will always need a response. Well i only know about the prince because of the movie Cromwell which i think is not 100 % historical correct as it depicts Cornwall. |
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Post by simon darkshade on May 10, 2023 11:46:12 GMT
There are a few other films and television programmes which featured Rupert (including the great By the Sword Divided, which has both series on YouTube), but there was a fair bit more to him than just the ECW, being a naval commander, colonial governor and scientist. Quite the interesting figure.
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Post by lordroel on May 10, 2023 18:18:28 GMT
In the spirit of recent events, a bit on the 1953 Coronation of Queen Elizabeth II: - In March, HMY Britannia is launched amid great ceremony So anything special about here. |
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Post by simon darkshade on May 11, 2023 12:29:14 GMT
She is larger, driven by both luxury and potential use as a hospital ship, faster (32 knots top speed compared to 21.5) and equipped with a very sophisticated combination of communications and protective systems. In terms of dimensions, she is 629ft x 70ft x 20ft compared to 417ft x 55ft x 15ft; those who appreciate parallels will see that the former is very close to the Edinburgh class light cruisers of @.
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Post by lordroel on May 12, 2023 15:52:47 GMT
She is larger, driven by both luxury and potential use as a hospital ship, faster (32 knots top speed compared to 21.5) and equipped with a very sophisticated combination of communications and protective systems. In terms of dimensions, she is 629ft x 70ft x 20ft compared to 417ft x 55ft x 15ft; those who appreciate parallels will see that the former is very close to the Edinburgh class light cruisers of @. So she is a luxury transport ship. |
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Post by simon darkshade on May 12, 2023 16:13:38 GMT
No, she is a royal yacht, just as there is a difference between Buck House and Queen Anne Mansions. It is designed for the personal use of the Royal Family, and thus features elements one might not find on even a luxury transport, such as a helipad, swimming pool, cinema, ballroom, state dining room, garage, library and indoor garden.
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Post by simon darkshade on May 25, 2023 15:14:27 GMT
Whilst working on some other notes, I realised that I hadn't posted up some of the stuff here for a few years, so time to catch up on 1970 and 1971 before 1972 goes up in the Timeline thread:' 1968: alternate-timelines.proboards.com/thread/3409/dark-earth-general-discussion?page=16&scrollTo=1494971969: alternate-timelines.proboards.com/thread/2023/dark-earth-timeline?page=76&scrollTo=163011British Armament Program 1970Tanks: 3142 (421 Chieftains, 248 Royalists, 325 Valiants, 186 Super Conquerors, 1962 Crusaders) IFVs: 3532 (2450 FV-525 Warrior, 1082 FV-432 Saxon) APCs: 4025 (1356 Centaur IMV, 1243 Saladin AMC, 1026 Sentinel LAV, 824 MAV) Artillery: 2456 (84 3.75" Vickers Whirlwind SPAAGs, 178 42mm Marksman SPAAGs, 364 25mm Sharpshooter SPAAGs 428 25pdr GP Guns 600 L24 125mm Light Guns (300 Britain,) 280 L121 6" Gun-Howitzers (100 Britain, 80 Israel, 60 Persia 40 Benelux) 240 FV236 Archbishops, 120 FV254 Lionhearts, 50 FV287 Excalibur, 12 375mm 100 Catapult MRLS) Missiles: 280 (24 Black Arrow MRBM, 24 Blue Streak ICBM; 24 White Knight, 40 Gold Crown, 48 Black Prince, 120 Blue Water) SAMs: 2200 (400 Blue Envoy (240 export), 200 Bloodhound (export); 640 PT.428 Rapier SAMs, 960 EG.324 Sabre SAMs) MANPADs: 2000 2000 Vickers Skyflash ATGMs: 8000 1500 Hawker-Siddeley Javelins, 1500 Fairey Swingfires, 5000 Shorts Green Apples Vehicles: 25,400 (5000 Bedford MK 5t lorry, 2000 Leyland Ranger 5t 6x6 lorry, 2000 Alvis Stalwart 10t 8x8 lorry, 200 Scammell Commander, 10,000 Land Rovers, 1200 Humber Pigs, 5000 Austin Champions) Mortars: 2000 (875 L13 2.5", 528 L16 3.5", 240 L18 3.75" Automatic, 180 L12 4.5", 123 L35 6.5", 54 L52 10") Small Arms (216,748 L1A2 battle rifles, 132,592 L2A4 assault rifles, 94,847 L10 pistols, 87,234 L10A1 submachine guns, 35,269 L4 LMGs, 20,165 L6 GPMGs, 9248 L12 HMGs, 2493 Maxim Guns) Military Aircraft: 2989 Vickers (607) 80 Vickers Thunderbolts 24 Supermarine Excaliburs 24 Supermarine Victorys 60 Supermarine Eagle TSR-2s (42 India, 24 Rhodesia, 24 New Zealand) 240 Supermarine Spitfires 30 Norman Islander 72 Westland Tigers 50 Westland Sea King (55 RN, 25 India) 24 Westland Westminsters de Havilland (597) 320 de Havilland Tornadoes (125 Britain, 60 Benelux, 60 Germany) 50 de Havilland Vanguards 35 de Havilland DH.125 Jet Dragons 24 Handley-Page Hawthorn (Argentina) 54 Handley-Page Vengeances 24 Shorts Valentine (Chile) 18 Shorts Belfast Mark III 72 Percival Lynx Armstrong-Whitworth (536) 20 Armstrong-Whitworth Warspite 60 Armstrong-Whitworth AW.249 AEW 120 Gloster Lions (66 RAF, 30 RCAF) 60 Gloster P.462 Reaper (36 Mexico, 24 Persia) 96 Fairey Rotodynes 52 Fairey Delta II 80 Fairey Swordfish ASW 48 Saunders Roe SR.187 (Germany) Hawker-Siddeley (655) 100 Hawker-Siddeley Phantoms 40 Hawker-Siddeley Merlins 90 H-S Harriers/Sea Harriers (84 India, 48 Italy, 32 Spain) 240 Hawker-Siddeley Hurricanes 24 Hawker Siddeley HS.681 Skyblazers 80 Blackburn Buccaneers (50 UK, 50 India, 50 Germany) 56 Avro Vulcans 29 Avro 780 Andover 16 Avro Vindicators Bristol (594) 64 Bristol Buckinghams 90 Bristol Bulldogs 96 Bristol Strikemaster 200 English Electric Lightnings (50 RAF, 100 India, 50 Denmark) 82 Folland-Miles Wasps 62 Boulton Paul Darings (32 Peru, 30 Venezuela) |
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Post by simon darkshade on May 25, 2023 15:51:09 GMT
British Armament Program 1971
Tanks: 3180
(239 Chieftains, 177 Royalists, 260 Valiants, 120 Super Conquerors, 2384 Crusaders)
IFVs: 3850
(2890 FV-525 Warrior, 960 FV-432 Saxon)
APCs: 4694
(1642 Centaur IMV, 1152 Saladin AMC, 946 Sentinel LAV, 954 MAV)
Artillery: 2569
(94 3.75" Vickers Whirlwind SPAAGs, 156 42mm Marksman SPAAGs, 325 25mm Sharpshooter SPAAGs
432 25pdr GP Guns
720 L24 125mm Light Guns (400 Britain, 220 Commonwealth, 100 Norway)
300 L121 6" Gun-Howitzers (120 Britain, 60 Arabs, 60 Persia, 40 Benelux)
240 FV236 Archbishops, 120 FV254 Lionhearts, 50 FV287 Excalibur, 12 375mm
120 Catapult MRLS)
Missiles: 300
(30 Black Arrow MRBM, 32 Blue Streak ICBM; 30 White Knight, 40 Gold Crown, 48 Black Prince, 120 Blue Water)
SAMs: 2120
(480 Blue Envoy (240 export), 240 Bloodhound (export); 600 PT.428 Rapier SAMs, 800 EG.324 Sabre SAMs)
MANPADs: 2000
2000 Vickers Skyflash
ATGMs: 7000
1800 Hawker-Siddeley Javelins, 1200 Fairey Swingfires, 4000 Shorts Green Apples
Vehicles: 21,650
(4000 Bedford MK 5t lorry, 2000 Leyland Ranger 5t 6x6 lorry, 2000 Alvis Stalwart 10t 8x8 lorry, 150 Scammell Commander, 8,000 Land Rovers, 1500 Humber Pigs, 4000 Austin Champions)
Mortars: 2173
(987 L13 2.5", 644 L16 3.5", 200 L18 3.75" Automatic, 200 L12 4.5", 102 L35 6.5", 40 L52 10")
Small Arms
(204,465 L1A2 battle rifles, 110,126 L2A4 assault rifles, 75,363 L10 pistols, 98,322 L10A1 submachine guns, 27,824 L4 LMGs, 16,297 L6 GPMGs, 6853 L12 HMGs, 2166 Maxim Guns)
Military Aircraft: 3245
Vickers (685)
100 Vickers Thunderbolts (Spain 50)
24 Supermarine Victorys
64 Supermarine Eagle TSR-2s (48 India, 16 USA)
359 Supermarine Spitfires
64 Westland Tigers
50 Westland Sea Kings
24 Westland Westminsters
de Havilland (595)
240 de Havilland Tornadoes (80 Britain, 80 Commonwealth, 40 Benelux, 40 Germany)
120 Supermarine Spitfires
50 de Havilland Vanguards
26 de Havilland DH.125 Jet Dragons
42 Handley-Page Vengeances
20 Shorts Valentine (Chile)
25 Shorts Belfast Mark III
72 Percival Lynx
Armstrong-Whitworth (622)
18 Armstrong-Whitworth Warspite
40 Armstrong-Whitworth AW.249 AEW
120 Hawker-Siddeley Hurricanes
120 Gloster Lions (80 RAF, 40 RCAF)
96 Gloster P.462 Reaper (48 Mexico, 48 Persia)
84 Fairey Rotodynes
36 Fairey Delta II
60 Fairey Swordfish ASW
48 Saunders Roe SR.187 (Germany)
Hawker-Siddeley (725)
36 Hawker-Siddeley Merlins
88 H-S Harriers/Sea Harriers (40 India, 32 Sweden)
439 Hawker-Siddeley Hurricanes
24 Hawker Siddeley HS.681 Skyblazers
60 Blackburn Buccaneers (20 UK, 20 India, 20 Germany)
42 Avro Vulcans
24 Avro 780 Andover
12 Avro Vindicators
Bristol (618)
56 Bristol Buckinghams
80 Bristol Bulldogs
80 Bristol Strikemaster
120 English Electric Lightnings (40 RAF, 40 India, 20 Norway)
120 Hawker-Siddeley Hurricanes
90 Folland-Miles Wasps
72 Boulton Paul Darings (24 Peru, 24 Venezuela, 24 Colombia)
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Post by simon darkshade on May 25, 2023 16:32:25 GMT
What is all this production based upon?
Answer: Goals set in 1964 and 1965 in ANJ and other stories:
MBT: 7680 Regular + 8640 TA (+ 3260 reserve) 19580
AFV: 9600 Regular + 9600 TA (+ 3840 reserve) 23040
APC: 16200 Regular + 18000 TA (+ 4800 reserve) 36000
IMV: 10000 Regular + 10000 TA (+ 4800 reserve) 24800
MAV: 2400 Regular + 1600 TA (+ 2400 reserve) 6400
LAV: 4000 Regular + 2400 TA (+ 2400 reserve) 8800
AMC: 5200 Regular + 4800 TA (+ 2400 reserve) 12400
Regular Army Target Small Arms Stocks (including spares/reserves)
Battle Rifles: 1,500,000
Assault Rifles: 1,000,000
SMGs/Carbines: 500,000
LMGs: 240,000
GPMGs: 120,000
HMGs: 60,000
Maxim AC: 10,000
AGL: 5000
Longbow: 50,000
By 1971/72,
a,) the MBT goals have been fulfilled, allowing surplus sales of older Chieftains and the build up of additional reserves (in turn leading to older stocks of Centurions being downgraded and disposed of and WW2 produced Crusader tanks scrapped or sold off);
b.) FV-432 APC production is tantalisingly close to its goal, with further residual production to be devoted to export;
c.) FV 525 Warrior AFV production is now being devoted to equipped the TA and is going to be reduced during the 1970s to that end;
d.) Centaur IMV (similar to the BTR-70) production has a few years to go to equip the Regulars, but after that, production will go towards export and gradually equipping the TA
e.) The Challenger MAV is into 'spares build up' territory and after 1972 will be, once again, cut right back for export
f.) Sentinel LAV production, like the MAV, is right on the cusp of being tacked back
g.) Saladin Armoured Mobile Carrier (a battle taxi combination of the Saxon and Ratel)...once again, is about to be cut back as the full program is on the verge of completion
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Post by lordroel on May 25, 2023 17:14:20 GMT
British Armament Program 1971Tanks: 3180 (239 Chieftains, 177 Royalists, 260 Valiants, 120 Super Conquerors, 2384 Crusaders) Water) Is the number of tanks that are being decommissioned lower than the numbers being build. |
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Post by simon darkshade on May 25, 2023 17:20:07 GMT
Yes, very much so. Britain, like the other superpowers, has a lot of equipment in reserve.
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Post by lordroel on May 25, 2023 17:35:59 GMT
Yes, very much so. Britain, like the other superpowers, has a lot of equipment in reserve. And of course tanks get damaged and worn out i assume. |
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Post by simon darkshade on May 26, 2023 2:10:57 GMT
Very, very few. Consider the @ Cold War experience of reserve stocks and tank attrition. Damage to a tank usually means putting on a new track, replacing the engine or other such repair; they are fairly resilient vehicles, not throwaway items. As a result, the British Empire’s tank stocks are fairly deep - only in 1972 are they starting to dispose of WW2 era Crusader tanks. The inactive stockpile consists of Super Crusaders and earlier Centurions, then the active stockpile of later Centurions and the 125mm Armed Super Centurions, then the war reserve stocks of quite new Chieftains.
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Post by lordroel on May 26, 2023 6:16:06 GMT
only in 1972 are they starting to dispose of WW2 era Crusader tanks. Scrap ore conversion ore are the countries who could use them |
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