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Post by gillan1220 on Oct 26, 2020 15:21:44 GMT
The death of George Floyd and the riots that followed are butterflied in this timeline but an even chaotic evacuations and panic would have occurred that would have made the civil unrest last May-June look small in comparison. gillan1220 , i made a exception to this TL by not placing it in Politics and Current Affairs as i believe that the TL would diverge from current politics and events as it goes ahead, but if current politics and events are mentioned i have not much choice to place it in Politics and Current Affairs. So can we do out best not to place current politics and events into this TL as i would not want to see this TL moved. My apologies. I was wondering what this would be affect the rest of 2020 considering the POD is on the Spring of this year.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 26, 2020 15:23:17 GMT
gillan1220 , i made a exception to this TL by not placing it in Politics and Current Affairs as i believe that the TL would diverge from current politics and events as it goes ahead, but if current politics and events are mentioned i have not much choice to place it in Politics and Current Affairs. So can we do out best not to place current politics and events into this TL as i would not want to see this TL moved. My apologies. I was wondering what this would be affect the rest of 2020 considering the POD is on the Spring of this year. Think the riots soon will end, other riots will begin not related to current riots.
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Post by gillan1220 on Oct 26, 2020 15:25:57 GMT
My apologies. I was wondering what this would be affect the rest of 2020 considering the POD is on the Spring of this year. Think the riots soon will end, other riots will begin not related to current riots. The timeline is set in April 2020. With the U.S. President and UK Prime Minister dead, there must be panic around the United States and Britain. Even neighboring countries like Canada, Mexico as well as France, Ireland, Spain, Germany, etc. would be on alert as well.
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Post by ukron on Oct 29, 2020 9:14:46 GMT
I'm pretty sure people would lock themselves in their homes and refuse to go out. an interesting point that Kspence may not have seen: in March April 2020, there was a shortage of gloves and masks because of Covid19, such a lack of means of protection would have big repercussions on a viral agent capable of spread only through blood and body fluids. In addition, what would be the states' policy towards Covid? knowing that the latter would make the impression of a nasty flu in appearance of the Crossed Virus.
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Post by ukron on Jan 30, 2021 15:18:21 GMT
I can't wait the next post @kspence.
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Post by kspence92 on Mar 12, 2021 8:41:30 GMT
London was a warzone. Nobody knew how many had died but the number was racking up by the second. Much of Central London was a bloodbath and there were flare ups of violence across various parts of both North and South London. Despite pleas from the government to remain at home behind locked doors, Londers were fleeing by the thousands. Or trying to at any rate, but with all the airport's and train stations closed and abandoned, the only way out of the city was by car or on foot.
Priti Patel was now the third female Prime Minister in British history. And oh how history would remember her. She had been hurriedly airlifted out of London by the SAS six hours earlier along with the rest of the cabinet and their immediate families. They had relocated to a Top Secret bunker on the outskirts of Oxford where they were attempting to coordinate the various departments of government. The near total loss of the Civil Service in London made coordinating the various government departments a logistical nightmare. The outbreaks across Whitehall had seen virtually every government building ransacked with the exception of 10 Downing Street, which was now under siege by thousands of Crossed and close to being overrun. All VIPs had since been evacuated from Downing Street through tunnels beneath the building. Only determined police officers had remained behind to hold the area.
"How is he?" She asked as she read the morning paper with a headline that screamed "LONDON HAS FALLEN".
"He's still in an induced coma, but stable for now. Bloody idiot." The aide replied .
"That's good to hear. Boris might be a bit daft at times but he didn't deserve this." The new Prime Minister replied. "Is the video link ready ?"
"Yes ma'am."
On the screen the heads of the armed forces appeared. They were still in London, secure in the bunker under the Ministry of Defence building.
"Good morning ma'am. I hope you had a good sleep?" The Chief of the General Staff tried to make small talk.
"Half an hour if you're lucky. I'm running on coffee right now. Right, so where are we at with pushing this bloody mess back?" Priti asked as she pushed her newspaper to the side.
"Well we're not pushing anything back just yet ma'am. The Army , or at least our units in and around London are in disarray. The police are in even worse shape. I don't even want to think about how many are dead. We're still holding on to our safe zones in Tower Hamlets, Enfield and Wimbledon as well as Downing Street itself but other than that almost all of London is going through the meat grinder. We lost Buckingham Palace this morning. They held off the first two waves but when one of our own units went over and turned their guns on them it was all over. Thank God we got the Queen out when we did."
"How many Crossed are we facing in London, and more importantly how many are heading north?" Priti Patel asked.
"We're estimating over half a million crossed are in the Greater London area now. The number just swelled and swelled throughout the night last night. Probably more than two million uninfected dead or dying. Satellites show crowds attempting to move up the M11 towards Cambridge. We have troops from Colchester already manning blockades a few miles south of the outskirts of Cambridge. They're screening refugees from London for the infection." The General replied.
"Turn them around." Priti said urgently. "Do not let the refugees through. Send them back to their homes."
"Ma'am?" The general asked incredulously.
"We cannot take the risk that some of them may be the clever type. That's how we lost London. That's how Boris lost London. I won't let that happen to Cambridge or any other city in our country. Anyone leaving London is a potential threat. Turn them back and if they refuse then open fire. I will accept all consequences as solely my own." She said before taking a breath and lowering her head as though not wanting to ask her next question "Now, what is the status of our chemical weapons?"
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Post by lordroel on Mar 12, 2021 9:02:28 GMT
"We cannot take the risk that some of them may be the clever type. That's how we lost London. That's how Boris lost London. I won't let that happen to Cambridge or any other city in our country. Anyone leaving London is a potential threat. Turn them back and if they refuse then open fire. I will accept all consequences as solely my own." She said before taking a breath and lowering her head as though not wanting to ask her next question "Now, what is the status of our chemical weapons?" Is it not already to late.
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Post by gillan1220 on Mar 12, 2021 9:30:16 GMT
Priti is being smart here. Chemical weapons would be more effective in killing the Crossed than bullets.
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Post by stevep on Mar 12, 2021 12:23:40 GMT
"We cannot take the risk that some of them may be the clever type. That's how we lost London. That's how Boris lost London. I won't let that happen to Cambridge or any other city in our country. Anyone leaving London is a potential threat. Turn them back and if they refuse then open fire. I will accept all consequences as solely my own." She said before taking a breath and lowering her head as though not wanting to ask her next question "Now, what is the status of our chemical weapons?" Is it not already to late.
Probably by this stage, especially with the infections overseas. However its something that's got to be done although its going to be a very grim job and I can see a lot of people in the army and police being very reluctant in turning back apparently uninfected people, especially women and children. - Just had this nasty thought of someone begging for their young children to be allowed through and then it turns out their infected! However not sure I should give kspence92, any more nasty ideas. Although apart from anything else an intelligent infected just need to take back-roads to get further north and start a new outbreak beyond any cordon. Or if they have access to a light a/c or possibly even a boat to go around it in another way. Plus Britain doesn't have enough armed and trained personal to really form a defensive line without too many open points through it, let alone possible ammo problems.
While Porton Down as far as I'm aware continues to do research on defences against chemical weapons I'm pretty certain we don't have any actual weapons ourselves. Or at least we have signed a fair number of treaties to that effect. Checking wiki there is a small production capacity as it says "In 2013 Dstl scientists tested samples from Syria for sarin, which is still manufactured there, to test soldiers' equipment.[1] " but I doubt there is much capacity for mass production while there would also be the issue of delivery.
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Post by ukron on Apr 2, 2021 9:04:29 GMT
Great to read you again, at this point I guess France and USA should have the finger on the nuclear trigger.
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Post by stevep on Apr 2, 2021 16:10:17 GMT
Great to read you again, at this point I guess France and USA should have the finger on the nuclear trigger.
Its a possibility but since its already known to have spread to was it Washington or New York, is the US ready to nuke one of its own cities?
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Post by gillan1220 on Apr 2, 2021 16:24:30 GMT
Great to read you again, at this point I guess France and USA should have the finger on the nuclear trigger.
Its a possibility but since its already known to have spread to was it Washington or New York, is the US ready to nuke one of its own cities?
Washington, D.C. and Arlington, VA in this timeline. It would be a matter of time before it starts spreading to the rest of the DMV. In the previous Crossed timeline written by the author, the Crossed outbreak began in Massachusetts and then spread to New England and New York. So the U.S. Armed Forces had to use nukes, MOABs, sarin gas, and biological weapons just to get rid of it. The region became known as the New England Wasteland.
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Post by SpaceOrbisHistory on Jul 19, 2021 9:05:03 GMT
"Mr President it's time to go!" The Secret Service agent practically yelled at Trump who sat on his chair in the Oval Office with his arms folded. "Come on guys, we are safe enough here. You see those snipers in the roof? They're the best snipers, believe me." The President replied. "Sir, I have to insist that we leave immediately. They're surrounding the perimeter. We can't hold them off any longer !" The young agent pleaded with the most powerful man in the world. "You know what CNN will say right ? 'oh look Trump run away!'. No, I am staying right here and that's...." Before the President could finish his protest another two agents burst into the Oval Office and grabbed him by the arms. "We have Mogul on the move. Be ready." "Get your goddamn hands off me." Trump protested angrily as the Secret Service physically dragged the President from the Oval Office and out to the South Lawn where Marine One - the Presidential helicopter - was landing. "Sorry sir. We need to keep you safe at any cost." "This is bullshit." Trump muttered as he watched the helicopter come in to land. Beyond the fence he could see them. He could hear them. Screaming. Laughing. Thousands of people had surrounded the steel fence that protected the White House. Secret Service snipers on the roof had already killed over two hundred people but thousands more had joined in the raucous crowd. In that number there were infected members of the DC Police who were exchanging gunfire with the Secret Service. One of the guards on the White House roof was shot in the shoulder. As he fell back, his finger accidentally squeezed the trigger, showering the chopper with bullets. The rotor was damaged and the helicopter sent spinning wildly out of control, plunging towards the ground. The president's security detail pushed him to the ground and shielded him with their bodies. It made no difference. The President was dead. ..... On board Marine Two - 9 minutes later. "I Michael Richard Pence do solomly swear, that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God." All 9 Supreme Court justices were either dead or missing. It had been left to the DC Appelate Judge to administer the Oath of Office over a video call to the Vice Presidents phone from her besieged office. Marine Two then changed its call sign to Marine One and within a few minutes would be landing at Mount Weather in Virginia where what few senior officials from the administration had been able to get airlifted out of DC in time were now landing too. ... By this point, the Crossed had rampaged right across Washington DC, quickly overrunning the Supreme Court. After a brief battle with the Capitol Police, they quickly stormed the Capitol building. Congress had been meeting to try and sort out a new stimulus package to help the economy which had been left in near ruins by the Coronavirus outbreak. Dozens of Congressmen and women would be killed or infected among the most prominent lost being Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate leader Chuck Schumer. The DC National Guard had been given very little warning, and were "caught with their pants down" as they were mobilizing and were quickly swarmed. Hundreds of troops were turned and battles broke out between infected and non-infected national guardsmen. Across DC, hundreds of thousands of people who had already been under Shelter-in-Place orders since late March quickly ignored those orders and made a run for their cars , clogging up the streets that had been quiet for weeks as this newer, much more terrifying virus threatened their city. The city was a bloodbath as terrified residents tried to evacuate in all directions and the Crossed followed them, spreading the virus further and further in only a few hours. By nightfall, the first crossed were wandering into the southern suburbs of Baltimore looking for a good time. It seems even in this messed up world's timeline the Capitol Police are being overrun by people who have lost their minds. But at least here you could make a case that something was making them act this way. I can't help but feel sorry that congress was attacked and killed. It makes this whole matter so much worse. Trump is dead and now the Crossed have hit congress and killed dozens of our people. I know that in such stories dying is a given but still to think it has gotten so bad really does make me think it's already too late to save the nations already hit by this thing. I'm going to guess by the time I get to the most up-to-date chapter the US has been nuked or something. That does seem to be the norm after a while. The big guns start getting used to try to save what remains. I do hope that we can somehow stop it from getting that bad but it seems we may not have much of a choice. It's already fairly bad already.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 19, 2021 13:09:59 GMT
"Mr President it's time to go!" The Secret Service agent practically yelled at Trump who sat on his chair in the Oval Office with his arms folded. "Come on guys, we are safe enough here. You see those snipers in the roof? They're the best snipers, believe me." The President replied. "Sir, I have to insist that we leave immediately. They're surrounding the perimeter. We can't hold them off any longer !" The young agent pleaded with the most powerful man in the world. "You know what CNN will say right ? 'oh look Trump run away!'. No, I am staying right here and that's...." Before the President could finish his protest another two agents burst into the Oval Office and grabbed him by the arms. "We have Mogul on the move. Be ready." "Get your goddamn hands off me." Trump protested angrily as the Secret Service physically dragged the President from the Oval Office and out to the South Lawn where Marine One - the Presidential helicopter - was landing. "Sorry sir. We need to keep you safe at any cost." "This is bullshit." Trump muttered as he watched the helicopter come in to land. Beyond the fence he could see them. He could hear them. Screaming. Laughing. Thousands of people had surrounded the steel fence that protected the White House. Secret Service snipers on the roof had already killed over two hundred people but thousands more had joined in the raucous crowd. In that number there were infected members of the DC Police who were exchanging gunfire with the Secret Service. One of the guards on the White House roof was shot in the shoulder. As he fell back, his finger accidentally squeezed the trigger, showering the chopper with bullets. The rotor was damaged and the helicopter sent spinning wildly out of control, plunging towards the ground. The president's security detail pushed him to the ground and shielded him with their bodies. It made no difference. The President was dead. ..... On board Marine Two - 9 minutes later. "I Michael Richard Pence do solomly swear, that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God." All 9 Supreme Court justices were either dead or missing. It had been left to the DC Appelate Judge to administer the Oath of Office over a video call to the Vice Presidents phone from her besieged office. Marine Two then changed its call sign to Marine One and within a few minutes would be landing at Mount Weather in Virginia where what few senior officials from the administration had been able to get airlifted out of DC in time were now landing too. ... By this point, the Crossed had rampaged right across Washington DC, quickly overrunning the Supreme Court. After a brief battle with the Capitol Police, they quickly stormed the Capitol building. Congress had been meeting to try and sort out a new stimulus package to help the economy which had been left in near ruins by the Coronavirus outbreak. Dozens of Congressmen and women would be killed or infected among the most prominent lost being Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate leader Chuck Schumer. The DC National Guard had been given very little warning, and were "caught with their pants down" as they were mobilizing and were quickly swarmed. Hundreds of troops were turned and battles broke out between infected and non-infected national guardsmen. Across DC, hundreds of thousands of people who had already been under Shelter-in-Place orders since late March quickly ignored those orders and made a run for their cars , clogging up the streets that had been quiet for weeks as this newer, much more terrifying virus threatened their city. The city was a bloodbath as terrified residents tried to evacuate in all directions and the Crossed followed them, spreading the virus further and further in only a few hours. By nightfall, the first crossed were wandering into the southern suburbs of Baltimore looking for a good time. It seems even in this messed up world's timeline the Capitol Police are being overrun by people who have lost their minds. But at least here you could make a case that something was making them act this way. I can't help but feel sorry that congress was attacked and killed. It makes this whole matter so much worse. Trump is dead and now the Crossed have hit congress and killed dozens of our people. I know that in such stories dying is a given but still to think it has gotten so bad really does make me think it's already too late to save the nations already hit by this thing. I'm going to guess by the time I get to the most up-to-date chapter the US has been nuked or something. That does seem to be the norm after a while. The big guns start getting used to try to save what remains. I do hope that we can somehow stop it from getting that bad but it seems we may not have much of a choice. It's already fairly bad already. kspence92's previous Crossed timeline also has the monsters storming the Capitol and the White House. In 2017 and early 2020, this seemed to far-fetched. Come January 6, 2021, both stories have become harsher in hindsight.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 19, 2021 13:36:37 GMT
As Steve said, Britain hasn’t built any offensive chemical weapons since 1956.
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