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Post by baloo on May 13, 2017 18:32:25 GMT
Added a bit more:
On 4 July, 2000, radical Muslim terrorists hijacked a number of US commercial flights and crashed the planes into Times Square, the White house, and the Capitol building. One plane attempting to hit the Sears Tower was shot down by the Air Force. When the White House was hit, the President and the First Lady were both killed. As most of the hijackers were Saudi citizens, the new President Bradley calls for the surrender of Saudi Arabia to US forces. This is refused, and Bradley orders the invasion and occupation of Saudi Arabia. Resistance if fierce, but soon dissipates.
The Saudi King surrenders, and arrests a number of members of the Royal Family who have been named as conspirators in the attack by US intelligence.
Trials are held. During all this, a tumultuous Republican convention in Indianapolis nominates Phil Gramm for President and Bob Dornan for VP. The Democrats unanimously renominate Bradley, and he selects Paul Wellstone of Minnesota for VP. Phil Gramm wins the election narrowly, with only more electoral votes than Bradley. While Americans are distracted by their own election, a revolutionary cabal headed by Osama bin Laden overthrows the Saudi government and installs Prince Ahmed bin Abdulaziz al-Saud as head of state and
Constitutional Monarch. The new king calls for US forces to leave Arabia immediately. Bradely assents to this, and it is blamed for his loss in November.
[I'm surprised Moynihan doesn't show up as President in more of these timelines. He might will have been a good one].
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Post by lordroel on May 13, 2017 19:13:58 GMT
[I'm surprised Moynihan doesn't show up as President in more of these timelines. He might will have been a good one]. Wait so because a king wants US troops out of his country, the president losses the elections. |
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Post by baloo on May 14, 2017 12:55:34 GMT
Not because the King wants them out, but because Bradley takes them out, seeming to allow the King to dictate US policy.
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Post by baloo on May 14, 2017 12:56:49 GMT
And his loss is attributed to this at least in part. But that's just some people's opinion.
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Post by lordroel on May 14, 2017 12:57:30 GMT
And his loss is attributed to this at least in part. But that's just some people's opinion. From his party ore the media in this universe. |
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Post by baloo on May 14, 2017 13:46:58 GMT
Some of both, I'd imagine. I've added and changed a bit to reflect what we just discussed:
Trials are held. During all this, a tumultuous Republican convention in Indianapolis nominates Phil Gramm for President and Bob Dornan for VP. The Democrats unanimously renominate Bradley, and he selects Paul Wellstone of Minnesota for VP. Phil Gramm wins the election narrowly, with only 3 more electoral votes than Bradley. While Americans are distracted by their own election, a revolutionary cabal headed by Osama bin Laden overthrows the Saudi government and installs Prince Ahmed bin Abdulaziz al-Saud as head of state and Constitutional Monarch. The new king calls for US forces to leave Arabia immediately. Bradely assents to this, and he is widely perceived to have caved in to King Ahmed's demands. The Republican ticket, especially Dornan, makes this into a major campaign issue, and pundits and historians attribute Bradley's loss to this controversy.
Despite all the anti-Saudi rhetoric, the new Gramm administration doesn't modify our Arabia policy in any meaningful way. In a speech given at the University of illinois in February, 2001, the new Secretary of State, Paul Findley, accuses Shah Reza Pahlavi of Iran of having backed the bin Laden coup in Arabia, and hints at American support for neo-Zoroastrian rebels in Iran. The speech energizes the rebel movement and the Israeli government and the ADL criticizes Findley for "pouring fuel on the fire" and encouraging anti-Zionists and anti-Semites around the world.
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Post by lordroel on May 14, 2017 13:50:39 GMT
Some of both, I'd imagine. I've added and changed a bit to reflect what we just discussed: Trials are held. During all this, a tumultuous Republican convention in Indianapolis nominates Phil Gramm for President and Bob Dornan for VP. The Democrats unanimously renominate Bradley, and he selects Paul Wellstone of Minnesota for VP. Phil Gramm wins the election narrowly, with only 3 more electoral votes than Bradley. While Americans are distracted by their own election, a revolutionary cabal headed by Osama bin Laden overthrows the Saudi government and installs Prince Ahmed bin Abdulaziz al-Saud as head of state and Constitutional Monarch. The new king calls for US forces to leave Arabia immediately. Bradely assents to this, and he is widely perceived to have caved in to King Ahmed's demands. The Republican ticket, especially Dornan, makes this into a major campaign issue, and pundits and historians attribute Bradley's loss to this controversy. Despite all the anti-Saudi rhetoric, the new Gramm administration doesn't modify our Arabia policy in any meaningful way. In a speech given at the University of illinois in February, 2001, the new Secretary of State, Paul Findley, accuses Shah Reza Pahlavi of Iran of having backed the bin Laden coup in Arabia, and hints at American support for neo-Zoroastrian rebels in Iran. The speech energizes the rebel movement and the Israeli government and the ADL criticizes Findley for "pouring fuel on the fire" and encouraging anti-Zionists and anti-Semites around the world. So is Iran a pro-US ally in this universe. |
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Post by baloo on May 14, 2017 14:14:46 GMT
More or less. I figure the Shah isn't overthrown, and his son takes over when he dies. Findley's speech does destabilize the alliance, though, and many Americans are inclined to favor the neo-Z rebels.
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Post by lordroel on May 14, 2017 14:16:36 GMT
More or less. I figure the Shah isn't overthrown, and his son takes over when he dies. Findley's speech does destabilize the alliance, though, and many Americans are inclined to favor the neo-Z rebels. So no Iranian Revolution here, but instead a country who by 2017 in your timeline would posses the A-bomb already. |
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