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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 6:03:28 GMT
Perhaps, if they phrase it as the only way to guarantee continual aid to Iraq. I don't know enough about Soviet oil policy to judge. In the 1950s oil was not yet a major priority as it is now. The Soviet Union and its economy weren't on the verge of collapse yet back in the 1950s, though. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 6:52:23 GMT
Also, for the record, the assumption here is that the Iraqi Communists will get overthrown sooner or later if the Soviet Union will completely stop supporting them. Indeed, that is what happened with Najibullah's regime in Afghanistan in 1992 in real life.
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 23, 2016 12:54:05 GMT
Also, for the record, the assumption here is that the Iraqi Communists will get overthrown sooner or later if the Soviet Union will completely stop supporting them. Indeed, that is what happened with Najibullah's regime in Afghanistan in 1992 in real life. Then I foresee Iraq becoming a mess in the nineties. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 13:31:22 GMT
Also, for the record, the assumption here is that the Iraqi Communists will get overthrown sooner or later if the Soviet Union will completely stop supporting them. Indeed, that is what happened with Najibullah's regime in Afghanistan in 1992 in real life. Iraq can always turn to that other major communist country for aid. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 23, 2016 16:02:23 GMT
Also, for the record, the assumption here is that the Iraqi Communists will get overthrown sooner or later if the Soviet Union will completely stop supporting them. Indeed, that is what happened with Najibullah's regime in Afghanistan in 1992 in real life. Iraq can always turn to that other major communist country for aid. True, but would China want to risk antagonizing the US that much? |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 16:42:28 GMT
Also, for the record, the assumption here is that the Iraqi Communists will get overthrown sooner or later if the Soviet Union will completely stop supporting them. Indeed, that is what happened with Najibullah's regime in Afghanistan in 1992 in real life. Then I foresee Iraq becoming a mess in the nineties. Do you actually agree with this assumption of mine, though? |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 16:43:14 GMT
Iraq can always turn to that other major communist country for aid. True, but would China want to risk antagonizing the US that much? In exchange having China get a lot of Iraqi oil? Maybe ... maybe. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 16:44:44 GMT
Then I foresee Iraq becoming a mess in the nineties. Do you actually agree with this assumption of mine, though? It could also become a democratic country, that is unless it peaceful other wise we might see a Iraq Civil War brake out after Iraq loses it support of the Soviet Union who has disbanded. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 16:58:23 GMT
Do you actually agree with this assumption of mine, though? It could also become a democratic country, that is unless it peaceful other wise we might see a Iraq Civil War brake out after Iraq loses it support of the Soviet Union who has disbanded. Here's an interesting question--do the Iraqi Communists divide Iraq into Arab and a Kurdish SSRs with a nominal right of secession? After all, that is what Communists previously did in both the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. Indeed, any thoughts on this? |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 17:01:11 GMT
It could also become a democratic country, that is unless it peaceful other wise we might see a Iraq Civil War brake out after Iraq loses it support of the Soviet Union who has disbanded. Here's an interesting question--do the Iraqi Communists divide Iraq into Arab and a Kurdish SSRs with a nominal right of secession? After all, that is what Communists previously did in both the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. Indeed, any thoughts on this? I would think the Communist Iraq will try to destroy the Kurds identity and culture than dividing Iraq into Arab and a Kurdish SSRs. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 17:03:58 GMT
Here's an interesting question--do the Iraqi Communists divide Iraq into Arab and a Kurdish SSRs with a nominal right of secession? After all, that is what Communists previously did in both the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. Indeed, any thoughts on this? I would think the Communist Iraq will try to destroy the Kurds identity and culture than dividing Iraq into Arab and a Kurdish SSRs. That's certainly not in the spirit of what other Communists have done, though. Indeed, other Communists tried to appease nationalists rather than to try destroying national communities and identities. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 17:05:26 GMT
I would think the Communist Iraq will try to destroy the Kurds identity and culture than dividing Iraq into Arab and a Kurdish SSRs. That's certainly not in the spirit of what other Communists have done, though. Indeed, other Communists tried to appease nationalists rather than to try destroying national communities and identities. Saddam Hussein tried to do it, so why not a Communist Iraq. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 17:07:47 GMT
That's certainly not in the spirit of what other Communists have done, though. Indeed, other Communists tried to appease nationalists rather than to try destroying national communities and identities. Saddam Hussein tried to do it, so why not a Communist Iraq. I mean, it's certainly possible. However, I don't know just how likely it actually is. Indeed, perhaps the Stalin model of simultaneous appeals to nationalists along with large-scale deportations of various ethnic groups would have been more appealing to the Iraqi Communists in this scenario. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 17:09:55 GMT
Saddam Hussein tried to do it, so why not a Communist Iraq. I mean, it's certainly possible. However, I don't know just how likely it actually is. Indeed, perhaps the Stalin model of simultaneous appeals to nationalists along with large-scale deportations of various ethnic groups would have been more appealing to the Iraqi Communists in this scenario. Iran would support the Kurd's while Turkey as always will fight the Kurd's, nice mix up already. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 17:11:23 GMT
I mean, it's certainly possible. However, I don't know just how likely it actually is. Indeed, perhaps the Stalin model of simultaneous appeals to nationalists along with large-scale deportations of various ethnic groups would have been more appealing to the Iraqi Communists in this scenario. Iran would support the Kurd's while Turkey as always will fight the Kurd's, nice mix up already. What about Syria, though? |
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