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Post by futurist on Jun 19, 2016 2:26:29 GMT
What if Adolf Hitler would have gotten killed in 1923?
Indeed, any thoughts on this?
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 19, 2016 4:54:19 GMT
My understanding is likely that the Weimar Republic continues to putter along, but still have problems with extremism on both left and right wings.
If it gets bad enough it might devolve into something like the Spanish Civil War.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 19, 2016 7:17:52 GMT
My understanding is likely that the Weimar Republic continues to putter along, but still have problems with extremism on both left and right wings. If it gets bad enough it might devolve into something like the Spanish Civil War. You mean between the government and communist.
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 19, 2016 18:13:17 GMT
My understanding is likely that the Weimar Republic continues to putter along, but still have problems with extremism on both left and right wings. If it gets bad enough it might devolve into something like the Spanish Civil War. You mean between the government and communist. Potentially. If the government collapses you could see groups like the DNVP taking their place, and the whole thing becoming a proxy war between the Soviet Union and the West.
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Post by futurist on Jun 20, 2016 2:44:10 GMT
You mean between the government and communist. Potentially. If the government collapses you could see groups like the DNVP taking their place, and the whole thing becoming a proxy war between the Soviet Union and the West. Who is likely to win such a proxy war in Germany, though?
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 21, 2016 13:20:28 GMT
Potentially. If the government collapses you could see groups like the DNVP taking their place, and the whole thing becoming a proxy war between the Soviet Union and the West. Who is likely to win such a proxy war in Germany, though? I would wager the West, who would likely tolerate an authoritarian, if not Nazi, Germany.
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 0:56:44 GMT
Who is likely to win such a proxy war in Germany, though? I would wager the West, who would likely tolerate an authoritarian, if not Nazi, Germany. OK. Also, though, would the West tolerate an authoritarian Germany which has revanchist tendencies in regards to Danzig and the Polish Corridor?
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 23, 2016 2:05:30 GMT
I would wager the West, who would likely tolerate an authoritarian, if not Nazi, Germany. OK. Also, though, would the West tolerate an authoritarian Germany which has revanchist tendencies in regards to Danzig and the Polish Corridor? So long as they stick to those and use them to defend against Communism, I think it's possible.
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 6:01:50 GMT
OK. Also, though, would the West tolerate an authoritarian Germany which has revanchist tendencies in regards to Danzig and the Polish Corridor? So long as they stick to those and use them to defend against Communism, I think it's possible. OK.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 25, 2016 10:56:47 GMT
OK. Also, though, would the West tolerate an authoritarian Germany which has revanchist tendencies in regards to Danzig and the Polish Corridor? So long as they stick to those and use them to defend against Communism, I think it's possible. A strong democratic Germany with out Hitler is the best thing Europe can have to prevent the Soviet Union from doing any thing crazy.
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Post by Roderick3D on Jun 25, 2016 20:52:30 GMT
The Nationalism will stay having their power in the Weimar Republic, but a coup will not happen, maybe the Weimar Republic can make the same that France in 1939, ban the National Socialist German Workers' Party (France ban the French Communist Party).
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Post by lordroel on Jun 25, 2016 20:56:01 GMT
The Nationalism will stay having their power in the Weimar Republic, but a coup will not happen, maybe the Weimar Republic can make the same that France in 1939, ban the National Socialist German Workers' Party (France ban the French Communist Party). Without Hitler there will be no major rise of the NSDAP unless somebody fill the void of Hitler.
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 26, 2016 16:27:52 GMT
The Nationalism will stay having their power in the Weimar Republic, but a coup will not happen, maybe the Weimar Republic can make the same that France in 1939, ban the National Socialist German Workers' Party (France ban the French Communist Party). Without Hitler there will be no major rise of the NSDAP unless somebody fill the void of Hitler. If there is no NSDAP, it's more likely that a dictator would spring from the DNVP (old-style conservatives), and maybe a restoration of the monarchy.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2016 16:42:16 GMT
Without Hitler there will be no major rise of the NSDAP unless somebody fill the void of Hitler. If there is no NSDAP, it's more likely that a dictator would spring from the DNVP (old-style conservatives), and maybe a restoration of the monarchy. Well there might be some Germans who could have done that had Hitler not done it before them.
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 26, 2016 16:46:23 GMT
If there is no NSDAP, it's more likely that a dictator would spring from the DNVP (old-style conservatives), and maybe a restoration of the monarchy. Well there might be some Germans who could have done that had Hitler not done it before them. Far from impossible.
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