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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 16:47:57 GMT
Yep.  It is a good name for a boy, so lets name him Maximilian. OK. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 16:52:14 GMT
It is a good name for a boy, so lets name him Maximilian. OK. So our young prince Maximilian will be only 6 years when his father dies, that makes him a very young crown prince and place a lot of responsibility on him at such a young age. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 18:07:20 GMT
OK. So our young prince Maximilian will be only 6 years when his father dies, that makes him a very young crown prince and place a lot of responsibility on him at such a young age. Yes, but at least his grandfather is still going to be alive and kicking for another 25+ years. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 18:09:49 GMT
So our young prince Maximilian will be only 6 years when his father dies, that makes him a very young crown prince and place a lot of responsibility on him at such a young age. Yes, but at least his grandfather is still going to be alive and kicking for another 25+ years. So he will be 31 years old when he becomes kaiser, is he married you think at that time. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 18:13:46 GMT
Yes, but at least his grandfather is still going to be alive and kicking for another 25+ years. So he will be 31 years old when he becomes kaiser, is he married you think at that time. 31+. After all, depending on the butterfly effect, chances are that Franz Joseph dies sometime between 1914 and 1920 in this scenario. Also, Yes, I think that he will already be married at age 31. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 18:14:46 GMT
So he will be 31 years old when he becomes kaiser, is he married you think at that time. 31+. After all, depending on the butterfly effect, chances are that Franz Joseph dies sometime between 1914 and 1920 in this scenario. Also, Yes, I think that he will already be married at age 31. Most likely it will be a German princes. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 18:16:18 GMT
31+. After all, depending on the butterfly effect, chances are that Franz Joseph dies sometime between 1914 and 1920 in this scenario. Also, Yes, I think that he will already be married at age 31. Most likely it will be a German princes. Maybe. After all, neither Franz Ferdinand nor Kaiser Karl married German princesses in real life. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 24, 2016 2:18:01 GMT
Most likely it will be a German princes. Maybe. After all, neither Franz Ferdinand nor Kaiser Karl married German princesses in real life. We can hand wave Sarajevo away as this could or could not happen with our prince. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 2, 2016 7:48:09 GMT
Maybe. After all, neither Franz Ferdinand nor Kaiser Karl married German princesses in real life. We can hand wave Sarajevo away as this could or could not happen with our prince. Sarajevo probably doesn't happen in this scenario due to the butterfly effect. However, some other Austro-Hungarian official might get killed by Serbian nationalists sooner or later in this scenario.  |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 2, 2016 15:00:24 GMT
We can hand wave Sarajevo away as this could or could not happen with our prince. Sarajevo probably doesn't happen in this scenario due to the butterfly effect. However, some other Austro-Hungarian official might get killed by Serbian nationalists sooner or later in this scenario. But if it is not the crown prince, would Austria still go to war about a person death not related to the Kaiser. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 2, 2016 21:43:45 GMT
Sarajevo probably doesn't happen in this scenario due to the butterfly effect. However, some other Austro-Hungarian official might get killed by Serbian nationalists sooner or later in this scenario. But if it is not the crown prince, would Austria still go to war about a person death not related to the Kaiser. Very possibly Yes. After all, Austria-Hungary disliked Serbian irredentism and appears to have merely used Franz Ferdinand's assassination as an excuse to invade Serbia. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 3, 2016 8:23:35 GMT
But if it is not the crown prince, would Austria still go to war about a person death not related to the Kaiser. Very possibly Yes. After all, Austria-Hungary disliked Serbian irredentism and appears to have merely used Franz Ferdinand's assassination as an excuse to invade Serbia. Maybe the Black Hands kills the Governor of Bosnia, Oskar Potiorek as intended. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 3, 2016 19:46:00 GMT
Very possibly Yes. After all, Austria-Hungary disliked Serbian irredentism and appears to have merely used Franz Ferdinand's assassination as an excuse to invade Serbia. Maybe the Black Hands kills the Governor of Bosnia, Oskar Potiorek as intended. Yep. |
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Post by empresspenguine on Jul 4, 2016 0:49:22 GMT
It could happen but then again he could also be close to his grandfather. I think that being close to his grandfather is more likely than being close to his grandmother. Indeed, his grandfather is going to need to teach him how to rule Austria-Hungary in this scenario! Also, though, what exactly would this son of Rudolf's have been called (as in, his name)? Any ideas? The Emperor would take an active interest in the boy from the beginning. The boy would be the future Emperor and it would be the Emperor's duty to see to the child's upbringing. Franz Joseph was a creature of duty and would attend to this one above all others. Nothing would be more important to him Franz Joseph had troubled relations with both Rudolph and Franz Ferdinand but may have had a better one with his grandson- or Max as we've been calling him. It is hard to see a worse one than Franz Joseph had with his nephew Impossible to say what political views the boy would have had. He would be 30 in 1914 and should have had a lot of say in the affairs of the Empire |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 4, 2016 3:42:41 GMT
I think that being close to his grandfather is more likely than being close to his grandmother. Indeed, his grandfather is going to need to teach him how to rule Austria-Hungary in this scenario! Also, though, what exactly would this son of Rudolf's have been called (as in, his name)? Any ideas? The Emperor would take an active interest in the boy from the beginning. The boy would be the future Emperor and it would be the Emperor's duty to see to the child's upbringing. Franz Joseph was a creature of duty and would attend to this one above all others. Nothing would be more important to him Franz Joseph had troubled relations with both Rudolph and Franz Ferdinand but may have had a better one with his grandson- or Max as we've been calling him. It is hard to see a worse one than Franz Joseph had with his nephew Impossible to say what political views the boy would have had. He would be 30 in 1914 and should have had a lot of say in the affairs of the Empire If he is brought up by his grand father he will most likely follow the policy of him in governing the empire. |
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