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Post by lordroel on Dec 18, 2017 20:25:14 GMT
Thanks for that link! There are some items there that are interesting. Yes, found many information in it that helped me create all these articles related to his book. Working on Japanese submarines of the Great Pacific War at this moment but it is a lot harder to put that list together than the previous i made.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 26, 2019 17:51:25 GMT
Auxiliary cruisers of the United States Navy of the Great Pacific War
During the war these four auxiliary cruisers patrolled the area between the Canary islands and the coast of Norway.
USS George Washington, sunk by the Japanese armed merchant ships Nagasaki Maru and Shanghai Maru during the Battle of Cape St. Vincent on April 15th 1932.
USS Mount Vernon, suffered severe damage during the Battle of Cape St. Vincent on April 15th 1932 and was taken as a prize of war by the Japanese after it surrender to them.
USS President Madison
USS President Pierce
USS Leviathan, served as a transmitting station for the four auxiliary cruisers and was station in the neighborhood of Brest, France.
USS President Cleveland
USS President Jefferson
USS President Taft
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Post by lordroel on Dec 25, 2019 11:58:59 GMT
Japanese Imperial Navy submarines of the Great Pacific War
Notes to take in consideration
Note: The list of Japanese submarines is not yet complete, work in progress.
Note: The Japanese Imperial Navy lost numerous submarines during the war, those mention here are the only once who are mentioned by name in the book.
Note: By the end of the war a total of 126 submarines where in service with the Japanese Imperial Navy.
Note: More than twenty-five to thirty additional submarines where still under construction at the time of the signing of the Peace Treaty of Shanghai on May 15th 1933.
Note: Japanese submarines fall in three classes, medium boats of 700 to 1,100 tons with a radius of some 7,000 to 9,000 miles, large boats of from 1,500 to 2,500 tons with a radius equal to the medium boats and the six Nagasaki-class submarine cruiser who are not mention in the list due them being a separate class of submarine.
Junsen type submarine
Junsen I (I-1 class)
I-1 I-2 I-3 I-4
I-12-class submarine
I-21 I-22 I-23 I-24 I-25 I-26
Kaidai type submarine
Kaidai I (I-51 class)
I-51
Kaidai II (I-52 class)
I-52
Kaidai IIIa/b (I-53 class and I-56 class)
I-53, interred by Chili on August 19th 1931 after she was damaged earlier by United States Navy ships passing Cape Froward on August 9th 1931. I-54, sunk by Clemson-class destroyers USS Shirk and Wickes-class destroyer USS Rathburne on June 23rd 1931 near Cape Flattery. I-55 I-56 I-57 I-58, sunk by United States Navy ships near Cape Froward on August 9th 1931. I-59, sunk by depth charges on September 14th 1932 by United States Navy ships near Truk lagoon. I-60 I-63
Kaidai IV (I-61/162 class)
I-61 I-62 I-64
Kaidai V (I-65 class)
I-65 I-66 I-67
Kaidai VIa/b (I-68 class and I-74 class)
I-68 I-69 I-70 I-71 I-72 I-73 I-74 I-75 I-76 I-77 I-78
Kaidai VII (I-79 class)
I-79 I-80 I-81 I-82 I-83
Kaichū type submarine
Kaichū I (Ro-11 class)
Ro-11 Ro-12
Kaichū II (Ro-13 class)
Ro-13 Ro-14 Ro-15
Kaichū III (Ro-16 class)
Ro-16 Ro-17 Ro-18 Ro-19 Ro-19 Ro-20 Ro-21 Ro-22 Ro-23 Ro-24 Ro-25
Kaichū IV (Ro-26 class)
Ro-26 Ro-27 Ro-28
Kaichū V (Toku-Chū, Ro-29 class)
Ro-29 Ro-30 Ro-31 Ro-32
Kaichū VI (Ro-33 class)
Ro-33 Ro-34
Type L submarine
Type L1 (Ro-51-class)
Ro-51 Ro-52
Type L2 (Ro-53-class)
Ro-53 Ro-54 Ro-55 Ro-56
Type L3 (Ro-57-class)
Ro-57 Ro-58 Ro-59
Type L4 (Ro-60-class)
Ro-60 Ro-61 Ro-62 Ro-63 Ro-64 Ro-65 Ro-66 Ro-67 Ro-68
Type L5 (Ro-69-class)
Ro-69 Ro-70 Ro-71 Ro-72
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Post by lordroel on Feb 26, 2020 16:20:01 GMT
Japanese Imperial Navy battlecruisers of the Great Pacific War Akagi-class battlecruiser
The Akagi who was formerly an aircraft carrier was rebuild as a battlecruiser between 1931 and June 1932. The result of this rebuilding resulted in a battlecruiser with a total displacement of some 44,000 tons, a top speed of some 30 knots and armed with eight 16 inch guns, twenty 5.5 inch guns, four 3 inch guns and eight torpedo tubes. 1bigrich would this be the same as as the original Akagi-class battlecruiser.
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Post by 1bigrich on Feb 26, 2020 16:55:48 GMT
1bigrich would this be the same as as the original Akagi-class battlecruiser. Amagi and Akagi would have been battlecruiser versions of the Tosa class battleships. Both classes would have been armed with 10 x 16in guns as designed. As I recall, one of Bywater's speculations in the Great Pacific War was that the carriers would be converted back to battlecruisers. Amagi line drawing:
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Post by lordroel on Feb 26, 2020 17:22:55 GMT
1bigrich would this be the same as as the original Akagi-class battlecruiser. Amagi and Akagi would have been battlecruiser versions of the Tosa class battleships. Both classes would have been armed with 10 x 16in guns as designed. As I recall, one of Bywater's speculations in the Great Pacific War was that the carriers would be converted back to battlecruisers. Amagi line drawing: Nice drawing. That is true 1bigrich , both the Akagi-class battlecruiser (Akagi) and Kaga-class battleship (Kaga) which gets sunk at the Battle of Yap (November 20th 1932) are in the novel.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 16, 2020 17:46:53 GMT
Have added The Second Battle of Guam (April 3rd 1931) to the first post depicting all known battles fought during the war.
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Post by gillan1220 on May 18, 2020 14:14:46 GMT
Interesting scenario. I read somewhere though the U.S. wasn't prepared to fight a Pacific War in the 1930s as it needed more carriers.
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Post by lordroel on May 18, 2020 14:55:55 GMT
Interesting scenario. I read somewhere though the U.S. wasn't prepared to fight a Pacific War in the 1930s as it needed more carriers. Also the author seemed to me to be a battleship pro person as he had two Japanese carriers converted back into a battleship and battlecruiser.
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Post by gillan1220 on May 18, 2020 16:19:31 GMT
Interesting scenario. I read somewhere though the U.S. wasn't prepared to fight a Pacific War in the 1930s as it needed more carriers. Also the author seemed to me to be a battleship pro person as he had two Japanese carriers converted back into a battleship and battlecruiser. I asked a scenario once what if the Pacific War started in 1937 with the USS Panay incident. I was told that it would have been a costly war for the U.S.
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Post by lordroel on May 18, 2020 16:25:13 GMT
Also the author seemed to me to be a battleship pro person as he had two Japanese carriers converted back into a battleship and battlecruiser. I asked a scenario once what if the Pacific War started in 1937 with the USS Panay incident. I was told that it would have been a costly war for the U.S. There is somebody on a different forum who made a great TL about it, it is called the Panay War.
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Post by gillan1220 on May 19, 2020 9:23:09 GMT
I asked a scenario once what if the Pacific War started in 1937 with the USS Panay incident. I was told that it would have been a costly war for the U.S. There is somebody on a different forum who made a great TL about it, it is called the Panay War. The other forum has two recent threads regarding the USS Panay incident and what if it led to an earlier Pacific War: WI: The US goes to war over the Panay sinking AHC/WI: USS Panay incident leads to war
Basically one user commented about the U.S. not yet ready for war and there is no national outrage like what happened in Pearl Harbor attacks in our timeline. Even better for the isolationists, the Panay incident would have strengthened their cause for the U.S. not to be involved in global affairs.
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Post by lordroel on May 19, 2020 14:08:58 GMT
There is somebody on a different forum who made a great TL about it, it is called the Panay War. The other forum has two recent threads regarding the USS Panay incident and what if it led to an earlier Pacific War: WI: The US goes to war over the Panay sinking AHC/WI: USS Panay incident leads to war
Basically one user commented about the U.S. not yet ready for war and there is no national outrage like what happened in Pearl Harbor attacks in our timeline. Even better for the isolationists, the Panay incident would have strengthened their cause for the U.S. not to be involved in global affairs. Well there is also the Panay War - Changing The Times and this one Panay War: July-December 1937 (do not know if it is visible for none members but it is sevral chapters long).
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Post by gillan1220 on May 20, 2020 6:45:33 GMT
Another one I found which is similar to this situation for the timeline Yellowstone: 1936 on the Alternate History Wiki. Basically an earlier Pacific War occurs in December 1938 after Japan uses the advantage to take over the Asia-Pacific region after the United States is still recovering from the Yellowstone Eruption of 1936.
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Post by stevep on May 20, 2020 11:49:15 GMT
Another one I found which is similar to this situation for the timeline Yellowstone: 1936 on the Alternate History Wiki. Basically an earlier Pacific War occurs in December 1938 after Japan uses the advantage to take over the Asia-Pacific region after the United States is still recovering from the Yellowstone Eruption of 1936.
Ouch that is nasty. I can't see Japan having that degree of success given the economic and ecological disruption nor being able with their more limited MS to transport so many people off the islands. Also doubtful that temperatures would drop that far for that long.
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