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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2017 10:14:35 GMT
Modern cruisers of the imperial Japanese Navy
Tenryū-class light cruisers
Tenryū
Tatsuta, sunk at the battle of Lubang on March 3rd 1931.
Kuma-class light cruisers
Kuma
Tama
Kitakami
Ōi, sunk at the Battle of Bonins on January 8th 1932.
Kiso
Nagara-class light cruisers
Nagara
Isuzu
Yura
Natori
Kinu
Abukuma
Sendai
Jintsū
Naka
Aoba-class light cruisers
Aoba
Furutaka
Kako
Kinugasa
Ashigara-class light cruisers
Ashigara, sunk at the Battle of Yap on November 20th 1932.
Chitose, sunk at the Battle of Bonins on January 8th 1932.
Haguro
Hashidate
Itsukushima
Kasagi, sunk at the Battle of Bonins on January 8th 1932.
Myoko
Nachi
Otowa
Takasago
Yonezawa
Yoshino
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2017 10:15:25 GMT
Obsolete cruisers of the imperial Japanese Navy
Armored cruiser
Kasuga-class armored cruisers
Kasuga
Nisshin, sunk during the first Battle of Guam on March 20th 1931.
Izumo-class armored cruisers
Idzumo, sunk during the Batle of Rotumah on March 2nd 1932.
Iwate, sunk during the Batle of Rotumah on March 2nd 1932.
Azuma-class armored cruiser
Azuma, sunk during the Batle of Rotumah on March 2nd 1932.
Yakumo-class armored cruiser
Yakumo, sunk during the Batle of Rotumah on March 2nd 1932.
Asama-class armored cruisers
Asama, temporarily rearmed for shore bombardment by replacing their forward 8 inch guns with a pair 12 inch howitzers.
Tokiwa, temporarily rearmed for shore bombardment by replacing their forward 8 inch guns with a pair 12 inch howitzers.
Aso-class armored cruiser
Aso, used as a minelayer with a total of 512 naval mines deployed on its upper and middle deck.
Protected cruiser
Tone-class protected cruiser
Tone
Chikuma-class protected cruiser
Chikuma
Hirado
Yahagi
Niitaka-class protected cruiser
Tsushima
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Post by eurowatch on Jun 23, 2017 15:48:48 GMT
It feels wierd Reading these lists and actually regocnising most of the names, even if they often aren't the same Class or type of ship I know them as.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2017 16:03:36 GMT
It feels wierd Reading these lists and actually regocnising most of the names, even if they often aren't the same Class or type of ship I know them as. Well the United States and Japan seem to recycle names a lot. |
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Post by eurowatch on Jun 23, 2017 16:37:38 GMT
It feels wierd Reading these lists and actually regocnising most of the names, even if they often aren't the same Class or type of ship I know them as. Well the United States and Japan seem to recycle names a lot. Every navy does it, the US and Japan are not unique in that regard. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2017 16:44:53 GMT
Well the United States and Japan seem to recycle names a lot. Every navy does it, the US and Japan are not unique in that regard. Well to sad that in the end there will be only one Kongo left in this universe.  |
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Post by eurowatch on Jun 23, 2017 16:55:12 GMT
Every navy does it, the US and Japan are not unique in that regard. Well to sad that in the end there will be only one Kongo left in this universe. Poor Hiei, her time With her onee-sama was cut too short once again. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2017 17:05:17 GMT
Well to sad that in the end there will be only one Kongo left in this universe. Poor Hiei, her time With her onee-sama was cut too short once again. Well at least she will have Akagi (converted to a battlecruiser in this universe for no reason) and the battleships Nagato,Ise,Hyūga,Fusō and Yamashiro to keep here company. |
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Post by eurowatch on Jun 23, 2017 17:12:58 GMT
Poor Hiei, her time With her onee-sama was cut too short once again. Well at least she will have Akagi (converted to a battlecruiser in this universe for no reason) and the battleships Nagato,Ise,Hyūga,Fusō and Yamashiro to keep here company. Why would Akagi be converted back into a battlecruiser instead of just continue using her as a carrier? That just seems like a waste of resources. At least Fusou and Yamashiro are lucky instead of being constant bad luck magnets like OTL but what Will poor Nagato do without her waifu? |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2017 17:20:01 GMT
Well at least she will have Akagi (converted to a battlecruiser in this universe for no reason) and the battleships Nagato,Ise,Hyūga,Fusō and Yamashiro to keep here company. Why would Akagi be converted back into a battlecruiser instead of just continue using her as a carrier? That just seems like a waste of resources. At least Fusou and Yamashiro are lucky instead of being constant bad luck magnets like OTL but what Will poor Nagato do without her waifu? As we know they where turned into carrier due the Washington Naval Treaty, it seems that in the book the Japanese Imperial Navy toughed that with enough carriers in service and war seeing imminent turning both Akagie and Kaga back into battlecruisers would give the battle fleet more firepower. |
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Post by eurowatch on Jun 23, 2017 17:41:26 GMT
Why would Akagi be converted back into a battlecruiser instead of just continue using her as a carrier? That just seems like a waste of resources. At least Fusou and Yamashiro are lucky instead of being constant bad luck magnets like OTL but what Will poor Nagato do without her waifu? As we know they where turned into carrier due the Washington Naval Treaty, it seems that in the book the Japanese Imperial Navy toughed that with enough carriers in service and war seeing imminent turning both Akagi and Kaga back into battlecruisers would give the battle fleet more firepower. So the Author was a follower of the "those carriers? They will never catch on" idea? |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2017 19:25:45 GMT
As we know they where turned into carrier due the Washington Naval Treaty, it seems that in the book the Japanese Imperial Navy toughed that with enough carriers in service and war seeing imminent turning both Akagi and Kaga back into battlecruisers would give the battle fleet more firepower. So the Author was a follower of the "those carriers? They will never catch on" idea? It looks like it, all the battles that where fought in the GPW verse as i call it where mostly battles between ships with guns leaving the carriers to act as recon assets, so you can say the writer was favoring guns over air power, but he proved to be wrong almost 16 years latter with the outbreak of the Pacific Campaign of World War II where carrier played a major role in naval warfare. |
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Post by oldbill on Dec 18, 2017 3:49:52 GMT
For those interested in wargaming with naval miniatures, Shapeways has a number of the ships from Bywater's work. Bywater himself was a pretty fascinating man, who authored a number of books (I have a copy of Navies and Nations on a bookshelf) he dabbled in the intelligence game (according to this site www.microworks.net/PACIFIC/bases/pearl_inset.htm) and was rather influential in naval circles. I would add that overall, he showed a remarkable perspicacity in envisioning how war would take place in a conflict between the US and Japan. His only real mistake was not recognizing the importance in airpower as a striking arm, a mistake that he was not alone in. |
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Post by lordroel on Dec 18, 2017 3:54:51 GMT
For those interested in wargaming with naval miniatures, Shapeways has a number of the ships from Bywater's work. Bywater himself was a pretty fascinating man, who authored a number of books (I have a copy of Navies and Nations on a bookshelf) he dabbled in the intelligence game (according to this site www.microworks.net/PACIFIC/bases/pearl_inset.htm) and was rather influential in naval circles. I would add that overall, he showed a remarkable perspicacity in envisioning how war would take place in a conflict between the US and Japan. His only real mistake was not recognizing the importance in airpower as a striking arm, a mistake that he was not alone in. Yes i know about them, would work well with the Bywater's War PDF i got. |
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Post by oldbill on Dec 18, 2017 20:13:08 GMT
Thanks for that link! There are some items there that are interesting.
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