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Post by kyuzoaoi on Apr 11, 2022 2:40:41 GMT
I wonder what would an Uyghur SSR in Xinjiang look like when it was annexed to the Soviet Union instead of China. Bonus if it was still bordering the PRC.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 12, 2022 18:31:30 GMT
I wonder what would an Uyghur SSR in Xinjiang look like when it was annexed to the Soviet Union instead of China. Bonus if it was still bordering the PRC. Wonder how a independent Xinjiang would look like after the breakup of the Soviet Union.
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Post by gillan1220 on Apr 12, 2022 20:39:29 GMT
I wonder what would an Uyghur SSR in Xinjiang look like when it was annexed to the Soviet Union instead of China. Bonus if it was still bordering the PRC. It might be like one of the Central Asian Republics. There will be a lot of Muslims which would become a problem for the USSR by the time the Soviet-Afghan War occurs. After the fall of the USSR, the area might be haven for terrorists.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 13, 2022 15:22:41 GMT
I wonder what would an Uyghur SSR in Xinjiang look like when it was annexed to the Soviet Union instead of China. Bonus if it was still bordering the PRC. It might be like one of the Central Asian Republics. There will be a lot of Muslims which would become a problem for the USSR by the time the Soviet-Afghan War occurs. After the fall of the USSR, the area might be haven for terrorists. It will be a big country among the Central Asian Republics.
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Post by gillan1220 on Apr 13, 2022 15:43:31 GMT
It might be like one of the Central Asian Republics. There will be a lot of Muslims which would become a problem for the USSR by the time the Soviet-Afghan War occurs. After the fall of the USSR, the area might be haven for terrorists. It will be a big country among the Central Asian Republics. Post-USSR, it will be a mostly forgotten region. At least there is no Uyghur genocide.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 13, 2022 16:07:25 GMT
It will be a big country among the Central Asian Republics. Post-USSR, it will be a mostly forgotten region. At least there is no Uyghur genocide. Well in OTL it is China's largest natural gas-producing region so i see that helping its economy being a independent country.
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Post by 575 on Apr 21, 2022 14:33:43 GMT
Post-USSR, it will be a mostly forgotten region. At least there is no Uyghur genocide. Well in OTL it is China's largest natural gas-producing region so i see that helping its economy being a independent country. Post-USSR it will be party to the Great Central Asian Game; major players Turkey - Russia - China with Iran as the Joker.
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Post by 575 on Apr 21, 2022 14:48:25 GMT
Central Stream going from Xinjiang via Kazakstan - Uzbekistan - Turkmenia - Iran to Istanbul, Turkey..
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Post by 575 on Apr 22, 2022 18:46:52 GMT
What about the Chinese nuclear test range - somewhere in the north in Inner Mongolia or Kansu, Tsinghai, Tibet?? Sorry if not using the modern transcription but my atlas dated.. could use a webbased but like to flip pages..
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Post by simon darkshade on Apr 23, 2022 3:48:36 GMT
Probably Kansu, which provides the desert isolation whilst being a reasonable distance away from the Mongolian/Soviet border.
Independent Sinkiang is very unlikely without the peculiar situation of the break up of the USSR. As a border march, it inevitably ends up in one empire or another.
No need to apologise for not writing everything in the Chinese version. I don't use it anyway, both through my natural atavism and from the general principle. I don't write of Moskva, Wien or Roma, but use the English versions.
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Post by Max Sinister on May 1, 2022 0:51:32 GMT
Now I wonder how many ethnic Chinese lived there in 1945. And how they'd live as a minority under Soviet rule.
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Post by lordroel on May 1, 2022 7:21:10 GMT
Now I wonder how many ethnic Chinese lived there in 1945. And how they'd live as a minority under Soviet rule. Closest date i could find was 1945.
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Post by stevep on May 1, 2022 15:31:16 GMT
Now I wonder how many ethnic Chinese lived there in 1945. And how they'd live as a minority under Soviet rule. Closest date i could find was 1945.
Sounds like very few and they might well end up being sent 'back' to China after Mao takes over. Both because he would want to claim control over them and Stalin, possibly the master of ethnic cleansing in the period wouldn't want them as a potential group with divided loyalties.
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Post by kyuzoaoi on May 5, 2022 2:35:45 GMT
By the way, I think the rest of the Chinese who were not expelled to China might be counted as "Dungans"/Huis just to keep being expelled and Russified at the same time.
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Post by lordroel on May 5, 2022 15:13:12 GMT
By the way, I think the rest of the Chinese who were not expelled to China might be counted as "Dungans"/Huis just to keep being expelled and Russified at the same time. Why would they be expelled.
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