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Post by stevep on Jul 22, 2022 18:18:01 GMT
A bit of a post hoc rationalisation of the simpler explanation of him wanting to one up Clancy and have all the baddies together in one fell swoop. Too bad current times have been a Tom Clancy novel.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 22, 2022 20:11:43 GMT
Too bad current times have been a Tom Clancy novel. If so where the hell's Jack Ryan when you need him! Think he would not survive the Dragon's Fury universe ore want to live in it. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 23, 2022 4:27:03 GMT
Too bad current times have been a Tom Clancy novel? Which Tom Clancy works are we talking about?
A Tom Clancy novel would have the elements of pandemic, war and espionage, but would also have efficient, patriotic intelligence services, hyper-competent US militaries, British characters acting like 1940s caricatures, deus ex machina endings wrapping things up so the good guys win 100-0 in the end, the enemies are little more than caricatures and the political/cultural world stopped in the early 1990s.
Reality has no relationship with the late Tom Clancy's fantasy at all.
Jeff Head was not a prescient and thoughtful analyst of real life trends, but an example of a broken clock being right twice a day. Reading more into it than that is like trying to critically analyse a Twitter conversation in the same manner as Proust or Joyce.
Clancy would never allow a capable enemy force to intrude on the development of his fantasy worlds; Head went in the opposite direction, forcing himself into ludicrous sci-fi weapons to counter completely unrealistic bogeyman enemy forces.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 24, 2022 11:38:25 GMT
Too bad current times have been a Tom Clancy novel? Which Tom Clancy works are we talking about? Any novel with a rogue Russia, China, North Korea, or Iran. Seems to be the situation right now. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2022 11:55:04 GMT
Too bad current times have been a Tom Clancy novel? Which Tom Clancy works are we talking about? Any novel with a rogue Russia, China, North Korea, or Iran. Seems to be the situation right now. He also had India as far as i know. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 24, 2022 12:05:45 GMT
Any novel with a rogue Russia, China, North Korea, or Iran. Seems to be the situation right now. He also had India as far as i know. I wonder where got the idea of India allying with China. India is also an archrival of China, just like Vietnam. Not only in terms of territory in Kashmir, Aksai Chin, and Ladakh, but also trying to dominate the Asian subcontinent and the Indian Ocean. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2022 12:23:55 GMT
He also had India as far as i know. I wonder where got the idea of India allying with China. India is also an archrival of China, just like Vietnam. Not only in terms of territory in Kashmir, Aksai Chin, and Ladakh, but also trying to dominate the Asian subcontinent and the Indian Ocean. Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is your friend. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 24, 2022 12:32:24 GMT
I wonder where got the idea of India allying with China. India is also an archrival of China, just like Vietnam. Not only in terms of territory in Kashmir, Aksai Chin, and Ladakh, but also trying to dominate the Asian subcontinent and the Indian Ocean. Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is your friend. India is a member of Quad in OTL so somehow the Chinese expansionism is contained. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2022 12:35:26 GMT
Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is your friend. India is a member of Quad in OTL so somehow the Chinese expansionism is contained. For now. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 24, 2022 12:40:15 GMT
India is a member of Quad in OTL so somehow the Chinese expansionism is contained. For now. Unless we go the route of Call of Duty: Black Ops II where the The Strategic Defense Coalition tries to force India, Iran, and Russia in a Beijing-lead alliance. 2025 isn't far off now. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2022 12:48:44 GMT
Unless we go the route of Call of Duty: Black Ops II where the The Strategic Defense Coalition tries to force India, Iran, and Russia in a Beijing-lead alliance. 2025 isn't far off now. Think we go of thread here, even if it is better than the 3 books that the author wrote, but still. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 24, 2022 12:50:01 GMT
Unless we go the route of Call of Duty: Black Ops II where the The Strategic Defense Coalition tries to force India, Iran, and Russia in a Beijing-lead alliance. 2025 isn't far off now. Think we go of thread here, even if it is better than the 3 books that the author wrote, but still. What books has he written? I'm curious. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2022 12:52:17 GMT
Think we go of thread here, even if it is better than the 3 books that the author wrote, but still. What books has he written? I'm curious. The books i mentioned are book I to III of Dragon's Fury. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 24, 2022 12:54:01 GMT
What books has he written? I'm curious. The books i mentioned are book I to III of Dragon's Fury. There's two more books? Never knew that. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2022 12:54:57 GMT
The books i mentioned are book I to III of Dragon's Fury. There's two more books? Never knew that. Think you read it the entire Dragon's Fury in one go, i have it in 3 PDFs. |
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