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Post by simon darkshade on May 8, 2022 8:18:06 GMT
A guilty pleasure? What will be the encore? Hammering a nail into your head?  It is utter dross and you’ll never get back the time you spent reading it or writing on it. I personally believe that a child could write a better WW3 story than this. It’s poor quality and poor writing could be excused if there wasn’t such a dark, racially fired undercurrent to it. That period of the WoT brought out the very worst in some already pretty negative people. As such, I don’t think it should be read, just like Tom Kratman’s execrable Caliphate. They aren’t on the evil level of The Turner Diaries, but come from the same dreadful premise. |
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Post by lordroel on May 8, 2022 8:21:36 GMT
As such, I don’t think it should be read, just like Tom Kratman’s execrable Caliphate. They aren’t on the evil level of The Turner Diaries, but come from the same dreadful premise. I can add Prayers for the Assassin to that list as well. |
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Post by gillan1220 on May 8, 2022 8:27:40 GMT
A guilty pleasure? What will be the encore? Hammering a nail into your head?  It is utter dross and you’ll never get back the time you spent reading it or writing on it. I personally believe that a child could write a better WW3 story than this. It’s poor quality and poor writing could be excused if there wasn’t such a dark, racially fired undercurrent to it. That period of the WoT brought out the very worst in some already pretty negative people. As such, I don’t think it should be read, just like Tom Kratman’s execrable Caliphate. They aren’t on the evil level of The Turner Diaries, but come from the same dreadful premise. Oddly, I did enjoy it, even though it was terrible. Maybe laugh at some of the terrorist attack scenes and why the GIR-CAS was given god mode that lasted for 2/3rd of the novel. |
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Post by lordroel on May 8, 2022 8:29:16 GMT
the GIR-CAS was given god mode that lasted for 2/3rd of the novel. Well that is always the case, have the bad guys run the day until the good guy (Team America) kicks their ass to the stone age. |
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Post by gillan1220 on May 8, 2022 8:31:40 GMT
the GIR-CAS was given god mode that lasted for 2/3rd of the novel. Well that is always the case, have the bad guys run the day until the good guy (Team America) kicks their ass to the stone age. I always wondered why the war never went nuclear when Russia started using tactical nukes against the GIR-CAS armies marching in from Siberia. Or why the Chinese did not use it when things started going sour on their end. The Chinese only used it during the allied fleet assembling in Manila Bay but it was only delaying the inevitable. |
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Post by lordroel on May 8, 2022 8:33:37 GMT
Well that is always the case, have the bad guys run the day until the good guy (Team America) kicks their ass to the stone age. I always wondered why the war never went nuclear when Russia started using tactical nukes against the GIR-CAS armies marching in from Siberia. Or why the Chinese did not use it when things started going sour on their end. The Chinese only used it during the allied fleet assembling in Manila Bay but it was only delaying the inevitable. Because that defeats the purpose of Team America winning the war. |
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Post by simon darkshade on May 8, 2022 9:49:05 GMT
I keep on saying it, but don’t read too much into this rubbish. I’d further say that by reading and allowing yourself to enjoy it, a reader perpetuates the life of a story that deserves to disappear and be forgotten. There is a lot of good stuff out there, but this isn’t even the equivalent of comparing a prime steak to McDonalds, as even the latter has some vague nutritional value. It is worse than that. There are even authors on this website that could be given the reading and commenting treatment that are better for your health, sanity and soul...  |
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Post by gillan1220 on May 8, 2022 12:25:18 GMT
I always wondered why the war never went nuclear when Russia started using tactical nukes against the GIR-CAS armies marching in from Siberia. Or why the Chinese did not use it when things started going sour on their end. The Chinese only used it during the allied fleet assembling in Manila Bay but it was only delaying the inevitable. Because that defeats the purpose of Team America winning the war. Also how convenient for one of the main antagonists and the designer of the Killer Whale torpedo, Lu Pham, to defect the United States. It's ironic because the U.S. was his archenemy after his parents were killed in the Vietnam War. Guess he did it to save his own skin. He now goes by the Americanized name Perry Lee. |
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Post by lordbyron on May 9, 2022 1:59:58 GMT
James G, who used to be on this site, could write a better story with this premise, IMO--I'd rather read Lions Will Fight Bears or his Soviet Domination story than this again...
That said, it was a bit of a guilty pleasure...
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Post by simon darkshade on May 9, 2022 4:44:04 GMT
James tended to write the same story over and over again, with slight alterations. That is fine by me, as it was his own work.
Dragon's Fury takes the concept of Tom Clancy's worst idea and then decorates it with weird self inserts, impossible technology, kindergarten logistics, really nasty politics, poor writing, one dimensional characters, enough deus ex machina to fill an open cut coal mine and no real dramatic tension. It becomes a guilty pleasure for the same reason people eat McDonalds - the combination of fat, sugar and salt makes some parts of the brain go crazy, even if it is horrifically bad for you.
There is a story to be told in it all, but the author failed to do so. The problem lies right at the start:
1.) Politics: Putting together China, India and the spooky mega Iran/Moslem threat doesn't work. There would be capacity for China, Russia and Iran, but that would not have allowed the same racial/religious division
2.) Technology: Supertech sucks. A story could be made where a more conventionally armed China arises as a threat, but the Gee Whiz weapons rob that opportunity from a chance at birth
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 21, 2022 15:02:52 GMT
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 22, 2022 15:15:34 GMT
As I said, those combinations are analysed on account of being possible. Jeff Head’s combination is not.
I don’t want to be too rough on the chap, but his labour of love wasn’t very well written and of all the things that could be read or commented on, it is well down the list.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 22, 2022 15:33:47 GMT
As I said, those combinations are analysed on account of being possible. Jeff Head’s combination is not. I don’t want to be too rough on the chap, but his labour of love wasn’t very well written and of all the things that could be read or commented on, it is well down the list. His story did predict the Russia-China-Iran triangle of the 2010s-2020s. Except Russia would later join the Western Allies in this story since the CAS and the GIR betrayed Moscow. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 22, 2022 16:10:00 GMT
A bit of a post hoc rationalisation of the simpler explanation of him wanting to one up Clancy and have all the baddies together in one fell swoop.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 22, 2022 17:36:23 GMT
A bit of a post hoc rationalisation of the simpler explanation of him wanting to one up Clancy and have all the baddies together in one fell swoop. Too bad current times have been a Tom Clancy novel. |
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