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Post by ukron on Jun 1, 2021 7:51:04 GMT
Hi everyone I'm creating a thread to talk about a rather strange and sometimes misjudged film, World Invasion: Battle of Los Angeles directed in 2011 by Johnathan Libesman with the participation of Aaron Eckhart, Michelle Rodríguez among others. In August 2011, a meteor shower off the large cities turned out to be a large conventional invasion force responsible for neutralizing human defenses, probably with a view to large-scale colonization.
What do you think of this film and its universe?
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Post by stevep on Jun 1, 2021 8:27:41 GMT
Hi everyone I'm creating a thread to talk about a rather strange and sometimes misjudged film, World Invasion: Battle of Los Angeles directed in 2011 by Johnathan Libesman with the participation of Aaron Eckhart, Michelle Rodríguez among others. In August 2011, a meteor shower off the large cities turned out to be a large conventional invasion force responsible for neutralizing human defenses, probably with a view to large-scale colonization. What do you think of this film and its universe?
Never heard of it before but had a look at its wiki entry. Plot sounds a bit contrived, which tends to be common with so many Hollywood war/SF battle films with the standard rather weak - with one bound - ending but could be some interesting character development there.
Would need to know more about what it says about the aliens and their methods and motivation. If their using drones so much does that suggest very limited 'manpower'? Why have their command posts following the drones onto land where they seem more vulnerable? Things like that. Not saying I'm expecting a logical and well organised back-plot in a film but there's greater or lesser degrees of realism in films that affects their value as entertainment, depending of course on the desires of the viewer.
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Post by ukron on Jun 1, 2021 8:56:38 GMT
Agreed, the whole point of movie is based on a conventional type of warfare, where Aliens are mostly relying on a combo between air superiority (relying on drone) and massive firepower (the whole biological aspect of aliens have been heavily modified with energy weapons grafts), their hierachy seems to be quite similar to that deployed on earth, with specific officers and units (technicians and mechanics), which seems to indicate in my opinion that the alien adversary does not seem to have taken into account increased resistance and does not understand the concept of guerrilla warfare (by exposing its officers to direct fire). The defect of the film is based precisely on this preamble, if the aliens seem slightly more advanced than the American armed forces (high energy weapons, semi-autonomous drones with large carrying capacities), their military capacities seem very heavy and ill-suited to a urban type combat. I doubt, in view of their losses against units of the USMC and the California National Guard (no mention is made of the US Navy even if we see some super Hornets chasing drones), I doubt that the aliens are only able to push humans out of town.
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Post by ukron on Jun 3, 2021 15:58:26 GMT
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Post by lordroel on Jun 3, 2021 16:12:23 GMT
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Post by James G on Jun 3, 2021 17:07:47 GMT
I liked it too though I disagreed with a lot of the plot. That is to be expected though. The film was marketed towards those who don't worry over the finer points of military strategy! The gun-ho attitude of the US Marines was what I would expect from a unit at that period - between War on Terror deployments - and well done though I kept on thinking just where was the US Navy and the US Air Force, hell even Army & Marine Aviation too!
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Post by gillan1220 on Jun 3, 2021 20:31:14 GMT
I actually enjoyed it. One of the movies where the aliens don't get a free hand. Deserves a sequel.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 4, 2021 1:59:55 GMT
I liked it too though I disagreed with a lot of the plot. That is to be expected though. The film was marketed towards those who don't worry over the finer points of military strategy! The gun-ho attitude of the US Marines was what I would expect from a unit at that period - between War on Terror deployments - and well done though I kept on thinking just where was the US Navy and the US Air Force, hell even Army & Marine Aviation too! Well if you watch this clip you can hear the start of the invasion, 12 places globally where attack including New York, Boston, Sand Francisco, Sand Diego and of course Los Angles. In this YouTube clip below you can hear also they lost contact with Moscow, Paris, Tokyo and Rio. And watching the movie on Netflix i see that a CNN news report states that London Bridge has been destroyed and that thousands have been killed in Central London, with evacuation efforts under way in South London. Latter in the movie it also mention 20 cities in 17 countries, like: Amman, Jordan. Hamburg,Germany. Shanghai, China. The Battle of Los Angles Wikipedia also mentions these: Manila, Philippines. Jakarta, Indonesia. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Singapore, Singpore.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jun 4, 2021 7:18:23 GMT
I liked it too though I disagreed with a lot of the plot. That is to be expected though. The film was marketed towards those who don't worry over the finer points of military strategy! The gun-ho attitude of the US Marines was what I would expect from a unit at that period - between War on Terror deployments - and well done though I kept on thinking just where was the US Navy and the US Air Force, hell even Army & Marine Aviation too! Well if you watch this clip you can hear the start of the invasion, 12 places globally where attack including New York, Boston, Sand Francisco, Sand Diego and of course Los Angles. In this YouTube clip below you can hear also they lost contact with Moscow, Paris, Tokyo and Rio. And watching the movie on Netflix i see that a CNN news report states that London Bridge has been destroyed and that thousands have been killed in Central London, with evacuation efforts under way in South London. Latter in the movie it also mention 20 cities in 17 countries, like: Amman, Jordan. Hamburg,Germany. Shanghai, China. The Battle of Los Angles Wikipedia also mentions these: Manila, Philippines.Jakarta, Indonesia. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Singapore, Singpore. I guess the aliens attacked New York City since it is major ground city as an economic powerhouse while San Diego has a large navy base. I didn't know my country was attacked in this movie. I haven't seen this in a while. However, if this did happen in March 2011, the AFP is fucked. Not even a fighting chance. 2021 AFP strength can at least put up a fight. In 2011, the AFP operated tin-can warships from WWII and the Cold War, subsonic S211s, aging Hueys and Broncos. The attack helicopters were the small MD-520G. No jets, no missiles, no tanks. It will be a curbstomp battle. The only hope the Filipinos can do is to fight a guerilla warfare against the ground troops.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jun 4, 2021 7:31:16 GMT
The reason there were more attacks around the Asian side of the Pacific Rim would almost certainly seem to be based on some form of marketing, as there is no driving military necessity to attack.
It gets better: Aliens are after water, so they strike at Amman. A bit silly.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jun 4, 2021 7:52:12 GMT
The reason there were more attacks around the Asian side of the Pacific Rim would almost certainly seem to be based on some form of marketing, as there is no driving military necessity to attack. It gets better: Aliens are after water, so they strike at Amman. A bit silly. I'm surprised the aliens didn't go for Tokyo, Japan; Taipei, Taiwan; and Sydney, Australia.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 4, 2021 8:19:26 GMT
The reason there were more attacks around the Asian side of the Pacific Rim would almost certainly seem to be based on some form of marketing, as there is no driving military necessity to attack. It gets better: Aliens are after water, so they strike at Amman. A bit silly. I'm surprised the aliens didn't go for Tokyo, Japan; Taipei, Taiwan; and Sydney, Australia. They did go after Tokyo, it’s mentioned in the first part of the movie and I also put it on the list.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jun 4, 2021 8:27:30 GMT
I'm surprised the aliens didn't go for Tokyo, Japan; Taipei, Taiwan; and Sydney, Australia. They did go after Tokyo, it’s mentioned in the first part of the movie and I also put it on the list. At least the JSDF and the USFJ have a fighting chance against them. Even tiny Singapore could make it hurt. The Philippines would be in a more precarious situation until Allies come to relieve us.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 4, 2021 10:49:59 GMT
They did go after Tokyo, it’s mentioned in the first part of the movie and I also put it on the list. At least the JSDF and the USFJ have a fighting chance against them. Even tiny Singapore could make it hurt. The Philippines would be in a more precarious situation until Allies come to relieve us. Singapore would be the only country that would be invaded in its entirety. The Philippine army needs to redraw their forces out of Manila and set up a perimeter around the city until relief can come.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jun 4, 2021 11:03:17 GMT
At least the JSDF and the USFJ have a fighting chance against them. Even tiny Singapore could make it hurt. The Philippines would be in a more precarious situation until Allies come to relieve us. Singapore would be the only country that would be invaded in its entirety. The Philippine army needs to redraw their forces out of Manila and set up a perimeter around the city until relief can come. It's too small and being a city, Singapore would be heavily destroyed and have a high casualty rate. On the bright side, since some of their air forces are in France, Australia, and the U.S., the Singaporeans would not lose all of their military. Also, Singapore could be used by the aliens to invade nearby Malaysia and Indonesia. For the Philippines, you are correct. The aliens may take Metro Manila but showing the invasion force, it was not meant to take entire countries. In fact, the aliens were having a hard time conquering Los Angeles. Best thing the AFP and the Aquino administration can do is to evacuate to Baguio since it is the nearest city to Manila in the island of Luzon. Irregular warfare can continue in the provinces.
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