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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Feb 23, 2021 0:45:02 GMT
The closest thing Iran came to having a regime change was probably in 2009, during the anti-Ahmadenijad protests, though I can see a different scenario leading to a freer Iran. Although in retrospect, even TTL’s Philippines would not be a good candidate to host the World Cup, even after Tadiar is gone. At the very least, a reunited Korea could be a more, realistic choice. I will see what kind of scenario I can play with here that could result in Iran being taken over by moderates, though it might be Russia who might play a role in the democratization of Iran instead of the US.
EDIT: Changed the venue from Iran to Kazakhstan, though I could change it to Kazakhstan hosting the 2018 World Cup, and Mexico hosting the 2022 World Cup, and Spain hosting the 2014 World Cup.
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Post by gillan1220 on Feb 23, 2021 8:10:48 GMT
The closest thing Iran came to having a regime change was probably in 2009, during the anti-Ahmadenijad protests, though I can see a different scenario leading to a freer Iran. Although in retrospect, even TTL’s Philippines would not be a good candidate to host the World Cup, even after Tadiar is gone. At the very least, a reunited Korea could be a more, realistic choice. I will see what kind of scenario I can play with here that could result in Iran being taken over by moderates, though it might be Russia who might play a role in the democratization of Iran instead of the US. EDIT: Changed the venue from Iran to Kazakhstan, though I could change it to Kazakhstan hosting the 2018 World Cup, and Mexico hosting the 2022 World Cup, and Spain hosting the 2014 World Cup. Philippines in OTL is too poor to host a World Cup and an Olympics. Just look at the SEA Games FUBAR last November 2019. Even our TL's Philippines is better than Tadiar's PH which is poorer. It's gonna result in massive PR disaster since those funds would be used to reconstruction and feeding the population after the Sino-Philippine War. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Feb 23, 2021 8:27:48 GMT
The closest thing Iran came to having a regime change was probably in 2009, during the anti-Ahmadenijad protests, though I can see a different scenario leading to a freer Iran. Although in retrospect, even TTL’s Philippines would not be a good candidate to host the World Cup, even after Tadiar is gone. At the very least, a reunited Korea could be a more, realistic choice. I will see what kind of scenario I can play with here that could result in Iran being taken over by moderates, though it might be Russia who might play a role in the democratization of Iran instead of the US. EDIT: Changed the venue from Iran to Kazakhstan, though I could change it to Kazakhstan hosting the 2018 World Cup, and Mexico hosting the 2022 World Cup, and Spain hosting the 2014 World Cup. Philippines in OTL is too poor to host a World Cup and an Olympics. Just look at the SEA Games FUBAR last November 2019. Even our TL's Philippines is better than Tadiar's PH which is poorer. It's gonna result in massive PR disaster since those funds would be used to reconstruction and feeding the population after the Sino-Philippine War. True, although another potential FUBAR would have been the Asian Cup of OTL 2007 where Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia hosted the tournament. Although in hindsight, does anyone think that Indonesia hosting the World Cup be a great idea? |
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Post by gillan1220 on Feb 23, 2021 8:33:08 GMT
Philippines in OTL is too poor to host a World Cup and an Olympics. Just look at the SEA Games FUBAR last November 2019. Even our TL's Philippines is better than Tadiar's PH which is poorer. It's gonna result in massive PR disaster since those funds would be used to reconstruction and feeding the population after the Sino-Philippine War. True, although another potential FUBAR would have been the Asian Cup of OTL 2007 where Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia hosted the tournament. Although in hindsight, does anyone think that Indonesia hosting the World Cup be a great idea? I think Malaysia or Singapore would be the better host since Indonesia hosting the World Cup would bring light to its alleged human rights violation in West Papua. Not to mention, the World Cup might be a target of an Islamic terrorist attack due to the number of foreign nationals attending it. In the meantime, here's the list of PLA-N vessels as of OTL 1995, which is the year of the Sino-Philippine War in this timeline. |
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Post by stevep on Feb 23, 2021 12:05:20 GMT
True, although another potential FUBAR would have been the Asian Cup of OTL 2007 where Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia hosted the tournament. Although in hindsight, does anyone think that Indonesia hosting the World Cup be a great idea? I think Malaysia or Singapore would be the better host since Indonesia hosting the World Cup would bring light to its alleged human rights violation in West Papua. Not to mention, the World Cup might be a target of an Islamic terrorist attack due to the number of foreign nationals attending it. In the meantime, here's the list of PLA-N vessels as of OTL 1995, which is the year of the Sino-Philippine War in this timeline.
I can't see Singapore doing it as while it might have the wealth it doesn't have the space. Possibly a joint Malaysia-Singapore bid, although have a feeling TheRomanSlayer, mentioned that FIFA wasn't going for any joint bid. Malaysia might have the wealth by this sort of time although whether it would have the interest and you might still see some terror threats. Its probably the best chance in the region in the current period assuming it develops economically as well as OTL. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Feb 23, 2021 15:32:52 GMT
OTL World Cup in Qatar next year has five venues from which they can host the matches. I think Malaysia hosting it would be doable, and a lot easier as well.
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Post by kyuzoaoi on Feb 23, 2021 19:01:43 GMT
Better. They have built the Petronas Towers in OTL and sure they can do that.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Feb 23, 2021 21:21:26 GMT
True, though Malaysia’s football team hasn’t done well historically. Just recently looked up at the Malaysia national football team, I don't think they would be a good host for the World Cup, simply because they only have two stadiums that would be approved by FIFA, although it might be possible for Malaysia to build more stadiums.
Also, one other factor in the possibility of Indonesia hosting the World Cup, despite its spotty human rights record, would be the West Papua insurgency. However, Indonesia being the host of the World Cup would indeed be a terrorist's greatest dream, so that might be a big negative. Thailand or Vietnam might also be a good host, the former being more possible. However, there is an intense rivalry between Thailand and Vietnam, going back from the various wars that they fought against each other, so don't be surprised if we get to see Vietnam or Thailand becoming the first SE Asian nation to qualify for TTL's World Cup, though given the updates involving football in the Philippines ITTL, we might also see them debut in a similar fashion to how North Korea fared at the OTL 2010 World Cup.
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Post by gillan1220 on Feb 24, 2021 7:15:12 GMT
Here's some information if you're gonna put the Yamashita treasure to trade for weapons or spare parts.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Feb 25, 2021 0:08:48 GMT
I am actually covering that in the upcoming update, plus the debut of a certain former soldier who fought in Lunan Island during the war.
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Post by kyuzoaoi on Feb 25, 2021 1:23:50 GMT
By the way, what would be the Philippine equivalent to Pinochet-era Chile's "Free Helicopter Rides" would be under Tadiar?
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Feb 25, 2021 1:57:49 GMT
By the way, what would be the Philippine equivalent to Pinochet-era Chile's "Free Helicopter Rides" would be under Tadiar? We did get a glimpse of how the Philippine Navy of TTL had machine gunned down the left wing activists and fed them to the sharks, so that might be a gruesome kind of thing that would not qualify for a meme. Then again, TTL’s Philippines has concentration camps for a reason. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Feb 25, 2021 5:37:42 GMT
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Feb 25, 2021 7:16:03 GMT
That was the inspiration behind the capture of the Marcos family ITTL. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Feb 25, 2021 11:44:49 GMT
That was the inspiration behind the capture of the Marcos family ITTL. I'm curious why the U.S. did not rescue the Marcoses in this timeline. |
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