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Post by lordroel on Nov 10, 2021 17:12:13 GMT
A fair bit. A larger boat, pure teardrop hull, a British nuclear reactor, more torpedo tubes for larger weapons and 1st generation anechoic tiles. Seems with all of the British subs you mention.
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 10, 2021 17:55:11 GMT
Given that Dreadnought sets those out, the others follow from there, insofar as the 50s boats are concerned.
In the 60s, things start to change from that general format with the Churchill’s, progressing through the R and S classes. The point behind their features is for the SSN to have a land attack capability without sacrificing its maritime supremacy. This comes with a cost.
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Post by lordroel on Nov 13, 2021 19:13:00 GMT
Resolution, Retribution, Resistance, Redoubtable, Ramillies, Reprisal, Raider, Regulus, Romulus, Retaliation, Regent, Ranger, Resurgent, Reward, Robust, Roman, Rigorous, Radiant, Ready, Restless10,000t, 465ft x 45ft x 35ft, 24 English Electric Green Knight SLBM, 4 x 24” TT, 25kts Construction of the Resolution class is now complete at 20 boats, with a successor class under design for entry into service in the latter part of the 1970s. A lot of firepower for the Royal Navy boomer fleet, is the Green Knight related to OTL Blue Streak (missile)/
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 13, 2021 19:23:39 GMT
No, it is not. It is a 3000nm range solid fuel SLBM with a single megaton range warhead. It is already showing its age by ‘68.
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Post by lordroel on Nov 13, 2021 19:24:44 GMT
No, it is not. It is a 3000nm range solid fuel SLBM with a single megaton range warhead. It is already showing its age by ‘68. Only a single 1 megaton warhead, nothing bigger for the Royal Navy.
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 13, 2021 19:28:06 GMT
Megaton range doesn’t mean 1 Megaton, but a yield of over 1 Megaton, in this case 2.5 Mt. The yield was chosen based on the accuracy of the missile, as well as that particular warhead being the best balance of size and yield when the subs and missile system were being designed.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 1, 2021 19:29:55 GMT
USN Aircraft Plans for the 1970s
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1.) The Grumman F-14 Tomcat is due to enter service in mid 1969 to replace the current mixture of F-8 Crusader III and F-4J Phantom II fighter squadrons. It will be unquestionably the most powerful carrier fighter in the world, combining a very long range, exceptionally heavy armament (up to 8 AIM-54 air to air missiles), advanced new avionics, versatile ground attack capacity and superb dog fighting performance.
2.) The mainstay of the fleet over Vietnam has been the Phantom and it is considered that it will continue as a frontline fighter-bomber throughout the 1970s whilst it’s replacement is developed under the VFAX programme. This began in 1967 and aims to develop a fighter-bomber that provides at least a 25% improvement over the Phantom across the board.
3.) The current Light Attack A-7 Corsair II and A-4 Skyhawk squadrons and the Attack Squadrons equipped with the A-6 Intruder are to be replaced by the VAX, a single supersonic naval attack aircraft capable of carrying a large conventional or nuclear payload in a strike role, with an explicit anti-ship mission speciality.
4.) The combination A-5 Vigilante and F-111B Vindicator II have performed the heavy attack/carrier bomber role with aplomb for several years, but current plans call for them to be replaced with an evolved and improved version of the F-111B by 1972. Development of a replacement of the A-3 Skywarrior in the stand off nuclear delivery role is well underway.
5.) Development of the licenced McDonnell Douglas AV-8 Harrier into a more advanced ground attack/close air support aircraft is underway, with significant advances anticipated, given the more focused USN and USMC light attack requirement.
6.) Replacement of the S-2 Tracker ASW aircraft with a multirole twin jet aircraft combining ASW, ASuW, ground attack and reconnaissance has been given a high priority, given the imminent retirement of the older anti submarine CVSs.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 1, 2021 19:39:18 GMT
USN Aircraft Plans for the 1970s USN 1.) The Grumman F-14 Tomcat is due to enter service in mid 1969 to replace the current mixture of F-8 Crusader III and F-4J Phantom II fighter squadrons. It will be unquestionably the most powerful carrier fighter in the world, combining a very long range, exceptionally heavy armament (up to 8 AIM-54 air to air missiles), advanced new avionics, versatile ground attack capacity and superb dog fighting performance. First does it resemble the OTL version and second will other countries be allowed to buy like OTL Iran.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 2, 2021 2:44:23 GMT
It is similar in appearance to the @ plane, but with a few differences.
As for other countries, it will be fairly expensive and a specialist naval fighter. I’m really not sure if Persia will be in the market for it, as they aren’t quite overflowing with the same windfall of cash that came from oil price increases in the 1960s and early 1970s; I’m aware of the Shah’s long list of acquisitions in @, by the by, so we don’t need to rehash them here. They will be after a frontline fighter to replace the Spectre, but I’ll have to think on their options, which have an Anglo-American bent as in @.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 2, 2021 3:59:32 GMT
6.) Replacement of the S-2 Tracker ASW aircraft with a multirole twin jet aircraft combining ASW, ASuW, ground attack and reconnaissance has been given a high priority, given the imminent retirement of the older anti submarine CVSs. Would that be the Lockheed S-3 Viking.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 2, 2021 4:13:05 GMT
A very much expanded multirole version, with an equal emphasis on surface strike.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 2, 2021 4:44:49 GMT
4.) The combination A-5 Vigilante and F-111B Vindicator II have performed the heavy attack/carrier bomber role with aplomb for several years, but current plans call for them to be replaced with an evolved and improved version of the F-111B by 1972. So the F-111B will get a new version and unlike OTL will not be replaced by the F-14 Tomcat.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 2, 2021 5:18:26 GMT
Yes, it is used as a heavy long range strike plane, not a fleet air defence fighter.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 2, 2021 5:27:09 GMT
Overall, the underlying principle is driven by the principle enemy threats. With a large Soviet surface fleet including carriers in addition to naval bombers and subs, the structure of CVWs has a heavier accent upon responding to that threat, rather than being a facsimile of @. The successor to the F-4 will be an appropriately strike-heavy fighter-bomber, rather than the lighter F/A-18 of @; the S-3 analogue is multirole from the start and the VAX is a wholly new concept.
It makes for a more expensive force, but a rather more capable one, as surface strike and land attack are complimentary capabilities. This is for the largest decks, which there are more of and represents what the budget of a well funded USN can supply. The British are a step back, and the French a step back from that.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 2, 2021 15:11:49 GMT
Overall, the underlying principle is driven by the principle enemy threats. With a large Soviet surface fleet including carriers in addition to naval bombers and subs, the structure of CVWs has a heavier accent upon responding to that threat, rather than being a facsimile of @. The successor to the F-4 will be an appropriately strike-heavy fighter-bomber, rather than the lighter F/A-18 of @; the S-3 analogue is multirole from the start and the VAX is a wholly new concept. It makes for a more expensive force, but a rather more capable one, as surface strike and land attack are complimentary capabilities. This is for the largest decks, which there are more of and represents what the budget of a well funded USN can supply. The British are a step back, and the French a step back from that. Also are the carriers bigger in the Darkearth verse, if so than handling the F-111B is not going to be a issue.
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