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Post by mobiyuz on Aug 15, 2020 11:00:58 GMT
Welcome to the Mobiyuz Strip Timeline 31
POD: Indeterminate (Approx. 1840s-1850s)
Hardness: 2
Focus Nation: California Republic
Summary:
In the aftermath of the collapse of the United States of America during the War of Dissolution, California was left as one of the less developed and weaker nations in the vacuum left by its mother country, but would experience an exponential growth trajectory over the course of the next century and a half. Through the course of war and prosperity, California develops into one of the world's most influential states politically, economically, and culturally, and the timeline also explores other aspects changed by the collapse of the United States. This includes a disgraced Abraham Lincoln leading a new, moderate faction of socialist thought, a less punitive ending to WWI, the USSR as the primary aggressor in WWII, the creation of a Black American state from former CSA territory, and the rise of a new, pluralistic world order in the modern era.
Celtiaid Am Byth
POD: 274 AD, Battle of Châlons
Hardness: 3 - 3.5
Focus Nation: Empire of All Celts
Summary:
A remnant of the Third Century Crisis, the Empire of Britannia nonetheless develops into a deeply Celtic nationstate that grows to encompass the British Isles (here known as the Cambrian Isles). Remaining largely pagan and Celtic even through the Early Modern Era, the country is an example of extreme social development at a time of religious conservatism in Europe and the world, and is stubbornly dedicated to protecting its existence against a hostile European continent. With the main "story" picking up in 1601 AD, this timeline is ongoing and is still experiencing historical developments.
Highland Cathedral
POD: 19 August 1561, Mary I's Return to Scotland
Hardness: 2 - 2.5
Focus Nation: Kingdom of Scotland
Summary:
After meditating heavily on the Scottish predicament, Mary I, Queen of Scots, embarks on a new path for Scotland intended to take the affairs of her country into its own hands, and to navigate the increasingly complicated matters of the Reformation, the Anglo-French conflict, and the growing colonialist era while maintaining Scottish sovereignty and independence against forces both at home and abroad that seek to subjugate it.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 15, 2020 11:03:49 GMT
Welcome to the Mobiyuz Strip Nice name mobiyuz for this thread and also good stuff already.
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Post by CarlmanZ on Aug 15, 2020 11:51:32 GMT
Now this is oh so cool! Mobiyuz, your stuff is great, and you are, too!
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Post by mobiyuz on Aug 15, 2020 12:55:36 GMT
Timeline 31 - The World, 2018
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Post by american2006 on Aug 15, 2020 13:51:14 GMT
What’s the “main” power in this ATL (like OTL US)
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Post by stevep on Aug 15, 2020 13:58:40 GMT
Well that looks like a very chaotic world compared to ours. As well as the US being shattered it looks like Russia is split and China has also suffered badly, possibly with a civil war ongoing there given the reddish faction in the north and another on the south coast and the ME looks even more fragmented. Britain has lost southern Ireland and Quebec is independence of Canada while Germany seems to be the only OTL nation looking larger, very similarly to its 1919 borders but with Austria. India might have Ceylon/Sri Lanka or that could just be similar colours. South Africa, Libya and Sudan are split up although an E African federation of the British colonies there seem to be surviving. Just noticed Finland is also a lot larger. Looks a very interesting world.
Was your Californian Republic on the SV site? I think I remember seeing it when I was there for a while.
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Post by mobiyuz on Aug 15, 2020 15:25:20 GMT
Well that looks like a very chaotic world compared to ours. As well as the US being shattered it looks like Russia is split and China has also suffered badly, possibly with a civil war ongoing there given the reddish faction in the north and another on the south coast and the ME looks even more fragmented. Britain has lost southern Ireland and Quebec is independence of Canada while Germany seems to be the only OTL nation looking larger, very similarly to its 1919 borders but with Austria. India might have Ceylon/Sri Lanka or that could just be similar colours. South Africa, Libya and Sudan are split up although an E African federation of the British colonies there seem to be surviving. Just noticed Finland is also a lot larger. Looks a very interesting world. Was your Californian Republic on the SV site? I think I remember seeing it when I was there for a while. I've thought about SV, but I don't think it was ever on there. That said China was in a civil war but last month in 2020 it finally came to an end with the anti-communist faction (the "Kunming Government") defeating the CCP and thus bringing the Second Republic of China. Meanwhile Germany is a whole other thing as a result of the alternate end to WWI, and Sri Lanka is independent while the East African Federation is a whole thing too. Plenty of catching up to do.
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Post by mobiyuz on Aug 15, 2020 15:28:28 GMT
What’s the “main” power in this ATL (like OTL US) There isn't one, this is a world where superpowers have more or less ceased to exist in light of the rise of new Supranational Organizations ("Supranats") that bring multiple nations together to cooperate on major regional matters and at times help to guide a common overseas policy. For instance the North American Union or the European Commonwealth, in a sense these are the new superpowers. It's a very multipolar world.
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Post by mobiyuz on Aug 15, 2020 20:37:51 GMT
Celtiaid Am Byth - Europe, 1600/1090Europe has always been a divided place. The last time it could have been said to be truly "unified" to any real degree was during the years of the Roman Empire, and yet even that wasn't truly unifying the continent. War, conflict, and turmoil have always been a reality here, and will for centuries to come. And even as Europe remains reeling from the fallout of the League Wars between the Catholic League and the Reformist League, the stage may be set for the outbreak of yet another war...
Some quick highlights: - Constantinople was sacked and mostly destroyed by the Rasulid Caliphate in 1442, but later thrown out of Thrace by a European coalition. Since then, the Rasulids have gone no further than Anatolia. In the years since, Bulgaria controls Thrace and built a new city in Constantinople, though these days more people simply call it "Novgrad" - the "New City". - The Holy Roman Empire is more divided than ever before as what limited imperial government there was is now dominated by Reformist states, something that irks the Catholics to no end and may very well be the grounds for the next war. Currently ruled by Emperor Matthias II of Bohemia, the HRE lost more than 20% of its population in the League Wars, and barely exists as an entity of any kind. - Spain is, as can be seen, unified by Portugal and Castile rather than Castile and Aragon, meanwhile Aragon struggles to maintain internal peace as its core lands on Hispania are mixed between Reformists and Catholics. Navarra, meanwhile, has cozied up to France in an effort to protect its independence. Garnatah remains the last Muslim majority outpost in mainland Europe, propped up by the Rasulids and the Spanish preoccupation with Hesperia. - Scandinavia is thoroughly dominated by the Kingdom of Sweden, which has been grappling with Russia for control of Finland and territory on the White Sea for decades. Having recently conquered lands against Denmark and Norway, it nonetheless has a growing issue with the rise of unrest among their Sami subject to the far north, especially with the recent rumors of the coming of a "North King"... - The United Kingdoms of Poland and Hungary are desperately attempting to hold themselves together, weakened dramatically by the League Wars and suffering badly. They're already cut in half by the Carpathian Mountains, and now that's only growing worse while the two constituent kingdoms start to grow discordant from their historical unity with each other. - The new order of Europe is currently dominated by the Franco-Celtic league that has arisen out of the Treaty of Reconciliation, signed in late 1600 AD / early 1091 CY. Sometimes disparagingly called the "Pax Gallocambria" (the Gaulish-Celtic Peace), it has nonetheless marked an unprecedented era of cooperation between the two ancient enemies, the shockwaves of which are still rippling through Europe to this day.
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Post by mobiyuz on Aug 16, 2020 18:29:00 GMT
Highland Cathedral - The British Isles, 1620As of the year 1620, the British Isles have proven to be just as unstable and fluid of a place as any other. In a situation where the Crown of England dominates three-fourths of the land area on the archipelago, the fact that Scotland has managed to remain independent this far is nothing short of a miracle, attributed largely to sharp diplomacy and keen politics on Scotland's part, especially when it involved using the chaotic politics of England to its advantage. As England is undoubtedly the biggest threat to Scotland's sovereignty, Scotland's continued independence is itself dependent on maintaining a relationship with England friendly enough to allow for coexistence while not so friendly that England would get ideas of annexation.
England for its part is a basket case ever since the death of Elizabeth I, the last of the House of Tudor. Through the reigns of King Henry IX and King Henry X, England has been wracked by war and religious conflict, all of it contributing to financial insolvency so bad that it gave the Isle of Man to the Scottish Crown in lieu of repaying many of its loans, and even then it remains indebted to countries on all sides. Not just within England itself, but Ireland is perpetually a source of headaches and potential rebellion from its largely Catholic population that has always been opposed to England's rule. Even as a nominally separate "Kingdom of Ireland", the island is still a powder keg just waiting to go off, and with England in its weakened state that may come sooner than desired.
Relations between England and Scotland have always been tense, and lately they've grown tense again with Henry X embracing the Puritans and embarking on harsh anti-Catholic measures within England, understandable in the context of the War of the Three Kingdoms, but the Puritans themselves are so austere and harsh in their strict interpretation of the scriptures and how that applies to government that it has led to Mary I, Queen of Scots slowly alienating herself and Scotland from the English government. Indeed many English Catholics have now begun to flee north into Scotland, where despite the country being mostly Protestant and having undergone its own Catholic uprising during the war is nonetheless ruled by a Catholic Queen and has implemented various religious tolerance laws, so that when choosing between Scotland and England, Scotland appears the more appealing option.
Thus even as the two (three) kingdoms pull themselves back together in the aftermath of the war, Scotland is again finding itself adrift in the world. Its only real consolation is that Europe has been drawn into religious war with itself once again, and as such states like Spain and France are too busy fighting in the Holy Roman Empire to bother with a small nation in the North Atlantic or its colonies overseas. England too is less of a bother, as the new Puritan-dominated government there has begun to pull into isolation as it focuses on "internal purification". As such, Scotland now finds itself in a position with more room to maneuver than ever before, and for once it can focus on its own affairs without being bothered too much by the endless conflicts that roil Europe.
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Post by mobiyuz on Aug 17, 2020 12:42:02 GMT
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Post by stevep on Aug 17, 2020 14:34:31 GMT
Highland Cathedral - The British Isles, 1620As of the year 1620, the British Isles have proven to be just as unstable and fluid of a place as any other. In a situation where the Crown of England dominates three-fourths of the land area on the archipelago, the fact that Scotland has managed to remain independent this far is nothing short of a miracle, attributed largely to sharp diplomacy and keen politics on Scotland's part, especially when it involved using the chaotic politics of England to its advantage. As England is undoubtedly the biggest threat to Scotland's sovereignty, Scotland's continued independence is itself dependent on maintaining a relationship with England friendly enough to allow for coexistence while not so friendly that England would get ideas of annexation.
England for its part is a basket case ever since the death of Elizabeth I, the last of the House of Tudor. Through the reigns of King Henry IX and King Henry X, England has been wracked by war and religious conflict, all of it contributing to financial insolvency so bad that it gave the Isle of Man to the Scottish Crown in lieu of repaying many of its loans, and even then it remains indebted to countries on all sides. Not just within England itself, but Ireland is perpetually a source of headaches and potential rebellion from its largely Catholic population that has always been opposed to England's rule. Even as a nominally separate "Kingdom of Ireland", the island is still a powder keg just waiting to go off, and with England in its weakened state that may come sooner than desired.
Relations between England and Scotland have always been tense, and lately they've grown tense again with Henry X embracing the Puritans and embarking on harsh anti-Catholic measures within England, understandable in the context of the War of the Three Kingdoms, but the Puritans themselves are so austere and harsh in their strict interpretation of the scriptures and how that applies to government that it has led to Mary I, Queen of Scots slowly alienating herself and Scotland from the English government. Indeed many English Catholics have now begun to flee north into Scotland, where despite the country being mostly Protestant and having undergone its own Catholic uprising during the war is nonetheless ruled by a Catholic Queen and has implemented various religious tolerance laws, so that when choosing between Scotland and England, Scotland appears the more appealing option.
Thus even as the two (three) kingdoms pull themselves back together in the aftermath of the war, Scotland is again finding itself adrift in the world. Its only real consolation is that Europe has been drawn into religious war with itself once again, and as such states like Spain and France are too busy fighting in the Holy Roman Empire to bother with a small nation in the North Atlantic or its colonies overseas. England too is less of a bother, as the new Puritan-dominated government there has begun to pull into isolation as it focuses on "internal purification". As such, Scotland now finds itself in a position with more room to maneuver than ever before, and for once it can focus on its own affairs without being bothered too much by the endless conflicts that roil Europe.
Sounds like basically England and Scotland have swapped policies. Here England had the chaotic conflict between Catholics and Puritans that occurred in Scotland OTL and Scotland has become a lot more tolerant than just about anywhere in Europe at this stage OTL. Also did Elizabeth I have a son here or were Henry IX and Xth other relations as the crown didn't pass to the Scottish throne as OTL.
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Post by mobiyuz on Aug 17, 2020 23:20:51 GMT
Highland Cathedral - The British Isles, 1620As of the year 1620, the British Isles have proven to be just as unstable and fluid of a place as any other. In a situation where the Crown of England dominates three-fourths of the land area on the archipelago, the fact that Scotland has managed to remain independent this far is nothing short of a miracle, attributed largely to sharp diplomacy and keen politics on Scotland's part, especially when it involved using the chaotic politics of England to its advantage. As England is undoubtedly the biggest threat to Scotland's sovereignty, Scotland's continued independence is itself dependent on maintaining a relationship with England friendly enough to allow for coexistence while not so friendly that England would get ideas of annexation.
England for its part is a basket case ever since the death of Elizabeth I, the last of the House of Tudor. Through the reigns of King Henry IX and King Henry X, England has been wracked by war and religious conflict, all of it contributing to financial insolvency so bad that it gave the Isle of Man to the Scottish Crown in lieu of repaying many of its loans, and even then it remains indebted to countries on all sides. Not just within England itself, but Ireland is perpetually a source of headaches and potential rebellion from its largely Catholic population that has always been opposed to England's rule. Even as a nominally separate "Kingdom of Ireland", the island is still a powder keg just waiting to go off, and with England in its weakened state that may come sooner than desired.
Relations between England and Scotland have always been tense, and lately they've grown tense again with Henry X embracing the Puritans and embarking on harsh anti-Catholic measures within England, understandable in the context of the War of the Three Kingdoms, but the Puritans themselves are so austere and harsh in their strict interpretation of the scriptures and how that applies to government that it has led to Mary I, Queen of Scots slowly alienating herself and Scotland from the English government. Indeed many English Catholics have now begun to flee north into Scotland, where despite the country being mostly Protestant and having undergone its own Catholic uprising during the war is nonetheless ruled by a Catholic Queen and has implemented various religious tolerance laws, so that when choosing between Scotland and England, Scotland appears the more appealing option.
Thus even as the two (three) kingdoms pull themselves back together in the aftermath of the war, Scotland is again finding itself adrift in the world. Its only real consolation is that Europe has been drawn into religious war with itself once again, and as such states like Spain and France are too busy fighting in the Holy Roman Empire to bother with a small nation in the North Atlantic or its colonies overseas. England too is less of a bother, as the new Puritan-dominated government there has begun to pull into isolation as it focuses on "internal purification". As such, Scotland now finds itself in a position with more room to maneuver than ever before, and for once it can focus on its own affairs without being bothered too much by the endless conflicts that roil Europe.
Sounds like basically England and Scotland have swapped policies. Here England had the chaotic conflict between Catholics and Puritans that occurred in Scotland OTL and Scotland has become a lot more tolerant than just about anywhere in Europe at this stage OTL. Also did Elizabeth I have a son here or were Henry IX and Xth other relations as the crown didn't pass to the Scottish throne as OTL.
Steve
Henry IX was the OTL Lord Darnley, where Mary I managed to avoid marrying him and instead married Claud Hamilton, the brother of the 3rd Earl of Arran. Henry X is Henry IX's son.
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Post by stevep on Aug 18, 2020 15:36:04 GMT
Sounds like basically England and Scotland have swapped policies. Here England had the chaotic conflict between Catholics and Puritans that occurred in Scotland OTL and Scotland has become a lot more tolerant than just about anywhere in Europe at this stage OTL. Also did Elizabeth I have a son here or were Henry IX and Xth other relations as the crown didn't pass to the Scottish throne as OTL.
Steve
Henry IX was the OTL Lord Darnley, where Mary I managed to avoid marrying him and instead married Claud Hamilton, the brother of the 3rd Earl of Arran. Henry X is Henry IX's son.
How did he become king of England? There was enough doubt about the OTL James I despite him having Tudor ancestry. Ah read his Wiki entry but assuming that he doesn't marry Mary unless he makes a good marriage in England I'm surprised he would have much chance of claiming the crown given his erratic behaviour. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
Thanks anyway for clarifying.
Steve
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Post by mobiyuz on Aug 18, 2020 15:57:51 GMT
Henry IX was the OTL Lord Darnley, where Mary I managed to avoid marrying him and instead married Claud Hamilton, the brother of the 3rd Earl of Arran. Henry X is Henry IX's son.
How did he become king of England? There was enough doubt about the OTL James I despite him having Tudor ancestry. Ah read his Wiki entry but assuming that he doesn't marry Mary unless he makes a good marriage in England I'm surprised he would have much chance of claiming the crown given his erratic behaviour. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
Thanks anyway for clarifying.
Steve
Trust me, it was a disaster and led to this hot mess:
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