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Post by Zyobot on Jul 18, 2020 16:02:17 GMT
'2029 US To 1929'.
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Post by stevep on Jul 19, 2020 10:25:08 GMT
To respond to one of Zyobot's scenarios, what about 2012 Canada to 1812, just after the US declares war and attacks. They get stomped on but what happens then. How much does Canada seek to impose 21st century values on the 1812 world? Does it seek to end slavery by force in the Americas, which would be a big job? To protect the Indians, most especially perhaps Tecumseh's Confederation against US encroachment? To interfere in the Napoleonic Wars and if so in which ways?
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 19, 2020 14:00:04 GMT
'Founding Fathers Watch HBO's John Adams Miniseries'.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 20, 2020 14:31:26 GMT
'1964 LBJ Replaces 1944 FDR As POTUS'. And the downtimers are made to think of the change in management as legitimate, too. With Johnson having taken office, I'm curious as to not only how he leads the country through World War II and helps restructure the global political paradigm afterwards, but also whether he can win an electoral landslide comparable to that of his OTL self?
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 21, 2020 16:19:18 GMT
'1997 Bill Clinton Replaces 1977 Jimmy Carter As POTUS'. Which, as usual, the downtimers are made to think of as a legitimate transition.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 22, 2020 17:56:32 GMT
‘1918 WW1 Factions Learn Future Leading Up To 1948’.
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Post by stevep on Jul 23, 2020 10:37:18 GMT
‘1918 WW1 Factions Learn Future Leading Up To 1948’.
Well the two most prominent things I can see are determination, especially in much of Europe to prevent the Nazis from rising and to aid the whites and other anti-bolshevik forces in Russia. Assuming this is happening after the armistice. It could be different while fighting is still going on. Preventing the Nazis from rising could lead to a more restrictive peace on Germany, or at least seeking to properly enforce the OTL Versailles one. I know a lot of people argue the peace was too harsh on Germany but unless the US doesn't retreat into isolationism and is willing to join a proto-NATO - which seems unlikely - or a stable non-communist Russia emerges its probably the best bet. It needed to be properly enforced however.
Other things that might happen are there's going to be a lot of issues with regards to Japan. Can it avoid sliding into deranged military dictatorship and how do the other powers, especially Britain and the US react to 1918 Japan. An harsher line or attempts at peaceful engagement. Most likely a bit of both with Britain preferring the latter and the US the former. There could well be no Washington Naval Treaty in TTL as the disastrous impact of this for Britain especially is going to be raised.
Depending on how much details are supplied [and how accurate those details are] on the future [as well as to whom] but there's going to be a lot of interest in nuclear physics, strategic bombers and carriers along with other aspects of future science.
I don't know how much internal politics in the assorted country will develop but there's going to be a lot of turmoil in most countries. May be too late to prevent the decline of the Liberals in Britain. Suspect the US will slip into isolationism again but possibly a more heavily armed form. Just about anything could happen in France, Germany, Japan and Russia to name a few.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 24, 2020 16:01:42 GMT
'1992 George H.W. Bush Vs. 2012 Barack Obama' in yet another cross-time presidential election, in which a slew of Democratic states from 2012 are sent back in time along with Barry and his assorted staff.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 25, 2020 16:09:08 GMT
For a cross-time election between two presidents who operated in two different centuries, '2024 Election: Abe Lincoln Vs. Franklin Roosevelt'. And both receive knowledge of how the modern world works and adapt their views appropriately so that neither of them alienates the bulk of the voting public on the campaign trail.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 26, 2020 16:44:39 GMT
'2012 Silicon Valley To 1982'.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 26, 2020 16:52:40 GMT
'2012 Silicon Valley To 1982'. A lot of companies did not exist in 1982, are people also brought along. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 26, 2020 16:54:12 GMT
'2012 Silicon Valley To 1982'. A lot of companies did not exist in 1982, are people also brought along. Well, yeah. That seems to be the default assumption with location ISOTs, after all. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 27, 2020 17:59:47 GMT
'2000 People Learns Of Future Up To 2010'.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 27, 2020 18:05:39 GMT
'2000 People Learns Of Future Up To 2010'. Well at least they do not learn what happens 10 years after 2010. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 27, 2020 18:19:26 GMT
'2000 People Learns Of Future Up To 2010'. Well at least they do not learn what happens 10 years after 2010. Yeah, that's part of why I only had them learn what ensues ten years into their future rather than twenty (because otherwise, topics best discussed in 'Politics and Current Affairs' would trickle in here). For one, my guess is that they'll want to preemptively stop 9/11 from happening this time around, with Governor Bush's chances of becoming president taking the most epic nosedive.
Their reactions to breakthroughs like the iPhone would be interesting, with the same applying to follow-ups like the iPad as well as competing smart devices released by the likes of Samsung and whatnot. 2010 probably being before excessive screen time became the latest moral panic, I'm guessing that there would be much less contention about adopting them once they arrive on the market, a demand that Apple and its fellow tech companies will surely attempt to meet sooner than they did IOTL. On the bright side, I suppose that fears of the Y2K problem causing the end of the world have now been dispelled, so that's one small reassurance in an ocean of newfound uncertainties.
Also, a certain University of Chicago Law School professor rapidly receives the news of a lifetime: that in another 2008, he was elected the first black president. And due to the fact that millions of other people have also been made aware of this, cue armies of reporters knocking on Obama’s door and asking for an interview with him over how it feels to know that in another history, he became POTUS.
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