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Post by Zyobot on Mar 17, 2020 19:51:18 GMT
in case you're wondering (though that doesn't give people a license to wallow in germ-ridden filth like pigs). But i doubt that will stop some people. True. We'd soon see some yahoos who post photos and films of themselves wallowing in dumpsters or swimming through trash at the local dumping ground on social media for the whole world to see. Heh, maybe a few YouTubers could make their careers out of doing that, I dunno.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 17, 2020 19:57:58 GMT
But i doubt that will stop some people. True. We'd soon see some yahoos who post photos and films of themselves wallowing in dumpsters or swimming through trash at the local dumping ground on social media for the whole world to see. Heh, maybe a few YouTubers could make their careers out of doing that, I dunno. Is the immunity only for inside the body ore also outside the body like burns and stuff.
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Post by Zyobot on Mar 17, 2020 21:00:04 GMT
True. We'd soon see some yahoos who post photos and films of themselves wallowing in dumpsters or swimming through trash at the local dumping ground on social media for the whole world to see. Heh, maybe a few YouTubers could make their careers out of doing that, I dunno. Is the immunity only for inside the body ore also outside the body like burns and stuff. Good question. To not make humans more overkill than they already would be, maybe just infectious diseases rather than bodily injuries that fall into the same category as your examples.
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Post by Zyobot on Mar 18, 2020 21:12:04 GMT
‘1950 USSR To 2020’.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 19, 2020 3:49:54 GMT
Wonder how Stalin is going to react to this.
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Post by stevep on Mar 19, 2020 12:13:59 GMT
Wonder how Stalin is going to react to this.
Wonder how 2020 will react to him and to 1950 USSR. Especially since it includes current NATO/EU members like the Baltics. I could see a quick move to liberate them and possibly all of the USSR although that could open several cans of worms. - For instance with it being only 5 years after the end of the "Great Patriotic War" many Soviet subjects will be hostile to an invasion from the "fascist" west. Also the sheer size of the USSR coupled with the poor record of western interventions in recent history.
It would possibly also reopen the conflict in Syria as the regime has lost its most important supporter albeit it will still have Iran helping it.
Of course a lot of political and economic disruption across the world as trade links through the USSR are going to be cut totally, including all that oil and gas that much of Europe is relying on.
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Post by Zyobot on Mar 20, 2020 19:58:40 GMT
'2020 Canada To 1940'. I'm guessing it'd look essentially like redrobin65's Miles From Our Home TL, but with the dates tweaked slightly.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 20, 2020 21:34:51 GMT
'2020 Canada To 1940'. I'm guessing it'd look essentially like redrobin65's Miles From Our Home TL, but with the dates tweaked slightly. Think not much change is going to happen. Will this happen before May 1940 ore after.
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Post by stevep on Mar 21, 2020 12:18:34 GMT
'2020 Canada To 1940'. I'm guessing it'd look essentially like redrobin65's Miles From Our Home TL, but with the dates tweaked slightly. Think not much change is going to happen. Will this happen before May 1940 ore after.
The date would be a big issue. Before May 10th, preferably at least 2-3 weeks before and you could prevent the fall of France, if only by enabling the allies to surprise the German attack, at least once the Canadians manage to persuade the down time political leaders their genuine. After the fall of France and with Canadian forces fairly small but very advanced would make for a difficult fight but good boost for the allies.
Would also be interesting the interaction between modern Canada and 1940 US. The latter is still a markedly more populous nation but is now totally outclassed technologically which the isolationists won't like and there would be the huge social and cultural issues. [Also between Canada and Britain but there's an ocean in the way and Britain really, really needs Canadian support so that may be less dramatic in the short term].
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Post by Zyobot on Mar 22, 2020 0:03:04 GMT
‘2012 US To 1812’.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 22, 2020 7:20:39 GMT
Why not 1862 CSA to 1812.
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Post by Zyobot on Mar 22, 2020 10:01:08 GMT
Why not 1862 CSA to 1812. What about it?
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Post by lordroel on Mar 22, 2020 10:04:16 GMT
Why not 1862 CSA to 1812. What about it? Well it would be different but only 50 years away from tech and i see the CSA surviving as a independent major power being the big brother of what remains of 1812 USA.
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Post by stevep on Mar 22, 2020 10:17:49 GMT
Well it would be different but only 50 years away from tech and i see the CSA surviving as a independent major power being the big brother of what remains of 1812 USA.
It would definitely be interesting for all involved and I would expect war with Spain as the CSA includes both Florida and a larger part of New Spain aka Mexico as well as probably seeking to take California to secure access to the Pacific as well as the resources of the region.
Whether the CSA would support the rump US in attacking Canada and other British possessions or possibly seek to impose a peace that 'regains' W Virginia, Kentucky and other border slave states, or possibly take over the US in its entirety as most of the northern states still have slavery at this point, albeit dying out in many areas. They might alternatively leave the old northern eastern states but seek to secure much of the 'old NW' and points further west as elements from places like Kentucky were some of the most determined to crush the Indian populations of the region and you could see something akin to OTL US or even larger that is dominated by slavery. Which is a potentially very dark future.
Given their potential industrial power when they develop the shipping they could seek to maintain the Atlantic slave trade that European powers are increasingly trying to end and probably expand slavery further. There is the danger of them seeking to take over or win over assorted plantation islands in the Caribbean for instance - the latter option possibly means they support pr-slavery interests in Britain and elsewhere which could delay the ending of slavery in the British empire. Europe is likely to catch up technologically over the next couple of generations but it would affect a lot of the world and depending on what the south does could see Napoleon's empire surviving, at least for a while, which is likely to delay such a catch up. Your going to have power moving from Europe much earlier which is going to cause huge butterflies.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 22, 2020 10:23:32 GMT
Well it would be different but only 50 years away from tech and i see the CSA surviving as a independent major power being the big brother of what remains of 1812 USA. It would definitely be interesting for all involved and I would expect war with Spain as the CSA includes both Florida and a larger part of New Spain aka Mexico as well as probably seeking to take California to secure access to the Pacific as well as the resources of the region.
Whether the CSA would support the rump US in attacking Canada and other British possessions or possibly seek to impose a peace that 'regains' W Virginia, Kentucky and other border slave states, or possibly take over the US in its entirety as most of the northern states still have slavery at this point, albeit dying out in many areas. They might alternatively leave the old northern eastern states but seek to secure much of the 'old NW' and points further west as elements from places like Kentucky were some of the most determined to crush the Indian populations of the region and you could see something akin to OTL US or even larger that is dominated by slavery. Which is a potentially very dark future. Given their potential industrial power when they develop the shipping they could seek to maintain the Atlantic slave trade that European powers are increasingly trying to end and probably expand slavery further. There is the danger of them seeking to take over or win over assorted plantation islands in the Caribbean for instance - the latter option possibly means they support pr-slavery interests in Britain and elsewhere which could delay the ending of slavery in the British empire. Europe is likely to catch up technologically over the next couple of generations but it would affect a lot of the world and depending on what the south does could see Napoleon's empire surviving, at least for a while, which is likely to delay such a catch up. Your going to have power moving from Europe much earlier which is going to cause huge butterflies. Well the CSA 1862 and 1812 USA can make a deal, splitting up North America.
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