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Post by lordroel on Dec 1, 2019 9:30:05 GMT
One typo noticed in the WWII thread today.
A 'ton' missing here.
Also on a technical point while Southampton and Coventry would qualify as moderately sized cities Birmingham is the 2nd largest in England - see Birmingham for more details. Steve
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Post by stevep on Dec 3, 2019 11:45:52 GMT
Not saying its wrong but this bit from the WWII thread sounded a bit odd.
Given that there is a major fleet base at Alexandria and Malta is under siege and occasional bombardment so sending a damaged ship there seems like a strange idea?
Looking at the ship's Wiki entry, see HMS_Havock_in_WWII, it doesn't mention an accident but does actually say that there was "a refit in Malta from 22 December to 20 February 1941" - which does confirm it went to Malta for work so its probably accurate. That's in paragraph 4 of its WWII career. Two other times in 1941 the ship was damaged it was repaired in Alex. Possibly since Malta was the peace-time fleet base ships needed to go there for more serious damage?
Ironically looking at the Wiki for Valiant there seems to be less detail for it in WWII than for the Havock and nothing about a collision at all.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 3, 2019 14:57:26 GMT
Not saying its wrong but this bit from the WWII thread sounded a bit odd.
Given that there is a major fleet base at Alexandria and Malta is under siege and occasional bombardment so sending a damaged ship there seems like a strange idea? Looking at the ship's Wiki entry, see HMS_Havock_in_WWII, it doesn't mention an accident but does actually say that there was "a refit in Malta from 22 December to 20 February 1941" - which does confirm it went to Malta for work so its probably accurate. That's in paragraph 4 of its WWII career. Two other times in 1941 the ship was damaged it was repaired in Alex. Possibly since Malta was the peace-time fleet base ships needed to go there for more serious damage? Ironically looking at the Wiki for Valiant there seems to be less detail for it in WWII than for the Havock and nothing about a collision at all.
Do you also check Naval history net as i find on HMS Valiant timeline this: 3rd - Battleships VALIANT and BARHAM departed Alexandria for gunnery practices. As the battleships were setting out VALIANT was in collision with one of he escorts, the destroyer HAVOCK. The HAVOCK sustained damage forward. HAVOCK went to Malta for repairs.
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Post by stevep on Dec 4, 2019 19:43:02 GMT
Not saying its wrong but this bit from the WWII thread sounded a bit odd.
Given that there is a major fleet base at Alexandria and Malta is under siege and occasional bombardment so sending a damaged ship there seems like a strange idea? Looking at the ship's Wiki entry, see HMS_Havock_in_WWII, it doesn't mention an accident but does actually say that there was "a refit in Malta from 22 December to 20 February 1941" - which does confirm it went to Malta for work so its probably accurate. That's in paragraph 4 of its WWII career. Two other times in 1941 the ship was damaged it was repaired in Alex. Possibly since Malta was the peace-time fleet base ships needed to go there for more serious damage? Ironically looking at the Wiki for Valiant there seems to be less detail for it in WWII than for the Havock and nothing about a collision at all.
Do you also check Naval history net as i find on HMS Valiant timeline this: 3rd - Battleships VALIANT and BARHAM departed Alexandria for gunnery practices. As the battleships were setting out VALIANT was in collision with one of he escorts, the destroyer HAVOCK. The HAVOCK sustained damage forward. HAVOCK went to Malta for repairs.
OK thanks. I didn't check that so it does sound like the Wiki entry is somewhat inaccurate. Thanks.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 4, 2019 19:47:20 GMT
Do you also check Naval history net as i find on HMS Valiant timeline this: 3rd - Battleships VALIANT and BARHAM departed Alexandria for gunnery practices. As the battleships were setting out VALIANT was in collision with one of he escorts, the destroyer HAVOCK. The HAVOCK sustained damage forward. HAVOCK went to Malta for repairs.
OK thanks. I didn't check that so it does sound like the Wiki entry is somewhat inaccurate. Thanks.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 5, 2019 16:24:42 GMT
As we get closer and closer to the Battle of the Falklands, it seems that SMS Scharnhorst has been discovered off Falklands
Photo: A radar image shows the wreckage of the SMS Scharnhorst, sunk by British battlecruisers during the Battle of the Falklands on December 8th 1914 |
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Post by stevep on Dec 6, 2019 9:57:19 GMT
As we get closer and closer to the Battle of the Falklands, it seems that SMS Scharnhorst has been discovered off Falklands
Photo: A radar image shows the wreckage of the SMS Scharnhorst, sunk by British battlecruisers during the Battle of the Falklands on December 8th 1914
Very interesting and looks like the wreak is in good condition for a ship that was pounded so heavily and sunk over a century ago.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 6, 2019 14:05:31 GMT
As we get closer and closer to the Battle of the Falklands, it seems that SMS Scharnhorst has been discovered off Falklands
Photo: A radar image shows the wreckage of the SMS Scharnhorst, sunk by British battlecruisers during the Battle of the Falklands on December 8th 1914 Very interesting and looks like the wreak is in good condition for a ship that was pounded so heavily and sunk over a century ago. Could this mean Gneisenau, the light cruisers SMS Nürnberg, Dresden and Leipzig are also nearby and might be found in the near future. |
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Post by stevep on Dec 6, 2019 16:57:59 GMT
Very interesting and looks like the wreak is in good condition for a ship that was pounded so heavily and sunk over a century ago. Could this mean Gneisenau, the light cruisers SMS Nürnberg, Dresden and Leipzig are also nearby and might be found in the near future.
Possibly although might depend on the water depth, water conditions and how badly they were hammered before they went down. Also something sunk in shallow water might suffer worse, either from more biological impact or possibly even damage from say trawling if in a fishing area say.
Actually the Dresden escaped, albeit being caught the following year.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 6, 2019 17:14:04 GMT
Could this mean Gneisenau, the light cruisers SMS Nürnberg, Dresden and Leipzig are also nearby and might be found in the near future. Possibly although might depend on the water depth, water conditions and how badly they were hammered before they went down. Also something sunk in shallow water might suffer worse, either from more biological impact or possibly even damage from say trawling if in a fishing area say. Actually the Dresden escaped, albeit being caught the following year.
A forgot about the Dresden, should have known as she will appear for a while in the upcoming updates, but it will end almost 120 days of German raiding for a while. |
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Post by stevep on Dec 7, 2019 10:35:16 GMT
On the WWII site today's entry seems to be a copy of that for the 28th Nov. It was the death of Helmut Wick that rang a bell and having located his death on the 28th Nov it looks like most/all of today's post is a copy of that? Remember you saying you set thing up about a week beforehand so wondering if wires have been crossed and you posted it again today?
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Post by lordroel on Dec 7, 2019 10:55:31 GMT
On the WWII site today's entry seems to be a copy of that for the 28th Nov. It was the death of Helmut Wick that rang a bell and having located his death on the 28th Nov it looks like most/all of today's post is a copy of that? Remember you saying you set thing up about a week beforehand so wondering if wires have been crossed and you posted it again today? Steve
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Post by stevep on Dec 8, 2019 11:20:39 GMT
On the WWI thread there is a small typo. In the last paragraph you have
I suspect it should be only 5% hit?
Thanks for fixing yesterday's WWII thread.
Steve
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Post by lordroel on Dec 8, 2019 12:37:46 GMT
On the WWI thread there is a small typo. In the last paragraph you have
I suspect it should be only 5% hit?
Thanks for fixing yesterday's WWII thread.
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Post by stevep on Dec 10, 2019 13:34:27 GMT
On the WWI thread you have:
Suspect you mean either miles or kilometers? Otherwise millimeters would be a very limited advance indeed.  
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