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Post by stevep on Aug 1, 2021 20:02:49 GMT
In reference to today's WWI post:
Just to check your aware that until 1925 Christiana was the name for Oslo?
On yesterday's WWII post - didn't read it until this morning.
Much better day for the allies. Good to see the U boats taking a pounding.  - Although they have more success the following day.  Also
That takes some nerve especially for MacArthur as it was his plan to withdraw into Bataan not Wainright's! Steve
Regarding Christiana in the World War I update, will add Oslo to it. About MacArthur, MacArthur is MacArthur and he thinks only about him and his image, blaming others for his failure and preventing others from getting glory he thinks belong to him, is what he can do best.
As long as your aware of it. Probably been mentioned several times before but never thought of it before today.
Unfortunately with MacArthur there's too many people like that and possibly because of those character flaws too many seem to gain influence and power. |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 5, 2021 15:00:10 GMT
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Post by stevep on Aug 5, 2021 15:06:42 GMT
I must admit I've noticed it but not actually got around to looking at the videos. However thanks again for the effort.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 5, 2021 15:10:28 GMT
I must admit I've noticed it but not actually got around to looking at the videos. However thanks again for the effort.
Well as they already have said, it is the offical prequel to the Great War, except the French lost and had no backing of the British, but i wonder if the Prussians moved true Belgium, would the British get also involved. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 6, 2021 9:57:32 GMT
I must admit I've noticed it but not actually got around to looking at the videos. However thanks again for the effort.
Well as they already have said, it is the offical prequel to the Great War, except the French lost and had no backing of the British, but i wonder if the Prussians moved true Belgium, would the British get also involved.
Difficult to tell. They would be concerned, especially if it looked like Prussia intended to keep the region or part of. However Germany isn't the economic giant it was later with a significant naval challenge to Britain and Bismarck had maneuvered Napoleon III into the actual declaration of war and also many were initially expecting France would win, or at least it would be a close fight. Also at the time Gladstone was in his 1st term as PM, starting in 1868 and busy with domestic matter so coupled with his general opposition of military action and the speed with which Germany effectively won I suspect there wouldn't be time. Bismarck was too canny to allow matters like Belgium to risk a confrontation with Britain and also the Germans had no need to [or plan for as far as I'm aware] breach Belgium neutrality, which would have looks bad for them diplomatically.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 6, 2021 10:04:16 GMT
Well as they already have said, it is the offical prequel to the Great War, except the French lost and had no backing of the British, but i wonder if the Prussians moved true Belgium, would the British get also involved. Difficult to tell. They would be concerned, especially if it looked like Prussia intended to keep the region or part of. However Germany isn't the economic giant it was later with a significant naval challenge to Britain and Bismarck had maneuvered Napoleon III into the actual declaration of war and also many were initially expecting France would win, or at least it would be a close fight. Also at the time Gladstone was in his 1st term as PM, starting in 1868 and busy with domestic matter so coupled with his general opposition of military action and the speed with which Germany effectively won I suspect there wouldn't be time. Bismarck was too canny to allow matters like Belgium to risk a confrontation with Britain and also the Germans had no need to [or plan for as far as I'm aware] breach Belgium neutrality, which would have looks bad for them diplomatically.
Well would be a interesting What If, a World War I in 1870 with the French, British and if Austria-Hungary wants some payback for their loss 4 years earlier against Prussia. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 6, 2021 10:15:18 GMT
Difficult to tell. They would be concerned, especially if it looked like Prussia intended to keep the region or part of. However Germany isn't the economic giant it was later with a significant naval challenge to Britain and Bismarck had maneuvered Napoleon III into the actual declaration of war and also many were initially expecting France would win, or at least it would be a close fight. Also at the time Gladstone was in his 1st term as PM, starting in 1868 and busy with domestic matter so coupled with his general opposition of military action and the speed with which Germany effectively won I suspect there wouldn't be time. Bismarck was too canny to allow matters like Belgium to risk a confrontation with Britain and also the Germans had no need to [or plan for as far as I'm aware] breach Belgium neutrality, which would have looks bad for them diplomatically.
Well would be a interesting What If, a World War I in 1870 with the French, British and if Austria-Hungary wants some payback for their loss 4 years earlier against Prussia.
It could be a bit complicated then although it would depend on how quickly the other powers joined. However Bismarck had achieved a relatively moderate peace with Austria, at least territoriality, although it destroyed the empire's claims to leadership of Germany. Plus IIRC he had organised an agreement with Russia that it would oppose Austria so it could end up as a proto WWI about 45 years earlier and with different side. I.e. France, Britain & Austria v Prussia/Germany and Russia. Probably with the Ottomans coming in against Russia but not sure what Italy might do. It has territorial claims on both Austria and France but clashing with both and also with Britain given its reliance on coastal and overseas trade could mean it sits out the war.
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Post by stevep on Aug 11, 2021 15:32:33 GMT
One small quibble with today's WWII post. One of the picture captions says:
That WWII HMS Eagle was a lone ship, see HMS_Eagle_(1918), converted from a battleship hull taken over from Chile. A later, post WWII CV, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Eagle_(R05) was one of the Audacious class. I suspect this was an error in the original post rather than your but just to clarify.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 11, 2021 15:37:20 GMT
One small quibble with today's WWII post. One of the picture captions says:
That WWII HMS Eagle was a lone ship, see HMS_Eagle_(1918), converted from a battleship hull taken over from Chile. A later, post WWII CV, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Eagle_(R05) was one of the Audacious class. I suspect this was an error in the original post rather than your but just to clarify. Steve
A, well the troll who pulled the pic of from Wikipedia will as punishment have to make a life size version of HMS Eagle out of bamboo. I will edit it. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 15, 2021 10:40:21 GMT
On today's WWI thread I loved the "there was unfortunately a war on" comment. You would have thought that the Admiralty would have realised that, especially after Jutland. More seriously sounds like some anally retardant bureaucrat being the sort of idiot they often are.
If I didn't know what happens it would be looking good for the allies currently but Haig and co. will continue to over-extend while ignoring the lessons and Brusilov really needed to call an end to his offensive before things go pear shaped.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 15, 2021 11:06:37 GMT
On today's WWI thread I loved the "there was unfortunately a war on" comment. You would have thought that the Admiralty would have realised that, especially after Jutland. More seriously sounds like some anally retardant bureaucrat being the sort of idiot they often are. Steve
Seems even in war the once sitting behind the desk want to account every bullet and shell being fired. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 16, 2021 10:17:16 GMT
On today's WWII post one small point. At the end under the Guadalcanal heading the last paragraph is actually about a U boat operating off Palestine.
Interesting that the Japanese thought most of the US troops had been withdrawn. I knew they never sent enough forces to really threaten the US position there but had assumed either that that was all they could ship or possibly because of their easy earlier victories they were way too overconfident concerning what their men could achieve. That they actually didn't realise how many defenders there were actually makes more sense.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 16, 2021 16:06:55 GMT
On today's WWII post one small point. At the end under the Guadalcanal heading the last paragraph is actually about a U boat operating off Palestine. Thanks, will edit it. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Aug 19, 2021 10:31:31 GMT
Now we have reached the Dieppe Raid, which is the precursor to D-Day that will happen two years later.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 19, 2021 11:30:57 GMT
Now we have reached the Dieppe Raid, which is the precursor to D-Day that will happen two years later. Please, no spoilers, you are right, I hope the lose of men was worth the lesson they would apply in 1944. |
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- Although they have more success the following day. 
