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Post by ricobirch on Mar 30, 2019 16:22:44 GMT
Ruh-roh Shaggy!
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Post by raunchel on Mar 30, 2019 16:35:43 GMT
And that's one reason why biological weapons are the very definition of insanity. And also why you will want to make sure that your enemies don't bomb such facilities. But unfortunately, the Russian government has a deep love of secrecy.
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Post by hussar01 on Mar 30, 2019 17:30:39 GMT
great twist!
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Post by James G on Mar 30, 2019 19:11:54 GMT
Maybe. Though in this case - but what Forcon does with this is up to him - I would suggest thermobarics would be best in that scenario should a real contagion take out which starts at runaway chain of infection. Quarantine is best I think. A harsh quarantine too with no one leaving a definded area no matter what. Do the Russians have their own version of the MOAB. Russia has been used thermobarics and fuel-air bombs throughout the war. They have their own version of the MOAB, yes. The Father Of All Bombs was tested in 2007 and, naturally, bigger than the American's big Mother Of All Bombs.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 30, 2019 19:16:43 GMT
Do the Russians have their own version of the MOAB. Russia has been used thermobarics and fuel-air bombs throughout the war. They have their own version of the MOAB, yes. The Father Of All Bombs was tested in 2007 and, naturally, bigger than the American's big Mother Of All Bombs. A yes, this one it seems, can do a lot of damage if it is drop onto its target.
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Post by archangel on Mar 30, 2019 23:24:35 GMT
Given the need for airports working to keep the economy working, the Seattle airport will be repaired as soon as feasible. The need to contain the virus will be a severe strain for the less than functional Russian economy and will delay Russia's recovery (at least in the area affected). Regarding Syria, if the situation evolves into an occupation, it is advisable to fix the Sykes-Picot agreement and split the country into more coherent and stable countries for Alawites, Druzes, Kurds and Sunni Arabs. It would never be a perfect solution (borders would have to be decided), but long term it would be better for the regional stability of the Middle East.
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Post by James G on Mar 30, 2019 23:35:55 GMT
Given the need for airports working to keep the economy working, Seattle airport will be repaired as soon as feasible. The need to contain the virus will be a severe strain for the less than functional Russian economy and will delay Russia's recovery (at least in the area affected). Regarding Syria, i the situation evolves into an occupation, it is advisable to fix the Sykes-Picot lunacy and split the country into more coherent and stable countries for Alawites, Druzes, Kurds and Sunni Arabs. Never a perfect solution (borders would have to be decided), but long term better for the regional stability. The bio weapons leak is a long running matter which will factor into the long term aspect of the story in many ways. There will be no short term fix there, certainly. Syria is being invaded by not just American forces - and not that many of them - but by Israel. There unfortunately isn't going to be a pretty solution there either.
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Post by James G on Mar 31, 2019 17:34:54 GMT
One Hundred and Twelve
Taliban gunmen struck all across Kabul in a coordinated attack. Carrying assault rifles and grenades, while wearing explosive suicide vests, they made quite the daring attack when they attempted to raid a total of eight sites across the Afghan capital. Due to other activities elsewhere in the country in the preceding and following days, back home in the United States the American’s would call this the ‘Taliban’s Tet’. The reference was to what happened in Vietnam back in 1968 with the Viet Cong. The attack against the American Embassy was what made that name used in regard to this series of attacks. However, unlike Saigon forty-two years ago, the embassy didn’t fall to armed insurgents. US Marine guards drove the Taliban off. There were explosions and deaths but the intention to storm the embassy in a propaganda blow like no other failed.
Elsewhere in Kabul, the Taliban met other failures yet some successes too.
They were unable to get into ISAF’s headquarters (an administrative base rather than the field headquarters) across the road from the embassy nor the Presidential Palace which was the official residence of Hamad Karzai. Yet, they did get into the grounds of the Turkish Embassy and the Inter-Continental Hotel: the latter home to many diplomats and high-ranking visitors. Two police stations were successfully attacked as well as the offices of one of the main television networks. Dozens of deaths occurred, hostage situations happened and there were plenty of explosions. Most of those killed were Afghans. However, Westerners lay dead too with diplomats and military personnel killed. The fighting went on through most of August 17th until the last gunman blew himself up inside the large hotel ahead of a final assault against him by ISAF troops: Afghan security forces had hours beforehand decided that this fight wasn’t for them.
ISAF soldiers rushed into Kabul during and after the attacks to join those already in the fight. Among them were Turkish soldiers. The defence of the capital was under the control of Turkish military forces assigned to Regional Command Capital. This was an ISAF formation, not something directly tied to NATO. The Turks had long been involved in the ISAF mission and they had stayed in Kabul – like soldiers from many other countries not part of the Coalition who fought the Russians on Afghanistan’s northern borders – despite the major split between their homeland and its erstwhile allies. The raid on the Turkish Embassy was ultimately unsuccessful for the Taliban but they did take over part of the building before being driven out and also killed many Turks. What later results this would bring for the state of Turkish-NATO/Coalition elations wasn’t something they cared for much.
Apart from the Turks, there were many others who fought in Kabul today. American national guardsmen from the 86th Infantry Brigade Combat Team – home-based in Vermont but with personnel from across New England – were in the capital and so too were Polish troops with their 25th Air Cavalry Brigade. Those Poles still wanted to go home but were being transferred from eastern Afghanistan to the frontlines in the north, going via Kabul, when the Taliban struck. Australians, Frenchman and Hungarians were among those who rushed small numbers of men around the city today as well. The Taliban strike teams – less than a hundred men over all – had no chance when faced with such insurmountable odds.
What happened in Kabul was important for several reasons. Chief among them was the fact that the Taliban remained able to do something like this and were able to, even in a crushing defeat, claim a victory. At the same time, Turkish forces had fought side-by-side among Coalition troops despite the complete schism between the two sides when it came to other matters… such as Turkey walking away from its NATO commitments and leaving them right in the sticky stuff. Would this matter in the long run?
Polish troops which moved through Kabul were on their way to the Afghan-Turkmen border. The fighting had spread away from the frontiers with the CSTO nations of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan to Turkmenistan now. Hard-pressed on their flank, American and British forces under the command of the US I Corps needed that reinforcement. There remained fighting in their rear – Kabul was only one event on one day – and the Poles had been taking part in that but General McChrystal sent the Poles to the frontlines because that need was more pressing. As had been the case elsewhere along Afghanistan’s northern borders, what began as long-range air attacks soon became cross-border shelling and then cross-border fighting. Russian-commanded Turkmen forces engaged what few US Army troops had been covering that sector of the border and outnumbered them fast. McChrystal believed that the Poles could do the job of keeping the Russians and their allies out of Afghanistan.
While ISAF focused on securing the border against any possible proper attack into Afghanistan, nothing like that was anywhere on the cards. Fighting at the front, even as it spread southwest like it did, was all that could be done with the limited forces in theatre at the disposal of the Russians. On paper they had immense numbers of men yet there remained that unease among the governments through Central Asia at this war. They continued to assert that they were only undertaking a defensive mission in support of Tajikistan and couldn’t support any real offensive action. From Astana, Bishkek, Dushanbe, Tashkent and now Ashgabat the regimes maintained this common position in the face of what Moscow might or not want. Russia had been taken quite by surprise at how fast this unity came among countries which were often at odds with each other. Kazakhstan was at the head of this alliance but things were quiet equal among the five countries involved. There was no outward hostility towards Russia but none were willing to be dominated once again by their former colonial overlords when it came to this matter. Aware of this, there was talk in Moscow among the Russian Security Council of doing some about it. Yet that wouldn’t happen now. The whole bloc could fall apart and ISAF could roll northwards.
From each side, the fear of outright invasion by the other remained despite neither option being possible.
In the skies above the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) of Pakistan, American drones were busy today. There were Predators and Reapers flown by the US Air Force up in Afghanistan but these here over Pakistan were CIA-operated. Two Reapers undertook attack missions in Waziristan where they targeted ‘terrorists’. Hellfire missiles blazed away from the drones and blew up small structures, family homes. There was no Pakistani involvement in this. The targets for those missiles weren’t just the Taliban people believed to be inside the buildings blown up. At each of them, inside were also believed to be agents of the GRU in one and the SVR in another. Russian intelligence officers were known to be active in the FATA. The lines of communication for ISAF to the sea crossed through this volatile region and were (rightly) regarded as being something that Russia would like to see targeted. Intelligence had come to the CIA stating that the Russians were active here aiming to pay the Taliban – with cash or arms – to strike at supply columns here in Pakistan rather than just inside Afghanistan. Using the drone-fired Hellfires was done to put at least a dent in that Russian plot, hopefully knock it out for good if maybe the CIA had enough luck.
Back at Langley, a complex still with those holes in it after those Russian cruise missiles had struck last week, CIA Director Panetta would have had his drones over another part of Pakistan firing Hellfires if he had known where to send them. It had been almost nine years since 9-11 and Osama bin Laden, the architect of that attack, remained on the run. Unknown to Panetta or his employees, bin Laden was in Abbottabad: some distance away to the east from the FATA. It was from there where he had watched as Russia and NATO had set themselves on a collision course for war. Many ideas had swept through his mind as to how this could be exploited yet none had come to fruition yet. He had made a video recording – his first in years; there had been audio recording but not videos – instead and today it was released. Rise up and take advantage, bin Laden called upon the faithful, and strike against the enemies of Islam where you can find them. First broadcast on the Qatar-based al Jazeera television station, copies of it would be shared across websites worldwide. It didn’t look like it wasn’t going to set the world on fire and was the ‘standard’ stuff from bin Laden.
However, there were those watching and waiting for such a signal to spring into action. In the middle of a world war, al Qaeda was soon to launch a major terrorist attack all while the intelligence services of the West were as distracted as they were. Where and in what form would soon be revealed.
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Post by James G on Mar 31, 2019 17:36:52 GMT
The Taliban attack above might seem a bit beyond them after the war had ben raging for so long. They pulled off a massive strike like this in Kabul in early 2011 though, even with all ISAF attention on them and not fighting Russia.
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Post by hussar01 on Mar 31, 2019 18:34:21 GMT
The Marburg twist. And intersting set of misunderstandings can develop here. What is NATO, unaware of the whole Marburg incident, attacks forces trying to clean the mess up and establish quarantines. Could the Russians then, unaware that NATO has no clue, think that NATO knows what happens and is purposely retarding their efforts. This interpretation can some cause some to think NATO is exercising biological warfare by default? There is a lot of material here for some great mis-undersatnding and this realy creates lots of possible situations. Also the Russian media to get wind that something is wrong and whips up Russians to blame NATO where the central authority afraid to admit the truth? Lots of fun with this twist.
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Post by James G on Apr 1, 2019 8:39:18 GMT
The Marburg twist. And intersting set of misunderstandings can develop here. What is NATO, unaware of the whole Marburg incident, attacks forces trying to clean the mess up and establish quarantines. Could the Russians then, unaware that NATO has no clue, think that NATO knows what happens and is purposely retarding their efforts. This interpretation can some cause some to think NATO is exercising biological warfare by default? There is a lot of material here for some great mis-undersatnding and this realy creates lots of possible situations. Also the Russian media to get wind that something is wrong and whips up Russians to blame NATO where the central authority afraid to admit the truth? Lots of fun with this twist. There are plenty of possibilities and some 'fun' ideas here. We'll have to see where Forcon goes with this.
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Post by forcon on Apr 1, 2019 16:43:03 GMT
Interlude Two
Somewhere in Estonia
Hidden from the raging summer thunderstorm by thick undergrowth, Captain Jack Hastings wriggled in his position, barely daring to move. He had only recently realised just how exhausted he truly was, and just how tired his men must have been. They’d been surviving, albeit barely, since the first day of the war. Running through the Estonian countryside, reporting enemy troop movements up the chain of command and waiting patiently for the promised team of Green Berets to show up to assist them. They’d been told they would be getting Special Forces support ‘very soon’, but that had been a week ago now.
The whole brigade had been overrun on the first day of the fighting. Many were dead and yet more had captured. The battalion had taken a stand in the forest. They’d fought well, right up until the end. Hit with tanks and airpower and artillery, the paratroopers had resisted determinedly with their carbines, light machineguns, and anti-tank missiles. When Russian mechanised infantry units had dismounted to clear the woodlands, Hastings had directed his company based on the orders being passed down from battalion. They’d beaten back the first wave of dismounted infantry at the mouth of the woodlands. And the second.
There had been a pause after that. Russian artillery opened fire immediately after the first wave of infantry stopped. It was like hell itself had been unleashed upon the brigade. All Hastings, a trained and experienced leader, could do was cower in his foxhole and pray that his men were doing the same. The 2nd Brigade’s artillery, light 105mm guns, were hopelessly ineffective against Russian 152mm guns and 220mm MLRS launchers. It had been a relief when the next ground attack had come, for it meant that the bombardment was over.
BMP-2s fired their cannons from the treeline, pouring down gunfire onto the American positions, while their infantry ran forward. The whole thing seemed like a modernised version of the stories that his grandfather would tell him about Korea, with wave upon wave of enemy infantry charging towards Allied positions. The Russians had heavy fire support though, and he’d seen Su-25s roaring overhead, searching for the battalion command post. A huge series of explosions to the west indicated that the bombers had found what they were looking for.
When they had finally been overrun, it had been because the Russians had sent their light armour into the woodlands. They were unable to manoeuvre, but at this point Hasting’s company had run out of Javelins, and could do little with their personal weapons. BMPs and BTRs had simply driven over the American paratroopers, strafing their positions with gunfire as they advanced. Men who tried to surrender were shot dead, but the Russians didn’t send infantry into the foxholes to clear them individually, in their haste to move west.
Hastings had tried to tell his men to play dead, to lie down in their positions and wait for the column to pass. Communications were badly effected by enemy jamming, and he had to physically holler the words down the line, meaning that his orders reached few of the men. When the Russians finally passed, Captain Hastings had gathered up the survivors. There were only seventeen of them from his company. He was the senior officer; the XO was dead, as were two of the three platoon leaders.
The other platoon leader, Second Lieutenant Cahill, had taken several pieces of shrapnel to his shoulder and right arm, but would live; he had not complained at all through their escape and evasion despite his injury. There was one other officer, an Air Force second lieutenant assigned to the company to direct in air support. The remainder were a mixture of privates and non-coms. A dozen more soldiers from different companies had been found as Hastings led the survivors of Charlie Company down the line.
He had been determined to get them all through it. The loss of most of his men had hit him hard, but he had known that it wasn’t his fault. He’d blamed himself for the deaths of men in Afghanistan before, but this time, what had happened had been almost inevitable. They had been put in a terrible position, fighting on foot against enemy armour. What had the brass expected in sending them here?
Regardless, he soldiered on. They had a radio, they had weapons, and they had rations to last them a few days. That would do. Evading through the countryside, they had been taken in by a kind farmer, of all people an ethnic Russian rather than an Estonian! The farmer allowed the soldiers to stay in his barn and had even managed to scrape together a meagre meal for them. They had had to leave eventually though; the farmer did not want his family put at any more risk, and Hastings respected that. He had already risked death or torture and imprisonment by helping the escaping Americans for that short period of time.
Running low on food, Hastings had had his men ambush an enemy supply column; the three trucks had been easy prey for the vengeful American soldiers. No prisoners could be taken. None of Hastings men would deliberately take prisoners with the intention of executing them, but men who were attempting to surrender had been cut down where they stood.
Hiding beneath the brush from the miserable rain, and soaked in grime, dirt and summer sweat, Captain Hastings tried to imagine he was in a better place. This was going to be a very long war indeed.
* POW Camp 13, Denmark
Dmitri Golovko, as a Captain Second Rank, was so far one of the highest ranking Russian officers that NATO had successfully captured. When his destroyer, Nastoychivyy, had been sunk during the Battle of the Baltic Sea, Golovko had spent some hours floating aboard a life raft overcrowded with a dozen other sailors, the few survivors of the engagement. He was proud of his men; they had sunk a Royal Navy frigate before being hit by several Harpoon missiles.
Even when the order had been given to abandon ship, they had acted professionally and valiantly, saving many of the wounded. They’d been drifting through toe water as the naval battle raged on, watching missiles stream overhead and hearing distant explosions from over the horizon. The wait for rescue had been truly agonising.
When it came, it came in the form of several US Navy Seahawk helicopters. A pair of armed sailors watched over the Russians as they were lifted from their rafts into the aircraft, flown back to the relative safety of several different NATO ships. Golovko and his officers had been separated from the others and given a brief tactical interrogation by the Americans. They were fairly polite, reasonable men. There was a bit of shouting and a few veiled threats, but the US Navy commander interrogating Golovko aboard the destroyer was no CIA torturer. A hot meal, warm clothes, and a cigarette had gotten more useful information out of the wounded executive officer, but even then little of use had been gained by the Americans.
Golovko had then been flown back to Denmark. There, things got somewhat worse. The Danes, like the Americans, were not torturers or criminals. They were professional soldiers and officers, bound by the laws of war. However, the Danes had seen much of their capital city raised to the ground in fighting with Russian marines, and there was an extraordinarily high number of civilian fatalities too. The Danes were vengeful. As Golovko was taken off of a helicopter at a Danish Army base, one of his guards deliberately tripped him up, sending him sprawling onto the ground. He was then handcuffed tightly, painfully, for his ‘escape attempt’. When taken to a prison cell, a couple of Danish soldiers had come in and shoved him around. They hadn’t outright beaten him, but threats had been made and he was spit on. Then a Danish officer came in and berated the soldiers, who scurried away. The Dane apologised for the incident; Golovko suspected it might be a ploy to get him to warm up to the officer who had ‘rescued’ him.
One thing Golovko was happy to note was the lack of Army officers here. He had been allowed to mingle with other prisoners in a courtyard, and found that there were a few naval officers and one or two army officers, but the overwhelming majority of POWs here in Denmark were from the air force or the naval infantry. That was good, he figured. If NATO was on the offensive, there would be a larger number of Army prisoners as units were overrun. Instead, however, he learned that the naval infantry had lost on Zealand, with heavy casualties, but that the army was still advancing in Poland.
* Gloucestershire, England
Riley was miserable.
There was nothing else to say. He was thoroughly miserable, morbid, depressed, angry, and even jealous. He was smoking out of the window, surveying a field which lay behind the garden of his aunt’s countryside dwelling, located in Gloucestershire. He had moved here the morning that the war had started with his parents, as they decided it was safer than London.
That illusion had been shattered by the trails of several cruise missiles flying through the night sky and then descending onto RAF Fairford. By now, though, public transport was and roads were under government control, and even this close to Fairford, this quaint little village was still probably safer than London.
Every night, there had been aircraft flying overhead. Jet fighters and bombers flew overhead almost constantly, and sometimes so did Russian cruise missiles headed for targets within the United Kingdom. Occasionally, the distant thudding of missiles impacting could be heard in the dead of night. Facebook and Twitter were mostly functional, but that first night of the war had been terrifying because most social media sties had gone down; he had spent hours trying to contact Alex and Emily and all the others…Eventually he had gotten through and found that they were safe.
Most of them had left London before it had begun or just afterwards, but a few remained. Riley kind of wished that if nuclear war did occur, he could be in London, right under the first bomb to detonate. Above all though, Riley wished to be with his friends.
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Post by James G on Apr 1, 2019 16:53:10 GMT
Absolutely cracking work there! Brilliant job.
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Post by oldbleep on Apr 1, 2019 21:20:47 GMT
even this close to Fairford, this quaint little village was still probably safer than London. Royal Air Force Fairford is an RAF station in Gloucestershire. It is the US Air Force's only European airfield for heavy bombers.
RAF Fairford was the only TransOceanic Abort Landing site for NASA's Space Shuttle in the UK. As well as having a sufficiently long runway for a shuttle landing (the runway is 3,046 m (9,993 ft) long), it also had NASA-trained fire and medical crews stationed on the airfield. The runway is rated with an unrestricted load-bearing capacity, meaning that it can support any aircraft with any type of load.
With reference to the NATO strike on the Russian Biological Weapons plant was it by chance the Institute of Ultra Pure Biochemical Preparations?
Vladimir Artemovich Pasechnik, was a senior Soviet biologist and bioweaponeer who defected to the United Kingdom in 1989, alerting Western intelligence to the vast scope of Moscow's clandestine biological warfare (BW) program, known as Biopreparat. His revelations that the program was ten times larger than previously suspected were confirmed in 1992 with the defection to the United States of Colonel Kanatjan Alibekov, the No. 2 scientist for the program. In 1974, at the age of 37, Pasechnik was invited by a general from the Soviet Ministry of Defence to start his own biotechnology institute in Leningrad and he was given "an unlimited budget" to buy equipment in the West and recruit the best staff available. The laboratory he created was in reality part of the countrywide Biopreparat program. Known as the Institute of Ultra Pure Biochemical Preparations, it was to work on a strain of plague. The team succeeded in producing an aerosolized version of the plague microbe that could survive outside a lab. This version of the organism was genetically-engineered to be resistant to antibiotics.
I look forward to the next instalment.
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Post by James G on Apr 1, 2019 21:49:39 GMT
even this close to Fairford, this quaint little village was still probably safer than London. Royal Air Force Fairford is an RAF station in Gloucestershire. It is the US Air Force's only European airfield for heavy bombers. RAF Fairford was the only TransOceanic Abort Landing site for NASA's Space Shuttle in the UK. As well as having a sufficiently long runway for a shuttle landing (the runway is 3,046 m (9,993 ft) long), it also had NASA-trained fire and medical crews stationed on the airfield. The runway is rated with an unrestricted load-bearing capacity, meaning that it can support any aircraft with any type of load. With reference to the NATO strike on the Russian Biological Weapons plant was it by chance the Institute of Ultra Pure Biochemical Preparations? Vladimir Artemovich Pasechnik, was a senior Soviet biologist and bioweaponeer who defected to the United Kingdom in 1989, alerting Western intelligence to the vast scope of Moscow's clandestine biological warfare (BW) program, known as Biopreparat. His revelations that the program was ten times larger than previously suspected were confirmed in 1992 with the defection to the United States of Colonel Kanatjan Alibekov, the No. 2 scientist for the program. In 1974, at the age of 37, Pasechnik was invited by a general from the Soviet Ministry of Defence to start his own biotechnology institute in Leningrad and he was given "an unlimited budget" to buy equipment in the West and recruit the best staff available. The laboratory he created was in reality part of the countrywide Biopreparat program. Known as the Institute of Ultra Pure Biochemical Preparations, it was to work on a strain of plague. The team succeeded in producing an aerosolized version of the plague microbe that could survive outside a lab. This version of the organism was genetically-engineered to be resistant to antibiotics. I look forward to the next instalment. Forcon was in-character with a fictional character he introduced in a pre-war update. It is a kid who witnessed rioting in London so even with all the jets, the countryside seems quieter. You're right about Fairford being an important place. I put the 457th AEW there with three squadrons of bombers attached: one of B-1s, two of BUFFs. Some of the B-2 missions have gone through there too with special shelters for them set up. A whole load of bomb missions have been run from Fairford! (Fairford has been in almost all of my war stories, even non-war stories: I went to an air show there as a kid) That sounds very likely with the bio plant. It is through one front organisation then another then another and so on. I've read about the Soviet / Russian bio weapons programme before. They have reportedly made some very nasty stuff. So much of it will be unknown too: no name that the West knows of, let alone any counter because it has never been seen before. The Russians are putting poison in bullets for special ops forces and for assassination units. When shot with this stuff, those hit are dying horrible deaths with nothing able to stop this. It is all originally Biopreparat related too. The next update is an event in Nevada.
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