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Dark Earth Orders of Battle Jun 27, 2020 12:02:12 GMT

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Jun 27, 2020 11:57:59 GMT simon darkshade said:

The South American arms race is kicking off again in the mid 1960s.

A so the Americans and British can sell some news ships then, ore do these two countries produce their own capital ships these days.

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None of the South American powers is really up to building modern warships over 1500t, lacking a sophisticated shipbuilding industry.

Countries capable of building capital ships in the post WW2 era: USA, USSR, Britain, France, China, Japan, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Spain, Netherlands, Austria-Hungary, Canada, India, Australia and Mexico.
Note that this is theoretical capability, rather than those powers that actually have built them. Some will never build a capital ship again, having been priced and sized out of the running.

That leaves Greece and Turkey in some interesting situations when and if they eventually seek to replace their heavies.

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Dark Earth Orders of Battle Jun 27, 2020 12:28:20 GMT

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Jun 27, 2020 12:19:29 GMT simon darkshade said:

None of the South American powers is really up to building modern warships over 1500t, lacking a sophisticated shipbuilding industry.

Countries capable of building capital ships in the post WW2 era: USA, USSR, Britain, France, China, Japan, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Spain, Netherlands, Austria-Hungary, Canada, India, Australia and Mexico.
Note that this is theoretical capability, rather than those powers that actually have built them. Some will never build a capital ship again, having been priced and sized out of the running.

That leaves Greece and Turkey in some interesting situations when and if they eventually seek to replace their heavies.

Is that a typo as that's not really any larger than a standard OTL WWII destroyer. In the larger DE I would suspect even 15,000ton would probably be in their capacity although that's still a fairly small cruiser here.

A lot would depend on how long BBs or even BBBs would be militarily viable as well as the economic positions and perceived threats to the assorted powers as to which build new capital ships. Especially as they get larger and larger that both reduces the number of nations that can construct and support them and their military utility.

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Dark Earth Orders of Battle Jun 27, 2020 12:43:06 GMT

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One factor which does have a strong effect on the South American situation is the much, much larger Chaco War in the 1930s, which ended up as a general South American Great War, pitting the alliance of Brazil, Venezuela, Bolivia, Chile and Ecuador against that of Colombia, Paraguay, Peru and Argentina.

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Dark Earth Orders of Battle Jun 27, 2020 12:49:03 GMT stevep likes this

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Jun 27, 2020 12:28:20 GMT stevep said:

Jun 27, 2020 12:19:29 GMT simon darkshade said:

None of the South American powers is really up to building modern warships over 1500t, lacking a sophisticated shipbuilding industry.

Countries capable of building capital ships in the post WW2 era: USA, USSR, Britain, France, China, Japan, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Spain, Netherlands, Austria-Hungary, Canada, India, Australia and Mexico.
Note that this is theoretical capability, rather than those powers that actually have built them. Some will never build a capital ship again, having been priced and sized out of the running.

That leaves Greece and Turkey in some interesting situations when and if they eventually seek to replace their heavies.

Is that a typo as that's not really any larger than a standard OTL WWII destroyer. In the larger DE I would suspect even 15,000ton would probably be in their capacity although that's still a fairly small cruiser here.

A lot would depend on how long BBs or even BBBs would be militarily viable as well as the economic positions and perceived threats to the assorted powers as to which build new capital ships. Especially as they get larger and larger that both reduces the number of nations that can construct and support them and their military utility.

Steve,

It is no typo. As of the 1960s, even destroyer production is still 'offshored'. It isn't simply a matter of size, but of specialised productive capacity - naval guns, armour plate, radars, electronics, engines etc.

As of 1965, it is increasingly becoming the reserve of the superpowers and top rank great powers alone due to sheer cost and size. The states actively building nuclear battleships are the USA, USSR, Britain, France and China; Japan's ships are huge, yet conventional and the German ships being built are comparatively smaller - European sized, essentially. Their size and cost brings with it great capability and striking power, particularly considering that their main guns have a considerable range and their missiles give them both theatre and strategic strike capacity.

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Dark Earth Orders of Battle Jun 27, 2020 13:14:29 GMT

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Jun 27, 2020 12:43:06 GMT simon darkshade said:

One factor which does have a strong effect on the South American situation is the much, much larger Chaco War in the 1930s, which ended up as a general South American Great War, pitting the alliance of Brazil, Venezuela, Bolivia, Chile and Ecuador against that of Colombia, Paraguay, Peru and Argentina.

So i have a couple question about poor Paraguay.

1, did the Paraguayan War of OTL also happen.

2. if so, did Paraguay suffered as bad as it did in OTL.

3. following up on question 2, how did Paraguay be able to afort a new war if it had suffered so bad in the previous war.

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Dark Earth Orders of Battle Jun 27, 2020 14:41:28 GMT

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Jun 27, 2020 13:14:29 GMT lordroel said:

Jun 27, 2020 12:43:06 GMT simon darkshade said:

One factor which does have a strong effect on the South American situation is the much, much larger Chaco War in the 1930s, which ended up as a general South American Great War, pitting the alliance of Brazil, Venezuela, Bolivia, Chile and Ecuador against that of Colombia, Paraguay, Peru and Argentina.

So i have a couple question about poor Paraguay.

1, did the Paraguayan War of OTL also happen.

2. if so, did Paraguay suffered as bad as it did in OTL.

3. following up on question 2, how did Paraguay be able to afort a new war if it had suffered so bad in the previous war.

Well OTL it was able to recover from the 19thC devastation enough to actually win the Chaco war against Bolivia. However a longer coalition war of that size, with it stuck right in the middle could cause further serious devastation even if it ends up on the 'winning' side.

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Dark Earth Orders of Battle Jun 27, 2020 17:21:09 GMT lordroel and stevep like this

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Post by simon darkshade on Jun 27, 2020 17:21:09 GMT

I'll get to Paraguayan errata at some point.

The French orbat? The one I had spent 4.5 hours tweaking, formatting and writing up, even in the broad-brush French Army version? I had completed the Army, the French Air Force and all of the navy except the last submarines and minor surface combatatants.

Crash. Form resubmission. All work gone.

You'll forgive me if I leave off orbats for the moment.

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Dark Earth Orders of Battle Jun 27, 2020 17:49:23 GMT

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Jun 27, 2020 17:21:09 GMT simon darkshade said:

I'll get to Paraguayan errata at some point.

The French orbat? The one I had spent 4.5 hours tweaking, formatting and writing up, even in the broad-brush French Army version? I had completed the Army, the French Air Force and all of the navy except the last submarines and minor surface combatatants.

Crash. Form resubmission. All work gone.

You'll forgive me if I leave off orbats for the moment.

Sorry to hear that a troll eat your French Orbat, i hoop you will give him a good punishment, like building the Darkearth version of the French maginot line in full version in lego on his own.

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Dark Earth Orders of Battle Jun 27, 2020 19:12:54 GMT lordroel likes this

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I’m fairly sure it was a script on a website I’d just clicked on before the computer froze up. No matter; the majority of what was lost was French Air Force nomenclature that can be rebuilt. It is just the waste of time that is vexsome.

On Paraguay:

There was a a Paraguayan War with bad losses. As Steve says, they did recover to fight the Chaco War in @; additionally, the wider alliance/coalition soon makes the South American war grow beyond its immediate trigger.

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French Order of Battle 1961/62

French Army: 1,824,783
Marine Royale: 425,786
French Air Force: 587,643

Total: 2,838,212

Marine Royale: 283 ships, 2194 aircraft, 425,786 personnel

9 Aircraft Carriers (5 active, 2 refit, 2 reserve, 2 under construction)
2 Light Aircraft Carriers (2 reserve)

12 Battleships (8 active, 4 refit, 2 under construction)
4 Battlecruisers (4 active)

2 Nuclear Guided Missile Cruisers (2 active, 2 under construction)
6 Guided Missile Cruisers (6 active, 3 under construction)
6 Guided Missile Light Cruisers (6 active)

8 Heavy Cruisers (8 active)
18 Light Cruisers (9 active, 4 refit, 5 reserve)

27 Guided Missile Destroyers (23 active, 4 refit, 3 under construction)
63 Destroyers (32 active, 31 reserve)
49 Destroyer Escorts (29 active, 20 reserve)
41 Frigates (24 active, 17 reserve)
36 Avisos (15 active, 21 reserve)

4 Ballistic Missile Nuclear Submarines (4 active, 2 under construction)
14 Nuclear Submarines (14 active, 5 under construction)
38 Submarines (25 active, 13 reserve)

4 Commando Carriers
5 Amphibious Cruisers
8 Dock Landing Ships
25 Tank Landing Ships

80 Minesweepers (61 active, 19 reserve)
42 Patrol Torpedo Boats

Force Maritime Royale de l'Aéronautique Navale

Land Based Aviation: 640 aircraft
269 Breguet Br.1150 Atlantic MPA (4 turboprop)
123 P-2 Neptunes
87 Mouraine-Saulnier Épaulard MPA (4 turbojets)

75 Dassault Rotodynes

54 Latécoère 631 MPA flying boats
32 Lioré et Olivier LeO H-64 MPA flying boats

Carrier and Ship-Based Aviation: 1554 aircraft
325 Dassault Sea Mirage IIIN fighters
267 Dassault Super Mystère attack bombers
254 Sud-Dewoitine F-4 Phantom fighter/bombers
249 Morane-Saulnier Etendard strike fighters
175 Nord-Renault Durandal strike bombers
112 Breguet-Citroën Alize
104 Sud-Dewoitine Alouette III
68 Fairey Rotodyne Defenders

Flotte Méditerranéenne (Toulon)
CVN: Verdun
CVA: Alsace, Bretagne
BBG: Jean Bart, Charlemagne, Gloire, Soleil Royale,
BCG: Dunkerque, Toulon
CGN: Joffre
CG: Suffren, Courbet, Duquesne, Tourville
CA: Sans-Pareil, Magnifique, Temeraire, La Reine
CL: Chevalier Paul, Forbin, Roland, Marseillaise
DLG: Tigre, Guépard, Lynx, Panthère
DDG: Surcouf, Thevenard, Vauquelin, Maillé-Brézé, Dupetit-Thouars, Conde, Kersaint, Truguet, Hamelin, Willaumez, Villegaignon
DD: Aventurier, Fortuné, Adroit, Impetueuse, Souveraine, Ardente, Foudre, Némésis, Guerrière, Persévérante, Magicienne, Africaine, Romaine, Résistance, Surveillante, Valeureuse, Intrépide, Opiniâtre, Furieuse, Gracieuse, Belliqueux, Vengeur
DE: Hallebarde, Fauconneau, Espingole, Bouclier, Boutefeu, Cimeterre, Casque, Dague, Faulx, Pique, Épée, Pertuisane, Escopette, Flamberge, Rapière, Javeline
FF: Le Corse, Le Brestois, Le Boulonnais, Le Bordelais, Le Normand, Le Picard, Le Gascon, Le Lorrain, Le Bourguignon, Le Champenois, Le Savoyard, Le Breton, Le Basque, L'Agenais; Algérien, Tunisien,
PC: Le Victor Schœlcher, Le Commandant Bory, L'Amiral Charner, Le Doudart de Lagrée, Le Balny, Le Commandant Rivière

SSN: Austerlitz, Wagram, Ulm, Valmy, Friedland, Marne, Marengo, Jena
SS: Daphné, Diane, Doris, Eurydice, Flore, Circé, Calypso, Thetis, Galatée, Minerve, Junon, Psyché, Sirène, Hermione

LPH: Dixmude, Arromanches
LPD: Saturn, Neptune
LSD: Mogador, Algiers, Volta, Sfax
LST: Alcide, Protée, Argonaute, Ajax, Orion, Hercule, Persée, Apollon, Thésée, Nestor, Spartiate, Agamemnon, Romulus, Triton

AM: Orléans, Metz, Toulouse, Calais, Rouen, Avignon, Bordeaux, Nice, Nantes, Montpelier, Marseille, Grenoble, Dijon, Brest, Rennes, Rheims, Le Havre, Limoges, Besançon, Saint-Denis, Caen, Argenteuil
AMC: Charente, Dordogne, Garonne, Adour, Rhône, Agly, Var, Arc, Hérault, Orb, Èbre, Sarre

Flotte Atlantique (Brest)
CVA: Provence
BBG: Majestueux, Superbe
BCG: Strasbourg, Lyons
CGN: Foch
CG: Duguay-Trouin
CA: Imperieuse, Lion
CL: Mazarin, Talleyrand
DLG: Jaguar, Léopard
DDG: Primauguet, Jauréguiberry, Tartu, La Bourdonnais, Duperre, Guépratte, D'Estrées, Du Chayla
DD: Fantasque, Malin, Terrible, Indomptable, Audacieux, Triomphant
DE: Arbalète, Arc, Arquebuse, Baliste, Bélier, Bombarde, Carabine, Catapulte, Dard, Épieu, Francisque, Fronde, Harpon
FF: Le Béarnais, L'Alsacien, Le Provençal, Le Vendéen, Le Aveyronnais, Le Ariègeois
PC: Le Commandant Bourdais, L'Enseigne de vaisseau Henry; Le Légionnaire, Le Lancier, Le Hussard

SSBN: Terrible, Tonnant, Foudroyant, Indomtable
SSN: Alma, Tours, Patay, Castillon, Rocroi, Namur
SS: Amphitrite, Astrée, Artémis, Aréthuse, Adonis, Atalante, Amarante, Ariane, Andromaque, Acteon, Athenienne

LPH: La Résolue, Mistral
LPD: Jupiter, Mars
LSD: Oran, Constantine
LST: Vatour, Albatros, Gyrfault, Épervier, Milan, Bison, Chacal, Chamois, Chevreuil

AM: Dunkirk, Cherbourg, La Rochelle, Mulhouse, Saint-Nazaire, Cannes, Lorient, Belfort, Ajaccio, Carcasonne, Versailles, Chartres, Troyes, Chalons, Lille
AMC: Seine, Meuse, Rhin, Moselle, Somme, Oise, Aisne, Orne, Vire, Loire, Vienne, Maine

Escadron Pacifique (Papeete)
CL: Châteaurenault
PC: Le Cavalier

Escadron Antilles (Martinique)
CL: Bayard
PC: Le Franc Tireur

Escadron de l'Ocean Indien (Reunion)
CL: De Grasse
PC: Le Mameluck

Escadron d'Extrême-Orient (Cam Ranh Bay)
CVA: Normandie
BBG: Richelieu, Colbert
CG: Rohan
CA: Saint-Esprit, Dauphin-Royal
DDG: Casabianca, Comète, Immortalité, Sémillante
FF: Sénégalais, Marocain
DD: Hardi, Railleuse; Le Fier, Le Farouche
PC: Le Protet

LPD: Vénus
LSD: Bizerte, Dakar

Refit
CVA: Lorraine, Bourgogne
BBG: Jeanne d'Arc, Napoleon, Orient, Victoire
CL: Jean de Vienne, Montcalm, Champlain, La Galissonniere
DDG: Lamotte-Picquet, Latouche-Tréville, Destouches, Villeneuve

Under Construction
CVN: Saint Louis, Gaulois
BBGN: France, Paris
CGN: Lafayette, Turenne
CG: Rochambeau, Cassard, Bouvet
DDG: Sully, Dupleix, Vauban
SSBN: Vigilant, Tonnere
SSN: Cambrai, Bir Hakeim, Dien Bien Phu, Marignano, Chesapeake

Marine Royale Reserve: 98 ships, 378 aircraft, 140,852 personnel

2 Aircraft Carriers
2 Light Aircraft Carriers
5 Light Cruisers
31 Destroyers
20 Destroyer Escorts
17 Frigates
21 Avisos
13 Submarines
19 Minesweepers

CV: Champagne, Aquitaine
CVL: Henri IV, Charles Martel
CL: Victor Hugo, Jules Verne, Emile Bertin, Dupuy de Lome, Duguesclin
DD: Typhon, Simoun, Orage, Tramontane, Cyclone, Tempête, Tornade, Bourrasque, Sirroco, Trombe; Généreuse, Heureuse, Joyeuse, Malicieuse, Rieuse, Sérieuse, Trompeuse; L'Entreprenant, Le Farouche, L'Incomprise, La Poursuivante, La Cordelière, L'Iphigénie, La Bayonnaise; Fine, Renard, Inconstant, Melpomène, Créole, Bayadère, Favorite
DE: Mousquet, Mousqueton, Pistolet, Sabre, Sagaie, Sarbacane, Carquois, Claymore, Cognée, Coutelas, Fleuret, Hache, Massue, Mortier, Obusier, Pierrer, Stylet, Trident, Tromblon, Glaive
FF: Hova, Somali, Berbère, Arabe, Kabyle, Bambara, Sakalave, Touareg; Eveillé, Rusé, Ardent, Indiscret, Emporté, Effronté, Enjoué, Puissant, Suffisant
PC: Le Tirailleur, Le Volontaire, Le Goumier, Le Carabinier, Le Dragon, Le Voltigeur, Le Spahi, Le Fantassin, Le Grenadier, Le Lansquenet; Hébé, Consolante, Pourvoyeuse, Capricieuse, Égyptienne, Fleur-de-Lys, Modeste, Gentille, Charmante, Concorde, Belle Poule
SS: Andromède, Antigone, Armide, Aurore; Néarque, Nymphe, Néréide, Sibylle; Narval, Marsouin, Requin, Morse, Espadon
AM: Arras, Amiens, Bapaume, Belfort, Cambrai, Douai, Épernay, Épinal, Festubert, Guise, Hirson, Lunéville, Loos, Neuve Chapelle, Maubeuge, Mezieres, St. Mihiel, St. Quentin, Vimy

Fusiliers Marins Royale

1e Division d'Infanterie de Marine (Brest)

1ere Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
4e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
14e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
18e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

2eme Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
1er Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
6e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
13e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

3e Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
8e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
11e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
17e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

Divisional Troops
1ere Régiment Blindé de Fusiliers Marins
1ere Régiment Dragons Légère de Marine
1ere Régiment Commandos Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine
Régiment Navale d'Assaut

2e Division d'Infanterie de Marine (Toulon)

4e Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
2eme Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
7e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
16e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

5e Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
5e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
12e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
15e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

6e Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
3e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
9e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
10e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

Divisional Troops
2eme Régiment Blindé de Fusiliers Marins
2eme Régiment Dragons Légère de Marine
2eme Régiment Commandos Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine
Régiment Navale d'Assaut

simon darkshade Inspector-General Posts: 4,978 Likes: 5,841	Dark Earth Orders of Battle Jun 29, 2020 18:32:20 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by simon darkshade on Jun 29, 2020 18:32:20 GMT I’ve put the Marine Royale up as a starter; the Army and Air Force will follow soon.
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Jun 29, 2020 18:31:17 GMT simon darkshade said:

French Order of Battle 1961/62

French Army: 1,824,783
Marine Royale: 425,786
French Air Force: 587,643

Total: 2,838,212

Marine Royale: 283 ships, 2194 aircraft, 425,786 personnel

9 Aircraft Carriers (5 active, 2 refit, 2 reserve, 2 under construction)
2 Light Aircraft Carriers (2 reserve)

12 Battleships (8 active, 4 refit, 2 under construction)
4 Battlecruisers (4 active)

2 Nuclear Guided Missile Cruisers (2 active, 2 under construction)
6 Guided Missile Cruisers (6 active, 3 under construction)
6 Guided Missile Light Cruisers (6 active)

8 Heavy Cruisers (8 active)
18 Light Cruisers (9 active, 4 refit, 5 reserve)

27 Guided Missile Destroyers (23 active, 4 refit, 3 under construction)
63 Destroyers (32 active, 31 reserve)
49 Destroyer Escorts (29 active, 20 reserve)
41 Frigates (24 active, 17 reserve)
36 Avisos (15 active, 21 reserve)

4 Ballistic Missile Nuclear Submarines (4 active, 2 under construction)
14 Nuclear Submarines (14 active, 5 under construction)
38 Submarines (25 active, 13 reserve)

4 Commando Carriers
5 Amphibious Cruisers
8 Dock Landing Ships
25 Tank Landing Ships

80 Minesweepers (61 active, 19 reserve)
42 Patrol Torpedo Boats

Force Maritime Royale de l'Aéronautique Navale

Land Based Aviation: 640 aircraft
269 Breguet Br.1150 Atlantic MPA (4 turboprop)
123 P-2 Neptunes
87 Mouraine-Saulnier Épaulard MPA (4 turbojets)

75 Dassault Rotodynes

54 Latécoère 631 MPA flying boats
32 Lioré et Olivier LeO H-64 MPA flying boats

Carrier and Ship-Based Aviation: 1554 aircraft
325 Dassault Sea Mirage IIIN fighters
267 Dassault Super Mystère attack bombers
254 Sud-Dewoitine F-4 Phantom fighter/bombers
249 Morane-Saulnier Etendard strike fighters
175 Nord-Renault Durandal strike bombers
112 Breguet-Citroën Alize
104 Sud-Dewoitine Alouette III
68 Fairey Rotodyne Defenders

Flotte Méditerranéenne (Toulon)
CVN: Verdun
CVA: Alsace, Bretagne
BBG: Jean Bart, Charlemagne, Gloire, Soleil Royale,
BCG: Dunkerque, Toulon
CGN: Joffre
CG: Suffren, Courbet, Duquesne, Tourville
CA: Sans-Pareil, Magnifique, Temeraire, La Reine
CL: Chevalier Paul, Forbin, Roland, Marseillaise
DLG: Tigre, Guépard, Lynx, Panthère
DDG: Surcouf, Thevenard, Vauquelin, Maillé-Brézé, Dupetit-Thouars, Conde, Kersaint, Truguet, Hamelin, Willaumez, Villegaignon
DD: Aventurier, Fortuné, Adroit, Impetueuse, Souveraine, Ardente, Foudre, Némésis, Guerrière, Persévérante, Magicienne, Africaine, Romaine, Résistance, Surveillante, Valeureuse, Intrépide, Opiniâtre, Furieuse, Gracieuse, Belliqueux, Vengeur
DE: Hallebarde, Fauconneau, Espingole, Bouclier, Boutefeu, Cimeterre, Casque, Dague, Faulx, Pique, Épée, Pertuisane, Escopette, Flamberge, Rapière, Javeline
FF: Le Corse, Le Brestois, Le Boulonnais, Le Bordelais, Le Normand, Le Picard, Le Gascon, Le Lorrain, Le Bourguignon, Le Champenois, Le Savoyard, Le Breton, Le Basque, L'Agenais; Algérien, Tunisien,
PC: Le Victor Schœlcher, Le Commandant Bory, L'Amiral Charner, Le Doudart de Lagrée, Le Balny, Le Commandant Rivière

SSN: Austerlitz, Wagram, Ulm, Valmy, Friedland, Marne, Marengo, Jena
SS: Daphné, Diane, Doris, Eurydice, Flore, Circé, Calypso, Thetis, Galatée, Minerve, Junon, Psyché, Sirène, Hermione

LPH: Dixmude, Arromanches
LPD: Saturn, Neptune
LSD: Mogador, Algiers, Volta, Sfax
LST: Alcide, Protée, Argonaute, Ajax, Orion, Hercule, Persée, Apollon, Thésée, Nestor, Spartiate, Agamemnon, Romulus, Triton

AM: Orléans, Metz, Toulouse, Calais, Rouen, Avignon, Bordeaux, Nice, Nantes, Montpelier, Marseille, Grenoble, Dijon, Brest, Rennes, Rheims, Le Havre, Limoges, Besançon, Saint-Denis, Caen, Argenteuil
AMC: Charente, Dordogne, Garonne, Adour, Rhône, Agly, Var, Arc, Hérault, Orb, Èbre, Sarre

Flotte Atlantique (Brest)
CVA: Provence
BBG: Majestueux, Superbe
BCG: Strasbourg, Lyons
CGN: Foch
CG: Duguay-Trouin
CA: Imperieuse, Lion
CL: Mazarin, Talleyrand
DLG: Jaguar, Léopard
DDG: Primauguet, Jauréguiberry, Tartu, La Bourdonnais, Duperre, Guépratte, D'Estrées, Du Chayla
DD: Fantasque, Malin, Terrible, Indomptable, Audacieux, Triomphant
DE: Arbalète, Arc, Arquebuse, Baliste, Bélier, Bombarde, Carabine, Catapulte, Dard, Épieu, Francisque, Fronde, Harpon
FF: Le Béarnais, L'Alsacien, Le Provençal, Le Vendéen, Le Aveyronnais, Le Ariègeois
PC: Le Commandant Bourdais, L'Enseigne de vaisseau Henry; Le Légionnaire, Le Lancier, Le Hussard

SSBN: Terrible, Tonnant, Foudroyant, Indomtable
SSN: Alma, Tours, Patay, Castillon, Rocroi, Namur
SS: Amphitrite, Astrée, Artémis, Aréthuse, Adonis, Atalante, Amarante, Ariane, Andromaque, Acteon, Athenienne

LPH: La Résolue, Mistral
LPD: Jupiter, Mars
LSD: Oran, Constantine
LST: Vatour, Albatros, Gyrfault, Épervier, Milan, Bison, Chacal, Chamois, Chevreuil

AM: Dunkirk, Cherbourg, La Rochelle, Mulhouse, Saint-Nazaire, Cannes, Lorient, Belfort, Ajaccio, Carcasonne, Versailles, Chartres, Troyes, Chalons, Lille
AMC: Seine, Meuse, Rhin, Moselle, Somme, Oise, Aisne, Orne, Vire, Loire, Vienne, Maine

Escadron Pacifique (Papeete)
CL: Châteaurenault
PC: Le Cavalier

Escadron Antilles (Martinique)
CL: Bayard
PC: Le Franc Tireur

Escadron de l'Ocean Indien (Reunion)
CL: De Grasse
PC: Le Mameluck

Escadron d'Extrême-Orient (Cam Ranh Bay)
CVA: Normandie
BBG: Richelieu, Colbert
CG: Rohan
CA: Saint-Esprit, Dauphin-Royal
DDG: Casabianca, Comète, Immortalité, Sémillante
FF: Sénégalais, Marocain
DD: Hardi, Railleuse; Le Fier, Le Farouche
PC: Le Protet

LPD: Vénus
LSD: Bizerte, Dakar

Refit
CVA: Lorraine, Bourgogne
BBG: Jeanne d'Arc, Napoleon, Orient, Victoire
CL: Jean de Vienne, Montcalm, Champlain, La Galissonniere
DDG: Lamotte-Picquet, Latouche-Tréville, Destouches, Villeneuve

Under Construction
CVN: Saint Louis, Gaulois
BBGN: France, Paris
CGN: Lafayette, Turenne
CG: Rochambeau, Cassard, Bouvet
DDG: Sully, Dupleix, Vauban
SSBN: Vigilant, Tonnere
SSN: Cambrai, Bir Hakeim, Dien Bien Phu, Marignano, Chesapeake

Marine Royale Reserve: 98 ships, 378 aircraft, 140,852 personnel

2 Aircraft Carriers
2 Light Aircraft Carriers
5 Light Cruisers
31 Destroyers
20 Destroyer Escorts
17 Frigates
21 Avisos
13 Submarines
19 Minesweepers

CV: Champagne, Aquitaine
CVL: Henri IV, Charles Martel
CL: Victor Hugo, Jules Verne, Emile Bertin, Dupuy de Lome, Duguesclin
DD: Typhon, Simoun, Orage, Tramontane, Cyclone, Tempête, Tornade, Bourrasque, Sirroco, Trombe; Généreuse, Heureuse, Joyeuse, Malicieuse, Rieuse, Sérieuse, Trompeuse; L'Entreprenant, Le Farouche, L'Incomprise, La Poursuivante, La Cordelière, L'Iphigénie, La Bayonnaise; Fine, Renard, Inconstant, Melpomène, Créole, Bayadère, Favorite
DE: Mousquet, Mousqueton, Pistolet, Sabre, Sagaie, Sarbacane, Carquois, Claymore, Cognée, Coutelas, Fleuret, Hache, Massue, Mortier, Obusier, Pierrer, Stylet, Trident, Tromblon, Glaive
FF: Hova, Somali, Berbère, Arabe, Kabyle, Bambara, Sakalave, Touareg; Eveillé, Rusé, Ardent, Indiscret, Emporté, Effronté, Enjoué, Puissant, Suffisant
PC: Le Tirailleur, Le Volontaire, Le Goumier, Le Carabinier, Le Dragon, Le Voltigeur, Le Spahi, Le Fantassin, Le Grenadier, Le Lansquenet; Hébé, Consolante, Pourvoyeuse, Capricieuse, Égyptienne, Fleur-de-Lys, Modeste, Gentille, Charmante, Concorde, Belle Poule
SS: Andromède, Antigone, Armide, Aurore; Néarque, Nymphe, Néréide, Sibylle; Narval, Marsouin, Requin, Morse, Espadon
AM: Arras, Amiens, Bapaume, Belfort, Cambrai, Douai, Épernay, Épinal, Festubert, Guise, Hirson, Lunéville, Loos, Neuve Chapelle, Maubeuge, Mezieres, St. Mihiel, St. Quentin, Vimy

Fusiliers Marins Royale

1e Division d'Infanterie de Marine (Brest)

1ere Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
4e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
14e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
18e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

2eme Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
1er Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
6e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
13e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

3e Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
8e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
11e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
17e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

Divisional Troops
1ere Régiment Blindé de Fusiliers Marins
1ere Régiment Dragons Légère de Marine
1ere Régiment Commandos Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine
Régiment Navale d'Assaut

2e Division d'Infanterie de Marine (Toulon)

4e Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
2eme Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
7e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
16e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

5e Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
5e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
12e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
15e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

6e Brigade de Fusiliers Marins
3e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
9e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
10e Régiment de Fusiliers Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine

Divisional Troops
2eme Régiment Blindé de Fusiliers Marins
2eme Régiment Dragons Légère de Marine
2eme Régiment Commandos Marins
Régiment d'Artillerie de Marine
Régiment Navale d'Assaut

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Royale Service Aéronautique: 6757 aircraft, 587,643 personnel

Forces de Défense Aérienne: 24 wings, 1422 aircraft, 880 missiles

329 Dassault Super Mystère fighters
310 Breguet-Citroën Sirocco fighters
243 Dassault Mirage III fighters

236 Dassault Mirage II interceptors
304 Nord-Renault 2400 Griffon interceptors

240 Nord-Renault Zodiaque SAMs
640 Matra Sceptre SAMs

1er CAD (Corps Aérien Defense)
2 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage III
5 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage III
14 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage II
29 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage II
36 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère
45 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère

42 Escadre de Défense Sol-Air: 80 Nord-Renault Zodiaque
61 Escadre de Défense Sol-Air: 160 Matra Sceptre

2e CAD (Corps Aérien Defense)
1 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage III
7 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage II
12 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère
26 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère
57 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Nord-Renault 2400 Griffon
63 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Nord-Renault 2400 Griffon

72 Escadre de Défense Sol-Air: 80 Nord-Renault Zodiaque
87 Escadre de Défense Sol-Air: 160 Matra Sceptre

3e CAD (Corps Aérien Defense)
6 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Breguet-Citroën Sirocco
13 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Breguet-Citroën Sirocco
21 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Breguet-Citroën Sirocco
34 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Breguet-Citroën Sirocco
55 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Nord-Renault 2400 Griffon
69 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Nord-Renault 2400 Griffon

56 Escadre de Défense Sol-Air: 80 Nord-Renault Zodiaque
67 Escadre de Défense Sol-Air: 160 Matra Sceptre

Forces Aérienne Tactique: 24 wings, 1962 aircraft

345 Dassault Mirage III fighters
240 Sud-Dewoitine Grognard fighters
90 Sud-Dewoitine Baroudeur fighters

324 Dassault Super Mirage IV strike fighters

316 Dassault Super Mystère fighter-bombers
163 Breguet Sirocco fighter-bombers
158 Morane-Saulnier Etendard fighter-bombers

326 Fouga-Potez Super Vatour light bombers

1er CATAC (Corps Aérien Tactique)
4 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage III
11 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Breguet-Citroën Sirocco
16 Escadre de Attaque: 72 Sud-Dewoitine Grognard
25 Escadre de Bombardement: 72 Fouga-Potez Super Vatour
38 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère
51 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère

2e CATAC (Corps Aérien Tactique)
3 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage III
15 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Morane-Saulnier Etendard
22 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Morane-Saulnier Etendard
27 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mirage IV
43 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mirage IV
59 Escadre de Bombardement: 72 Fouga-Potez Super Vatour

3e CATAC (Corps Aérien Tactique)
8 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage III
20 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Breguet-Citroën Sirocco
24 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère
32 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Sud-Dewoitine Baroudeur
50 Escadre de Attaque: 72 Sud-Dewoitine Grognard
62 Escadre de Bombardement: 72 Fouga-Potez Super Vatour

4e CATAC (Corps Aérien Tactique)
10 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage III
23 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mirage IV
35 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mirage IV
40 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère
54 Escadre de Attaque: 72 Sud-Dewoitine Grognard
65 Escadre de Bombardement: 72 Fouga-Potez Super Vatour

Forces Aérienne Stratégiques: 23 wings, 739 aircraft, 417 missiles

369 Nord-Renault Chevalier medium bombers
156 Sud-Dewoitine Mistral heavy bombers

158 Sud-Dewoitine Caravelle tankers
56 Nord-Renault Chevalier electronic warfare aircraft

52 Matra S2 ICBM (4000 miles; 2 Mt)
129 Matra S1 MRBM (1600 miles; 1 Mt)
236 Nord-Renault Durandal SRBM (320 miles; 25kt)

1e CAS (Corps Aérien Stratégiques)
75 Escadre de Missiles Stratégiques: 25 S2 ICBM
76 Escadre de Missiles Stratégiques: 25 S2 ICBM
78 Escadre de Missiles Stratégiques: 40 S1 MRBM
82 Escadre de Missiles Stratégiques: 40 S1 MRBM
84 Escadre de Missiles Stratégiques: 40 S1 MRBM
89 Escadre de Missiles Stratégiques: 108 Nord-Renault Durandal SRBM
90 Escadre de Missiles Stratégiques: 108 Nord-Renault Durandal SRBM

2e CAS (Corps Aérien Stratégiques)
91 Escadre de Bombardement: 36 Sud-Dewoitine Mistral II
92 Escadre de Bombardement: 54 Nord-Renault Chevalier
93 Escadre de Bombardement: 54 Nord-Renault Chevalier
94 Escadre de Bombardement: 54 Nord-Renault Chevalier
95 Escadre de Bombardement: 54 Nord-Renault Chevalier

17 Escadre de Ravitaillement en Vol: 36 Sud-Dewoitine Caravelle
53 Escadre de Ravitaillement en Vol: 36 Sud-Dewoitine Caravelle
58 Escadre de Electronique Aéroporté: 24 Nord-Renault Chevalier EW

3e CAS (Corps Aérien Stratégiques)
96 Escadre de Bombardement: 54 Nord-Renault Chevalier
97 Escadre de Bombardement: 36 Sud-Dewoitine Mistral II
98 Escadre de Bombardement: 36 Sud-Dewoitine Mistral II
99 Escadre de Bombardment: 54 Nord-Renault Chevalier
100 Escadre de Bombardment: 36 Sud-Dewoitine Mistral II

19 Escadre de Ravitaillement en Vol: 36 Sud-Dewoitine Caravelle
48 Escadre de Electronique Aéroporté: 24 Nord-Renault Chevalier EW
68 Escadre de Ravitaillement en Vol: 36 Sud-Dewoitine Caravelle

Commandement du Transport Aérien Militaire: 15 wings, 501 aircraft, 372 helicopters

267 Nord-Renault Nortatlas tactical transports
136 Sud-Dewoitine Atlas medium strategic transports
98 Breguet-Citroën Mars heavy strategic transports

155 Sud-Dewoitine Alouette III
84 Sud-Dewoitine Puma
79 Nord-Renault Super Frelon
54 Dassault Rotodynes

9 Escadre du Transport Stratégiques: 60 Sud-Dewoitine Atlas
28 Escadre du Transport Stratégiques: 60 Sud-Dewoitine Atlas
33 Escadre du Transport Stratégiques: 42 Breguet-Citroën Mars
60 Escadre du Transport Stratégiques: 42 Breguet-Citroën Mars

30 Escadre du Transport: 54 Nord-Renault Noratlas
41 Escadre du Transport: 54 Nord-Renault Noratlas
66 Escadre du Transport: 54 Nord-Renault Noratlas
70 Escadre du Transport: 54 Nord-Renault Noratlas
74 Escadre du Transport: 54 Nord-Renault Noratlas

37 Escadre d'Hélicoptères: 72 Nord-Renault Super Frelon
46 Escadre d'Hélicoptères: 72 Sud-Dewoitine Alouette III
77 Escadre d'Hélicoptères: 72 Sud-Dewoitine Puma
79 Escadre d'Hélicoptères: 54 Dassault Rotodynes
85 Escadre d'Hélicoptères: 72 Sud-Dewoitine Alouette III

Forces Aérien Algerienne: 6 wings, 527 aircraft

204 Fouga-Potez 75 COIN aircraft
160 Dassault Super Mystère fighter-bombers
84 Sud-Dewoitine Grognard fighters
79 Arsenal VG 125 light fighters

31 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère
47 Escadre de Attaque: 96 Fouga-Potez 75
50 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Arsenal VG 125
64 Escadre de Attaque: 72 Sud-Dewoitine Grognard
73 Escadre de Attaque: 96 Fouga-Potez 75
105 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère

Forces Aérien Extreme Orient: 5 wings, 405 aircraft

155 Breguet-Citroën Sirocco fighters
90 Dassault Mirage III fighters
82 Dassault Super Mystère fighter-bombers
78 Arsenal VG 125 light fighter

39 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Super Mystère
44 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Arsenal VG 125
52 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Dassault Mirage III
101 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Breguet-Citroën Sirocco
102 Escadre de Chasse: 72 Breguet-Citroën Sirocco

Forces Aérienne d’Outre Mer: 5 wings, 345 aircraft

110 Arsenal VG 125 light fighters
108 Fouga-Potez 75 COIN aircraft
72 Sud-Dewoitine Alouette III
40 Dassault Rotodyne
15 Breguet-Citroën Colmar utility aircraft

103 Escadre Aérien Mixte d’Outre Mer: 24 Arsenal VG 125, 16 Sud-Dewoitine Alouette III, 24 Fouga-Potez 75 (Dakar, Sengal)
104 Escadre Aérien Mixte d’Outre Mer: 24 Arsenal VG 125, 16 Sud-Dewoitine Alouette III, 24 Fouga-Potez 75 (Fort-Lamy, Chad)
106 Escadre Aérien Mixte d’Outre Mer: 24 Arsenal VG 125, 16 Dassault Rotodyne, 24 Fouga-Potez 75 (Djibouti, French Somaliland)
107 Escadre Aérien Mixte d’Outre Mer: 12 Breguet-Citroën Colmar, 16 Dassault Rotodyne, 16 Sud-Dewoitine Alouette III (Tahiti)
108 Escadre Aérien Mixte d’Outre Mer: 24 Arsenal VG 125, 16 Sud-Dewoitine Alouette III, 24 Potez 75 (Cayenne, French Guyana)

Commandement de Formation: 7 wings, 484 aircraft

268 Fouga Magister basic jet trainers
157 Mouraine-Saulnier Alcyon basic trainers
59 Breguet-Citroën Colmar utility trainers

49 Escadre de Formation: 64 Fouga-Potez Magister
71 Escadre de Formation: 72 Mouraine-Saulnier Alcyon
80 Escadre de Formation: 64 Fouga-Potez Magister
81 Escadre de Formation: 64 Fouga-Potez Magister
83 Escadre de Formation: 48 Breguet-Citroën Colmar
86 Escadre de Formation: 64 Fouga-Potez Magister
88 Escadre de Formation: 72 Mouraine-Saulnier Alcyon

Royale Service Aéronautique Reserve: 1623 aircraft, 282,634 personnel

410 F-84 Thunderjets
374 Dassault Ouragan
246 de Havilland Vampire
162 Dassault Mystère
139 English Electric Canberra
92 B-29 Superfortresses
144 C-47 Dakota
56 C-54 Skymaster

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