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Post by mobiyuz on Jun 27, 2019 14:02:43 GMT
I still think she will stay in Austria, maybe if she like here male version likes art, go to the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna from (problem is she can only go from 1920 onward when women were first admitted to the Academy). As we all know, the male Hitler in 1907 and 1908 was twice denied admission to the drawing class. Well, if Adele is kept out of the wider world of politics until 1920, it's possible that she could have the time to refine her style of painting a bit and be more readily accepted into the AFAV when they do start accepting women. That said, I really keep having this strange picture in my head. Adele Hitler, rebellious young woman, living as a bohemian on the streets of Vienna. She wears trousers and causes quite a public scandal. She reads the works of Nietzche and Engels, while paying little heed to either. She paints to scrape out a living, and generally lives as she pleases. She's in Vienna, cosmopolitan, liberal Vienna, far from the rural village where her father terrorized her. Miss Hitler is the very image of the modern, "liberated woman", and loving every minute of it.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 27, 2019 14:08:48 GMT
I still think she will stay in Austria, maybe if she like here male version likes art, go to the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna from (problem is she can only go from 1920 onward when women were first admitted to the Academy). As we all know, the male Hitler in 1907 and 1908 was twice denied admission to the drawing class. Well, if Adele is kept out of the wider world of politics until 1920, it's possible that she could have the time to refine her style of painting a bit and be more readily accepted into the AFAV when they do start accepting women. That said, I really keep having this strange picture in my head. Adele Hitler, rebellious young woman, living as a bohemian on the streets of Vienna. She wears trousers and causes quite a public scandal. She reads the works of Nietzche and Engels, while paying little heed to either. She paints to scrape out a living, and generally lives as she pleases. She's in Vienna, cosmopolitan, liberal Vienna, far from the rural village where her father terrorized her. Miss Hitler is the very image of the modern, "liberated woman", and loving every minute of it. She could have joined the Communist Party of Austria, but except a failed coup d'état in November 12th 1918 by the the party which was not professionally organised and not authorized by the Soviet government the party did not achieve much, unlike its German counterpart who was more active, thus she could decide to go to Germany and join Rosa Luxemburg, but that could result here being executed together with Luxemburg.
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Post by mobiyuz on Jun 27, 2019 14:11:42 GMT
Well, if Adele is kept out of the wider world of politics until 1920, it's possible that she could have the time to refine her style of painting a bit and be more readily accepted into the AFAV when they do start accepting women. That said, I really keep having this strange picture in my head. Adele Hitler, rebellious young woman, living as a bohemian on the streets of Vienna. She wears trousers and causes quite a public scandal. She reads the works of Nietzche and Engels, while paying little heed to either. She paints to scrape out a living, and generally lives as she pleases. She's in Vienna, cosmopolitan, liberal Vienna, far from the rural village where her father terrorized her. Miss Hitler is the very image of the modern, "liberated woman", and loving every minute of it. She could have joined the Communist Party of Austria, but except a failed coup d'état in November 12th 1918 by the the party which was not professionally organised and not authorized by the Soviet government the party did not achieve much, unlike its German counterpart who was more active, thus she could decide to go to Germany and join Rosa Luxemburg, but that could result here being executed together with Luxemburg. Or, perhaps, she decides to flee the heat in Europe by hopping aboard the first ship to der Vereinigte Staaten...
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Post by lordroel on Jun 27, 2019 14:13:36 GMT
She could have joined the Communist Party of Austria, but except a failed coup d'état in November 12th 1918 by the the party which was not professionally organised and not authorized by the Soviet government the party did not achieve much, unlike its German counterpart who was more active, thus she could decide to go to Germany and join Rosa Luxemburg, but that could result here being executed together with Luxemburg. Or, perhaps, she decides to flee the heat in Europe by hopping aboard the first ship to der Vereinigte Staaten... That could be something that she could have done. Wow already 4 pages of discussion about what if a female Hitler instead of a male Hitler was born.
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Post by stevep on Jun 27, 2019 14:29:36 GMT
I still think she will stay in Austria, maybe if she like here male version likes art, go to the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna from (problem is she can only go from 1920 onward when women were first admitted to the Academy). As we all know, the male Hitler in 1907 and 1908 was twice denied admission to the drawing class.
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Why do you think she will stay in Austria? As I understand it Adolf left in part because of his bad relations with his father, who identified strongly with Austria and hence the alienated young man switched his loyalty to the newer German empire. [Although there are rumours he tried to join the Austrian army before he joined the Bavarian one.] I could see Adele being more likely to stay if her relations with her father were better, or because she was female, she was less able to leave but it could go either way.
One other difference is that his mother seemed to have very much doted on the young Adolf but possibly she wouldn't have treated a female child the same way? In which case you could have a reversal of OTL with Adele being very much daddy's favourite but frosty relations with her mother?
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Post by stevep on Jun 27, 2019 14:31:15 GMT
Or, perhaps, she decides to flee the heat in Europe by hopping aboard the first ship to der Vereinigte Staaten... That could be something that she could have done. Wow already 4 pages of discussion about what if a female Hitler instead of a male Hitler was born.
The beauties of AH the ideas that can develop. And most of it comes after we pretty much agree she's not going to be leading some fascist parallel of the OTL Nazis.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 27, 2019 14:32:05 GMT
That could be something that she could have done. Wow already 4 pages of discussion about what if a female Hitler instead of a male Hitler was born. The beauties of AH the ideas that can develop. And most of it comes after we pretty much agree she's not going to be leading some fascist parallel of the OTL Nazis. Thanks, now i have that idea of here leading a female amazonian party that wants to enslave males.
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Post by stevep on Jun 27, 2019 14:54:55 GMT
The beauties of AH the ideas that can develop. And most of it comes after we pretty much agree she's not going to be leading some fascist parallel of the OTL Nazis. Thanks, now i have that idea of here leading a female amazonian party that wants to enslave males.
Please, don't give Rauchel ideas!
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Post by mullauna on Jun 29, 2019 9:47:17 GMT
I think Adele's mother would like having a little daughter that she can pretty up and show off, so her relationship with the female Adolf will be different but the same in many ways. I can't see Adele's childhood being easy if she doesn't like long hair and dresses and being expected to look pretty. Not in a rural Austro-Hungarian village at the turn of the 20th century. More reason for Adele to want to escape to Vienna?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 29, 2019 9:50:12 GMT
I think Adele's mother would like having a little daughter that she can pretty up and show off, so her relationship with the female Adolf will be different but the same in many ways. I can't see Adele's childhood being easy if she doesn't like long hair and dresses and being expected to look pretty. Not in a rural Austro-Hungarian village at the turn of the 20th century. More reason for Adele to want to escape to Vienna? mullauna , i start to think every post you make here is about here being pretty, wearing fancy dress and so on, please stop this.
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Post by mobiyuz on Jun 29, 2019 9:51:45 GMT
I think Adele's mother would like having a little daughter that she can pretty up and show off, so her relationship with the female Adolf will be different but the same in many ways. I can't see Adele's childhood being easy if she doesn't like long hair and dresses and being expected to look pretty. Not in a rural Austro-Hungarian village at the turn of the 20th century. More reason for Adele to want to escape to Vienna? And again, I move back to my idea of the bohemian, trouser-wearing, cigar-smoking "modern woman" Adele.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 29, 2019 9:53:30 GMT
I think Adele's mother would like having a little daughter that she can pretty up and show off, so her relationship with the female Adolf will be different but the same in many ways. I can't see Adele's childhood being easy if she doesn't like long hair and dresses and being expected to look pretty. Not in a rural Austro-Hungarian village at the turn of the 20th century. More reason for Adele to want to escape to Vienna? And again, I move back to my idea of the bohemian, trouser-wearing, cigar-smoking "modern woman" Adele. Seems voting right for women in Austria was given in 1918, she could go into politics there.
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Post by dayton3 on Oct 21, 2019 13:38:42 GMT
This would mean Adele Hitler would have one fewer testicles than Adolf Hitler did. Given that he was "monorchid"
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Post by lordroel on Oct 21, 2019 14:15:46 GMT
This would mean Adele Hitler would have one fewer testicles than Adolf Hitler did. Given that he was "monorchid" Really, that is what comes to your mind when thinking about, What if Adolf Hitler was born a girl.
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Post by dayton3 on Oct 23, 2019 1:49:46 GMT
This would mean Adele Hitler would have one fewer testicles than Adolf Hitler did. Given that he was "monorchid" Really, that is what comes to your mind when thinking about, What if Adolf Hitler was born a girl. Sorry I didn't have anything better to add. I still think it is more than a little interesting that the Fuhrer had only one testicle.
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