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Post by futurist on Oct 4, 2018 20:50:20 GMT
What if Adolf Hitler was born a girl in 1889 and given the name Adele Hitler?
For the record, assume that Hitler's personality would remain the same in this TL with the exception that "he" will be of the female sex in this TL. Also, assume that Hitler would have a female gender identity in this TL as well.
What would Hitler's life have looked like in this TL?
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Post by lordroel on Oct 4, 2018 20:52:00 GMT
What if Adolf Hitler was born a girl in 1889 and given the name Adele Hitler? For the record, assume that Hitler's personality would remain the same in this TL with the exception that "he" will be of the female sex in this TL. Also, assume that Hitler would have a female gender identity in this TL as well. A female version of Hitler will not serve on the front line during the Great War, in matter of fact, it is a question if she ever leaves Austria in the first place. |
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Post by futurist on Oct 4, 2018 20:53:26 GMT
What if Adolf Hitler was born a girl in 1889 and given the name Adele Hitler? For the record, assume that Hitler's personality would remain the same in this TL with the exception that "he" will be of the female sex in this TL. Also, assume that Hitler would have a female gender identity in this TL as well. A female version of Hitler will not serve on the front line during the Great War, in matter of fact, it is a question if she ever leaves Austria in the first place. Agreed that she would not serve in World War I unless she pretends to be a man and gets away with it. However, she'd probably want to help her country in some way during the war since she'd still be a staunch German nationalist in this TL. Thus, what about being a nurse for either Austria-Hungary or Germany during World War I? |
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Post by sasalele on Oct 4, 2018 20:55:20 GMT
The thing is though OTL Hitler was probably so shaped by WWI that Adele is going to be more than likely an unknown woman, as obviously women wouldn't be able to serve in the Austrian-Hungarian Army. At most maybe Adele becomes a semi-noted artist and that's about it and not even a household name.
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Post by futurist on Oct 4, 2018 21:02:57 GMT
The thing is though OTL Hitler was probably so shaped by WWI that Adele is going to be more than likely an unknown woman, as obviously women wouldn't be able to serve in the Austrian-Hungarian Army. At most maybe Adele becomes a semi-noted artist and that's about it and not even a household name. Adele's painting and drawing skills wouldn't be any better than Adolf's were in our TL, though. |
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Post by lordroel on Oct 4, 2018 21:07:02 GMT
The thing is though OTL Hitler was probably so shaped by WWI that Adele is going to be more than likely an unknown woman, as obviously women wouldn't be able to serve in the Austrian-Hungarian Army. At most maybe Adele becomes a semi-noted artist and that's about it and not even a household name. Adele's painting and drawing skills wouldn't be any better than Adolf's were in our TL, though. In the end she could be just a ordinary female in Austria living a normal live not knowing the horror here male counterpartt would cause to the world. |
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Post by futurist on Oct 4, 2018 21:08:20 GMT
Adele's painting and drawing skills wouldn't be any better than Adolf's were in our TL, though. In the end she could be just a ordinary female in Austria living a normal live not knowing the horror here male counterpartt would cause to the world. So, being a nurse during WWI is unrealistic? |
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Post by lordroel on Oct 4, 2018 21:11:32 GMT
In the end she could be just a ordinary female in Austria living a normal live not knowing the horror here male counterpartt would cause to the world. So, being a nurse during WWI is unrealistic? Nope, shr could fall in love with a injured soldier, marry and have children, but do not think she will become famous only because she is the female counterpart of Aldolf Hitter. |
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Post by futurist on Oct 4, 2018 21:15:59 GMT
So, being a nurse during WWI is unrealistic? Nope, shr could fall in love with a injured soldier, marry and have children, but do not think she will become famous only because she is the female counterpart of Aldolf Hitter. Agreed. Also, to clarify--you're saying that, as a nurse, she could find and take care of an injured soldier and marry him, correct? |
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Post by lordroel on Oct 5, 2018 7:17:07 GMT
Nope, shr could fall in love with a injured soldier, marry and have children, but do not think she will become famous only because she is the female counterpart of Aldolf Hitter. Agreed. Also, to clarify--you're saying that, as a nurse, she could find and take care of an injured soldier and marry him, correct? Yes, it could be one of the things that can happen to here. |
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Post by Zyobot on Oct 11, 2018 9:57:04 GMT
As most have said here, Adele's female status means that her social standing prevents her from becoming perhaps the worst tyrant of the 20th Century. And consequently, post-1900 history is fundamentally and irrevocably changed.
...Then again, there's the (remote) potential that some equally, if not more dangerous and diabolical person replaces Der Fuhrer ITTL. But I can't tell you the precise odds of that happening, nor compare and contrast.
World War One occurs all the same, though; I don't see any reason why a girl Hitler would meaningfully impact that. Serving as a nurse might make sense.
If she were born a century later in, say, 1989, then Adele might've been allowed to serve as a front-lines soldier. But that's a whole different discussion, so it's inappropriate for me to get further into that here.
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Post by mullauna on Oct 13, 2018 2:02:55 GMT
I did a "Lenin born female" and the same thing applies here. Adele Hitler would be like Liesl from "The Sound of Music", restricted to dresses and jewelry and perfume and probably marries a nice young man from the next town over. a female Lenin fulfills the role expected of a young woman in Tsarist Russia, marries a man... and history never hears of her.
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Post by insect on Jun 22, 2019 2:43:56 GMT
A female hitler would never be in control of Germany.
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Post by stevep on Jun 22, 2019 9:38:49 GMT
Ironically one point just occurred to me. As a female with a rather unpleasant father by some accounts she might end up radicalised and politically active but on the far left rather than far right. Possibly another fatality in the Spartacist uprising or if she survived that playing a role as a communist in Weimar Germany? Doubt she would end up being a prominent member even if communists rather than fascists came to power because her sex would still limit her potential.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 22, 2019 9:40:27 GMT
Ironically one point just occurred to me. As a female with a rather unpleasant father by some accounts she might end up radicalised and politically active but on the far left rather than far right. Possibly another fatality in the Spartacist uprising or if she survived that playing a role as a communist in Weimar Germany? Doubt she would end up being a prominent member even if communists rather than fascists came to power because her sex would still limit her potential. You mean we could end up with a Rosa Luxemburg |
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