Esp. in a time of crisis, people (here in Israel or Poland or Russia - as beeing hit worst by Himmlers acts in OTL) need some scapegoats... Himmler would be a natural "choice" for these people...
You want to blame the ISOT of a 1913 German Empire to 2018 on a 13 year old boy who suffers of poor health, i think 2018 Israel and Poland have other things they will be worried about, so can we focus discussions about how a 1913 German Empire which is made up of several kingdoms will survive 2018 instead of discussion how Israel or Poland are going to kidnap ore kill children, otherwise i will close this thread as i am tired of seeing threads about Germany being ISOT many years ahead being being turned into lets kill people who while they are monsters have not done anything yet threads.
Sorry. you seem to misunderstood me.
i do NOT want to blame anybody.
I just guess what would happen in that scenario. Hope you see the difference? There is no "wish that Himmler die as 13year old", just me guessing what would happen.
I would prefer the modern israeli, poles, russians (and many others more)NOT to act brutal and try to kill him. But honestly i do not belive that the world is "good", in the sense that everybody would say "hey, he is innocent, because he is 13 years old and had done "nothing", the other Himmler, the guy we know was evil, but that boy isn´t".
Yes, i would prefer in ANY such scenario, that these public known people would not be punished for things they will have done (or have done in our TL later in their age)... so please don´t mix "my expectation what will happen" with what i wish.
The poles have many more problems, but with them loosing 20 million people of their state AND them knowing that heinrich himmler, the person who had much personal responsibility for millions of death poles in our TL i see a realistic chance that either the government or some "police squads" or local angry poles would catch and "punish" him.
We could move that away from Germany13->2018, just think about osama bin laden with 15 years, his home is moved to 2018. That 15year old Osama has done nothing, infact he is a modern decadent young rich person, who is not religious. But what would the USA do with him? Just asking... because that is the core failure of such time warps with historical real persons.
By the way, with 1913-germany moving into 2018 we have the removal of 20 million polish people. Just guess what this will cause in the rest of poland.
These things are connected with these ASB-timewarps, nobody would ignore in the modern media society the fact that Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Goering and co are alive. So this would be a huge medial attraction, next to questions about "what happened with all the french people in alsac, denmark, poland or eastprussian part of russia. Add in millions in china (the areas today is VERY dense populated) and millions in africa. These things would be very important in a timeline. Not in imperial germany, they would be shocked, angry but also fearful. think about 500k jewish people in germany, who learn that - in our TL most of them were massacred in only 30 years!. Add the fact that the old style world view (man work, dominate, rule, control) has vanished and the (beloved) Kaiser is seen as a joke in most other countries. From the mass bombardements that destroyed most (now intact) cities, that 2 worldwars costed them (imperial germany and follow ups) 10-12 million people in 31 years, that their "pride" about their germany has been destroyed by a madman (who live in munich) and his brutal followers.. i could see unfortunatly very angry imp-germans killing these "young boys" because they run amok about them.
Again nothing i would support, just guessing about what would happen
I do not wish in such scenarios such things happening, but esp. with nazis (or in case of communism with stalin or mao) the neighbours who suffer here will react not perfectly human and cultural okay. At last that is my impression about that.
Another example:Think about Amritsa (1921).. think about timewarp of the soldiers who slaughered 2-3000 unarmed indian civilians, then warp em in 2018... same place, same date. What do you think will happen to these british killers? Do you think they will survive or would they be catched and then teared in parts by a very angry and unhappy mob?
Remember, i wrote in the dutch moved into the past-scenario that you need such high cultivated and liberal society to keep things peaceful, but even them would propably not give Adolf Hitler security, if he flees across the border (hunted by angry mob on the german side of the border). At last i cannot see this. Some people, who commited such gigantic evil crimes will loose their protecion, even if it would be MUCH better if we modern people would stay democratic, liberal and fair.
So finally - and repeated: i do not WISH such crimes (and it would be a crime to kill Heinrich HImmler, 13 years old for crimes he hadn´t done now), i just expect them to happen. Hope you see the difference? If not, i welcome a pn.
Thanks