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Post by stevep on Oct 3, 2018 16:00:10 GMT
If Brazil is getting close to a nuclear bomb and the other big two - would they be Argentina and Chile - not far behind that would complicate matters for the US in S America as it creates the potential for a local
The British are going to love that, but even if Argentina get a bomb, the British have enough to turn Argentina into a giant parking space.
Well as Simon said in the other thread Argentina is a lot more aware of how totally outclassed here, even if it came to trying to attack the Patagonian colony of Prydain. Plus it sounds like Britain has even more economic influence than OTL.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 3, 2018 16:03:40 GMT
The British are going to love that, but even if Argentina get a bomb, the British have enough to turn Argentina into a giant parking space. Well as Simon said in the other thread Argentina is a lot more aware of how totally outclassed here, even if it came to trying to attack the Patagonian colony of Prydain. Plus it sounds like Britain has even more economic influence than OTL.
So i wonder if we might see something like the South American dreadnought race but then ofcourse called the South American atomic race between Brazil, Argentina and maybe Chili also joining.
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Post by stevep on Oct 3, 2018 16:39:11 GMT
Well as Simon said in the other thread Argentina is a lot more aware of how totally outclassed here, even if it came to trying to attack the Patagonian colony of Prydain. Plus it sounds like Britain has even more economic influence than OTL.
So i wonder if we might see something like the South American dreadnought race but then ofcourse called the South American atomic race between Brazil, Argentina and maybe Chili also joining.
If both Brazil and Argentina get bombs you would probably have a position not too different to OTL India and Pakistan, which could be very worrying. I remember listening to the reports of the A bomb tests by the two nations in the late 90's and some sort of conflict looked all too likely at that point.
Chile might be the 3rd of the 'big three' in S America as it was the 3rd player in the historical naval races. However you could end up with Peru, Columbia or Venezuela having a more significant economy, population and hence military capacity. Which would make a difference as it wouldn't be Argentina being piggy in the middle with two neighbours it had poor relations with on either side of it.
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 4, 2018 6:20:52 GMT
Some interesting points of discussion, gentlemen
A few salient points regarding South America:
1.) There are strong parallels with the pre WW1 dreadnought arms race. 2.) The 1930s Chaco War turned into a full scale continental conflict, drawing in virtually every nation in competing alliance blocs. It was bloody but brief. The whole of South America was used as a proxy area for European conflicts between 1870 and 1914. 3.)Brazil, as outlined, is an Empire, but one with several different power blocs, including the Trotskyites. It is the largest nation on the continent in size, population and economic strength, although it has a way to go before it catches up to Argentina in terms of industry. 4.) Argentina hasn't hit some of the problems which knocked it down from its early 20th century First World status and still enjoys quite a strong economic relationship with the British Empire. The military coup that lead to Peron did not occur, for a number of reasons, and he is not a factor. The long term trends and forces that lead to his rise still exist and a strongly nationalist government takes power in mid 1960, a decade and a half after the historical counterpart on Earth. They need to tread a but more carefully, given the different international situation. 5.) Not having the southern Patagonian provinces does not detract too much from Argentine population or economic strength, at least how it stands in 1960, with potential oil and mining wealth in the future. 6.)Chile is a quietly growing power in both military and economic terms and is the clear third in the pecking order. 7.)Venezuela and Colombia have some potential, but the only way they could really stand out against the ABC states is in a new Gran Colombia, which isn't a starter for a variety of reasons. 8.)All of the South American governments have an understanding of where they sit in the global pecking order, at least at this point.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 5, 2018 11:40:51 GMT
Some interesting points of discussion, gentlemen A few salient points regarding South America: 1.) There are strong parallels with the pre WW1 dreadnought arms race. 2.) The 1930s Chaco War turned into a full scale continental conflict, drawing in virtually every nation in competing alliance blocs. It was bloody but brief. The whole of South America was used as a proxy area for European conflicts between 1870 and 1914. 3.)Brazil, as outlined, is an Empire, but one with several different power blocs, including the Trotskyites. It is the largest nation on the continent in size, population and economic strength, although it has a way to go before it catches up to Argentina in terms of industry. 4.) Argentina hasn't hit some of the problems which knocked it down from its early 20th century First World status and still enjoys quite a strong economic relationship with the British Empire. The military coup that lead to Peron did not occur, for a number of reasons, and he is not a factor. The long term trends and forces that lead to his rise still exist and a strongly nationalist government takes power in mid 1960, a decade and a half after the historical counterpart on Earth. They need to tread a but more carefully, given the different international situation. 5.) Not having the southern Patagonian provinces does not detract too much from Argentine population or economic strength, at least how it stands in 1960, with potential oil and mining wealth in the future. 6.)Chile is a quietly growing power in both military and economic terms and is the clear third in the pecking order. 7.)Venezuela and Colombia have some potential, but the only way they could really stand out against the ABC states is in a new Gran Colombia, which isn't a starter for a variety of reasons. 8.)All of the South American governments have an understanding of where they sit in the global pecking order, at least at this point. So what about countries like Peru, are they a factor in South America ore just tools for the big boys to play with.
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 5, 2018 14:37:41 GMT
Peru and Bolivia dislike each other and are on a level with Colombia and Venezuela in terms of relative power. Peru is the 'best of the rest' after the ABC states.
Notes on Part 6:
- California has some very different cultural development trends and lacks a border with Mexico. - Indian migration to the USA has some interesting consequences, prior to the general tightening up of regulations from the late 19th century. - Zorro is a historical character and may get a future appearance. - Something very strange is going on in Africa. Thompson may be a bit too charitable towards Stalin Jr's word on the matter. - Whatever its cause, it throws fuel on the anti colonial fire in the USA. - Brazil is going to be an interesting place... - Crocker Jarmon is from the 1972 film 'The Candidate'. - Reagan is moving quite steadily to the right. - The film he is referring to is the Dark Earth version of 'The Longest Day', a Technicolor epic featuring Reagan as the General Thompson, Eisenhower and Rommel as themselves, George C. Scott as Patton, Charlton Heston as a USN battleship captain, Gregory Peck as Omar Bradley and many more. - Senator McCarthy is still alive, albeit a shadow of what he once was. - Nixon on the Supreme Court; we'll hear from him in the final instalment of this tale. - Multiple first generation CVNs. - USS President is a Monitor class guided missile super battlecruiser; details are available and we'll hear from her sisters eventually.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 5, 2018 14:41:41 GMT
- The film he is referring to is the Dark Earth version of 'The Longest Day', a Technicolor epic featuring Reagan as the General Thompson, Eisenhower and Rommel as themselves, George C. Scott as Patton, Charlton Heston as a USN battleship captain, Gregory Peck as Omar Bradley and many more. Now that is a movie i loved to have seen.
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 5, 2018 23:36:23 GMT
Unlike any other historical Western produced film, it will show something of the sheer scope of D-Day, through the use of real ships and very impressive special effects.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 22, 2018 15:08:00 GMT
From Sea to Shining Sea Part 7
It was warm for an early winter's morn, even for the rarified sunny climes of Florida, and Roger Thompson welcomed it. The sunlight had already begun to flood over the horizon, although dawn itself was still some way off. This would prove to be a long and particularly cold season, if the beginning was anything to go by, with the days ebbing by until Kennedy's January inauguration. After then...well, after then he could begin the next stage of his journey, back home to Texas and then to a new future. There would be enough time for that when it came, though; sufficient unto the day was the evil thereof, after all. One part of him just wanted the whole business to be over and done with, but another, far greater, made him hove to his duty, as ever. This was his time and his watch and no man could ever say that Roger Thompson did not give his all.
The Little White House at Naval Station Key West had been a welcome retreat for Thompson on more than one occasion during his years in Washington. He did feel more at ease in the company of soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines rather than the endless array of politicians, crawlers and influence seekers that flocked to his presence like moths to a flame and the relative ease of security arrangements at Key West met with approval from his Secret Service protection detail. Two battalions of the 20th Marine Regiment stood on guard around the base, whilst offshore, the USS Oriskany and her battle group were anchored to ward off any malign interference with his fleeting vacation. A tell-tale flicker of iridescent light on the horizon out to sea indicated the arcane barrier erected by his sorcerous guardian. All said, it was a fairly safe way to break his fast.
Thompson sipped his freshly squeezed orange juice and put down his morning briefing paper. Truth be told, there was little need for all the security, given that the Caribbean Sea had essentially returned to its old status as an American and British lake since the end of the final gasps of the war, but it never hurt to be careful. The Mexicans were staging a naval exercise in the Bay of Campeche, pointedly directed at Yucatan, but Admiral Burke had assured him that the New Jersey would be sufficient as an indication of the desire of the United States that they play nicely. Maximillian was up to his old tricks again, apparently, although to what end remained an ongoing mystery. There had been no nonsense along the southern border wall - not that the Mexicans could do much against the combined ditches, concertina wire, fences and fifty-foot high wall itself short of war - so this was probably what CIA surmised, more internal political positioning carried out on the high seas.
It seemed, for once, that it would be a quiet day...even a good one. The bloodshed and chaos in Africa that flared up just over a week ago had simmered down, at least in the Spanish and Portuguese colonies. The Congo was boiling over, but not in any new or surprising fashion. He'd been putting a great deal of pressure on Brussels to make immediate concessions and lay out a roadmap towards eventual independence, as, in the end, Central Africa was little more than a quagmire that would drain Belgian strength away from Western Europe where it really mattered. They had demurred, manoeuvred and sought to put off any concrete steps until next year, thinking that the new president would prove to be more malleable, so he had been forced to disabuse them of this impression. In a cool and short meeting with the Belgian ambassador yesterday, he had laid out a number of financial options available to him, which had been received very glumly by Baron Silvercruys. He hoped that they would see sense; they had until December 31st to start playing ball.
The wider world was more settled, for once. Japan had come to the party at the Vancouver Conference, just as he hoped they would. The Chinese space rocket test launch of the 15th had the expected effect of spooking them into cooperation and Jeff had come through with a workable deal. Tanaka had agreed to quieten the issue of a Japanese bomb in return for a ten year compact on American oil supplies, a commercial treaty and the biggest arms deal of Thompson's years in the White House. 480 Phantoms and a generous licenced production agreement between McDonnell and Mitsubishi, hundreds of Super Falcon and Eagle missiles, 200 F-111s and long range ground based radars. The discussions on submarine reactors would be a tar baby for Jack Kennedy, though. He seemed to be saying that a lot, lately. The Brits were up to something with Japan as well, but both sides were keeping their cards pretty close to their chest at this stage.
Australia had been very pleased about the joint USN-RN carrier visit and signals intercepts had indicated that it had the desired affect on the Indonesian leadership. Anything that gave them and their masters in the Kremlin pause was a success. The Aussies were still going into overdrive in response to Sukarno's atomic ambitions and just in the last week, they had announced that the RAAF would acquire two dozen more Vulcans and fifty Black Arrows and expansion of their Paras, Commandos and Special Forces. Behind closed doors, they had responded positively towards US offers of Phantom sales, although Indy they were more likely to go for the Merlin as a land-based fighter due to the range issue; once again, they had been rather more interested in the F-111, which would provide them with a big rise in capability from their Canberras.
In the Middle East, the Arabs were starting to get restless again, but the nationalists were playing a much more complex game now than five years ago. They were working with the British, or at least forcing them to live up to their own policy and public rhetoric, and playing off all the great powers. The Hashemite kings were not sitting back idly, either, being extremely cognisant that they would have to ride this tiger or be devoured by it. It did come down to oil at the end of the day. As the wealth of their nations grew from the oceans black gold beneath their desert sands, so did their clout. That Arabian minister, Ismail al-Rashid, was a very canny one. His proposed plan for gradual steps of political, economic and military unification as a path towards a federal alliance of Arab states was seductively simple, promising as it did to maintain the sovereignty of individual states and their monarchs; the rotating high kingship or whatever he had termed it was a clever touch. If such an initiative could be encouraged, then the Middle East could be on the path to something like stability, balancing out the relative power position of Turkey and Persia. That was a very long term game, though.
It even seemed as if Vietnam was heading towards a quieter end to a year that had seen a gradual improvement in security. The French continued to insist that they had matters well in hand, but the storm clouds of insurgency had never really cleared since the interim peace and partition that followed the Geneva Conference back before he had been catapulted into office. The verdict of his own advisers and military experts was somewhat more circumspect, but the balance of current opinion was that the Reds were definitely on the back foot and would be facing eventual defeat just as they had in Malaya. The combination of funding, intelligence and advisors from the United States and British Commonwealth and the firepower of the French Armée d’Orient had proved an effective one thus far.
Yes, there were good reasons to look forward to the future with some hope, despite the shadow of the wider conflict that lay over the world. Back here at home, things were definitely changing and this last election was in many ways a harbinger of things to come. His own victory in 1956 had been an outlier, due in large part to the untimely death of Taft the previous year and the war; even then, the South had broken fairly solidly for Harriman and he had taken the Republican heartland of New England in a canter. This year, Kennedy had taken a large part of the North East, whilst he had won Florida and Virginia, as well as the border states. He’d come within a sliver of taking Texas and the election with it, whilst the Carolinas and Georgia were within striking distance. The old certainties of the Solid South could no longer be counted on by the Democrats, as populations and policies shifted. The parties themselves had been moving towards something of a realignment for a few decades now, with the Democrats drifting steadily towards ardent liberalism since 1932 under FDR and Truman, whilst the Republicans had very much put themselves into the corner of conservatism, both fiscal and social. This was a trend that looked only to increase, a view supported not by analysts and political wizards alike. If the more traditionalist wing of the Southern Democrats who hadn’t already broken to the Conservative Party could be rounded up, then there was a good chance that the South could turn blue. Whoever received the GOP nomination in 1964 would have an interesting opportunity, although as always, the Midwest remained the ultimate fulcrum of national electoral success.
He’ll need good ground to fight on, thought Thompson as he relished his last sip of coffee before the business of the day would begin. He’d left the economy in good shape and national defense and foreign policy were areas of strong agreement. The Depression was still within recent memory, making some of the more strident criticisms of Social Security a bit too extreme for Main Street USA. It looked like it would be healthcare, which was a battle Thompson was glad to leave to another man. It never had aroused any burning passions deep within him the way that world affairs and the existential battle of the Cold War did. As things stood, it would be a battlefield that held a decent chance of success, given Harry Truman’s failures to push through national healthcare back in the 40s.
Regardless of those questions of the future, today held something else that would only grow in importance for the United States as the 1960s went forward, whoever had the honour of being at its helm. A short half hour jet flight to Cape Canaveral and then he would see the fruits of NASA’s work. This was about more than just prestige, a quick voyage to the moons, or even the fabled notion of a round trip to Mars in under four months. There were challenges to those objectives from the USSR, Britain and China, but this was something greater. The success of this Sea Dragon test launch would push America definitively into the lead for the greatest race of all, that to Jupiter and to Saturn and the vastness of space beyond. If there had been one thing that had driven the United States over the last century, it had been the frontier, pushing forward beyond it through endeavour and a spirit of adventure. Roger Thompson arose from his table as the sun crested the horizon and walked purposefully out of the brightening breakfast room onto the well-kept lawns. His Secret Service detail peeled off seamlessly to surround him on his way to his waiting car.
Now it was time to set out once again, slipping the surly bonds of earth and questing out into space, the new frontier.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 23, 2018 13:43:50 GMT
There is a lot of information filtering through in this instalment, which is the penultimate one for this storyline. Some of them are big hints to 1960s developments. I'll put together some notes in due course, but for now, a few thoughts on the Australian situation:
- The decision to go for F-111s reflects the urgency of the RAAF's specific and Australia's requirements in general. The British Thunderbolt bombers could replace the Canberra very effectively, but won't be around until the latter part of the decade, whereas the F-111s would be available much sooner. This is a much more preferable situation for Australia. - In terms of fighters, the preference is for the longer range Merlins over the Phantoms, as the air-sea gap between Indonesia and Australia is already being recognised as a vital area to control. - Further rearmament will follow in a variety of ways.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 25, 2018 15:24:49 GMT
Part 7 Notes
- The Mexican naval exercise is a bit of showboating aimed at impressing Yucatan and Central America. - The wall along the Mexican border began as a result of troubles in the 1910s and has been gradually reinforced over the years, with a large part of construction occurring in 1940 and 1941 as part of considerable improvements in home defence of CONUS. In the postwar period, Mexico has taken a bit of a shift towards increasingly strident nationalism, which has chilled the border.It extends from the Gulf of Mexico to the Sea of Cortes. - Pressuring the Belgians will result in their acquiescence by virtue of their much smaller size, but it will have some rather complex results. The Congo will be an interesting place in the 1960s, in the Chinese sense of the word. - Japan's agreement ties them into the US security network in the Pacific, but not as close as in @. - The IJN and IJAF are building up very capable aerial forces; the F-111s will be one of their crown jewels. - I envisage the IJN building SSNs with US assistance by the end of the 1960s. - Anglo-Japanese cooperation has been hinted at in the Timeline. - Australia is very concerned by the security threat posed by Red Indonesia and anything that occurs in Western New Guinea will be viewed internationally in quite a different context. - Arab nationalism and pan-Arabism is not dead, but is progressing in a different manner. It lacks the socialist and grandiose edge of Nasser and pointedly Egypt has not been mentioned; Egyptian nationalism has developed in a different fashion, with some definite elements of Pharaonism. - What is looking likely in the Middle East as a first step is something like the Arab Federation writ large, with the rotating high kingship coming from Malaysia in @. - Thompson's confidence on Vietnam may be misplaced, but it is in a very different position than in @. - 1964 is shaping up as a very interesting election, with a number of elements that played heavily historically being absent, such as Civil Rights and a recently assassinated President Kennedy. - Thompson is a quite honest fellow and domestic policy, particularly healthcare, never really lit a fire in his breast. - Sea Dragon is one of a few heavy lift rockets that will get a work out in the 1960s as the race for Jupiter and Saturn kicks off. - The final line is a hat tip to another storyline which follows on from this one.
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Post by stevep on Dec 25, 2018 19:43:33 GMT
Part 7 Notes- The Mexican naval exercise is a bit of showboating aimed at impressing Yucatan and Central America. - The wall along the Mexican border began as a result of troubles in the 1910s and has been gradually reinforced over the years, with a large part of construction occurring in 1940 and 1941 as part of considerable improvements in home defence of CONUS. In the postwar period, Mexico has taken a bit of a shift towards increasingly strident nationalism, which has chilled the border.It extends from the Gulf of Mexico to the Sea of Cortes. - Pressuring the Belgians will result in their acquiescence by virtue of their much smaller size, but it will have some rather complex results. The Congo will be an interesting place in the 1960s, in the Chinese sense of the word. - Japan's agreement ties them into the US security network in the Pacific, but not as close as in @. - The IJN and IJAF are building up very capable aerial forces; the F-111s will be one of their crown jewels. - I envisage the IJN building SSNs with US assistance by the end of the 1960s. - Anglo-Japanese cooperation has been hinted at in the Timeline. - Australia is very concerned by the security threat posed by Red Indonesia and anything that occurs in Western New Guinea will be viewed internationally in quite a different context. - Arab nationalism and pan-Arabism is not dead, but is progressing in a different manner. It lacks the socialist and grandiose edge of Nasser and pointedly Egypt has not been mentioned; Egyptian nationalism has developed in a different fashion, with some definite elements of Pharaonism. - What is looking likely in the Middle East as a first step is something like the Arab Federation writ large, with the rotating high kingship coming from Malaysia in @. - Thompson's confidence on Vietnam may be misplaced, but it is in a very different position than in @. - 1964 is shaping up as a very interesting election, with a number of elements that played heavily historically being absent, such as Civil Rights and a recently assassinated President Kennedy. - Thompson is a quite honest fellow and domestic policy, particularly healthcare, never really lit a fire in his breast. - Sea Dragon is one of a few heavy lift rockets that will get a work out in the 1960s as the race for Jupiter and Saturn kicks off. - The final line is a hat tip to another storyline which follows on from this one.
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Well "Now it was time to set out once again, slipping the surly bonds of earth and questing out into space, the new frontier." the surly bonds of earth I thought was from the bard but was from a Canadian poet who died in WWII relating to his service in Bomber Command whereas space the new frontier is a term being used about the development of private companies in the space race. I suspect its somewhere between the two with a new space race developing but with multiple powers involved?
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 26, 2018 2:04:09 GMT
Slipping the surly bonds of Earth refers to RCAF fighter pilot John Gillespie Magee's poem 'High Flight' and the second part is from the 1964 story 'Space: The New Frontier'.
That has two influences - the Kennedy idea of the New Frontier and a take off of Star Trek.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 26, 2018 10:29:47 GMT
Just reading back over some earlier entries and noticed a note regarding USN aircraft that will be employed by the USAF.
Currently, there are the F-4s and A-4 Skyhawks. They will be joined by the F8 Crusader III and there is a nominal forced interest in the early stages of the VAX supersonic light attack fighter development programme.
The FX, A-X and LSF programmes will result in some familiar yet interesting aircraft, while the BX could well result in something like the FB-111H.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jan 3, 2019 18:07:30 GMT
From Sea to Shining Sea Part 8
President Roger Thompson considered it a fairly rare occurrence that he would look forward to an impromptu meeting, particularly on the minutiae of mobilisation planning, but these were very special circumstances. The threat was real and he had to take whatever measures he could to avoid it.
“Aww, Dad, you said we were going to play Stratego!”
“Now then, David. You know that work is work and I can’t get away from it.”
“But, Dad!”
“David.” A single look of admonishment at his pleading was enough.
“Yes, sir.”
“That’s better. Now go and see if Ricky will play with you.”
“Ricky? He’s just a little kid.” David Thompson flumphed away haughtily to the other side of the room, much aggrieved at the thought that a mature and grown up nine year old should have to stoop to playing with his six and a half year old little brother. Perhaps the First Dog would indulge him, although Buddy seemed to be settled back in the armchair, glasses perched on the end of his nose as he was absorbed in his copy of Marcus Aurelius’s Meditations. Life was full of injustices
His father sighed, got up from his chair and wended his way over Ricky's abandoned train set and Jack's idle armies of toy soldiers, thanking his lucky stars that Karen and Sally had decided to play dolls in another room of the residence. He did not begrudge them their play, nor did he eschew the opportunity to spend time with his children, as they were growing up far too quickly. But, every man had his limits and Thompson's was seventeen games of Stratego in this case. There would be many more games to come, though, and more Yuletide seasons.
Outside the White House, a blanket of white snow covered the lawns and gardens and the sun shone wanly through a cloudy winter's day. It was strange that this would be the last Christmas he would spend here, although not in a bad way. He'd spent much of the last month caught up with the hectic demands of travel that came with the transition to a new Presidency, criss-crossing America to make his farewells and pay his political debts.
His ubiquitous escort peeled off their stations at the door of the Yellow Oval Room as he entered the hallway and by the time he reached the Cabinet Room, a small procession was with him. Inside, Sam Atkinson, Jack Burgundy, Jefferson Smith, Dr. Henry Jones, Secretary of Defense Thomas Gates and General Maxwell Taylor awaited him and rose as he entered. Their faces were grim and tight, speaking of something beyond the matter of war plans and the ongoing talks with Moscow.
"Thank you gentlemen, please take a seat. OK, Indy, what have we got today?"
" Mr. President, today we have the revisions to the general mobilisation plan in light of the planned deployments to Europe, the preliminary groundwork with the Soviets and the Arab proposal. First and foremost, though, there is the substance of the note that the French Ambassador delivered to the Secretary of State a few minutes ago."
"Let's have a look at it, Jeff."
Thompson quickly read the two short paragraphs and then looked up at the members of the National Security Council. "Well, never let it be said that the French can't get to the point, even when it is of our own petard."
In other circumstances, this may have raised a smile.
"Setting aside how they got the details of our proposed agreement with the British for the moment, they do raise a very interesting point, Mr. President." Dr. Jones's brow was furrowed as if he was ruminating on a peculiar point of archaeological discourse. "They're being asked to swallow more with regard to Germany and get less out of a general renewal of the Atlantic Alliance. From their perspective, there are very good grounds as to why they should be involved in a special arrangement along with Britain."
"Devil's advocate is all well and good, Dr. Jones, but on objective grounds of our interests and position as the leading power of the Free World, we simply cannot concede to their terms. The agreement with England is difficult enough to reconcile, let alone cutting in Paris on virtually the same terms." Gates spoke forcefully, driven in a none too small way by his own misgivings regarding the whole British deal.
"You're preaching to the choir here, Thomas. There would be no basis for Congressional support for a further arrangement with France, particularly on top of the disgruntlement with how they've handled Vietnam." Thompson sat back reflectively.
"The thing is, they know that too." said General Burgundy, his gruff brows furrowed. "There is nothing for France to gain from essentially threatening to scuttle the deal for the whole of Western Europe."
"Never underestimate a Frenchmen's sense of honour, Jack. It is highly attuned to the perception of a slight." Smith's words were tinged with disappointment, as they always tended to be when men and nations did not live up to his high ideals. "I've dealt with them for years and this doesn't come across as a ploy, but as the real deal."
There was a murmur of agreement around the table. Perhaps the biggest driving force in French policy since the war had been the pursuit of grandeur, or la gloire as the Gallic fellows tended to put it. France had been very badly damaged by the experience of Nazi occupation and her days of acting as an independent great power of global import were considered more or less doomed by Washington, Moscow and London, yet despite this, or perhaps because of it, her leadership had been almost fanatically focussed on preserving France’s role at the top table. Their dogged persistence in Indochina, their ongoing firm stance in colonial Africa and the clinging to even a minor role in the Levant – all stemmed from the indefatigable French resistance to the tides of history and power. The most striking manifestation of it came in their European policy, which had stymied any effective reconciliation with Germany over the annexation of the Saar and strangled the supranationalist dreams of the Monnetists in their cradle.
And now, when the ruptures of 1956 looked like they were on the brink of being knitted together into a renewed and powerful bond between North America and Western Europe, the French government had decided to deliver this bombshell. In characteristically flowery diplomatic language, it had stated that, notwithstanding previous undertakings, France would find it impossible to participate in an alliance structure that was fundamentally inimicable to her position as a sovereign great power and did not provided for her to be regarded as being on an equal footing with the United States and Britain.
"I am not going to bequeath a gosh-awful mess like this to Jack Kennedy, not when we're so close to a lasting pact. Failure is not an option, gentlemen. How do we get past this?"
There was a long, pronounced silence before Sam Atkinson began to speak slowly. "Obliquely. We give them what they need rather than what they want, but do it in such a way..."
"As they can characterise it as a victory for them and their main goal." Dr. Jones finished excitedly. "We don't give them parity with the Brits, but something they can pass off as such for their own consumption."
"It would need to be substantial, yet not beyond reason. We can throw in a few sweeteners on the side, such as integration in the joint command structures for relevant theatres such as South East Asia and Africa and some more appropriate roles for their generals as we've done in Germany. We just need the biggest carrot we can find to bring it all together." Thompson began to warm to the task and finally slapped the table and broke out into a grin.
"Got it. Skybolt. We offer them, say, 300 Skybolts, and agree to cover a large part of the cost under Mutual Defense Aid."
The men at the table looked around at each other and one by one began to nod. Skybolt could well work. It was a major system that would suit France's needs extremely well without being seen to be compromising the sovereignty of their atomic deterrent in the same manner that a land or sea based missile might and it was something that they could not afford to develop on their own. The French had pushed themselves near to breaking point to field the S-2 ICBM and the M-1 SLBM, even if they were only nominal capacities at this point. It would cost several hundred million dollars, but that was a price that the United States could afford to bear.
“That would involve at the very least coordinating them with the SIOP, Mr. President. It has been a complex enough task with regard to the British.” General Taylor looked thoughtful as he spoke. “We can work that primarily through our links with the French Air Force rather than their politicians, but there will still need to be something or someone to iron that out…”
“I believe I can sort that out; I know just the fellow for it. He’s visiting tomorrow.”
“He would definitely suffice, sir. It would also be rather beneficial if the French could be bought into the international contingency force structure for the Middle East; they have the forces in North Africa and the Mediterranean, after all, and it frees up more of our own forces for other eventualities.”
“Good idea, Max. We can prepare a response to the note to that effect, then, Jeff.”
“As you say, Mr. President.”
“Very well, that brings us onto mobilisation. Indy?”
“Yes, sir. Our current plans have been based around the previous paradigm and they did not work as effectively as designed when we moved to enact them last April. Loading and shipping two heavy corps across the Atlantic by sea, disembarking in the European ports and moving into their wartime stations in Germany was initiated on March 30, but only completed on April 20th. Similarly, our movement of three infantry divisions by air took longer than anticipated, being ordered on April 1st and completed by April 12th, and the deployment of 80 tactical fighter squadrons was constrained by logistical bottlenecks.
Had war broken out, we would not have been able to move the balance of our heavy forces to Europe within an appreciable timeframe. The subsequent secret study by the Rand Corporation into the performance of the entire mobilisation plan made a number of significant recommendations, chief among which is that the Korean War era shipping calculations require full revision. Even though they are less than ten years old, they are verging on obsolescence due to the large increases in the number of land and aerial vehicles operated by armoured and mechanised divisions and the subsequent dramatic rise in Class III, V, VII and IX supplies. Put simply, it takes more shipping tonnage, volume and time to shift a smaller number of divisions across the Atlantic and this needs appropriate action.
Our current requirement under the General Strategic Defensive Plan is for the following forces to be in place in Europe by 30 days after M-Day: 24 Regular Army and 12 National Guard divisions in Central Europe and 4 divisions for Scandinavia; 50 TAC and 50 Air National Guard squadrons; and two Marine Amphibious Forces on the northern and southern flanks. Our standing forces over there will amount to 8 divisions in 4 corps in Germany, Austria-Hungary and Italy and 96 squadrons by the end of 1961, with an equipment set for an additional heavy division assigned to each corps. The personnel of each division would be based in the Continental United States and be airlifted over to augment the forward corps upon mobilisation, whilst keeping to the undertakings agreed upon with the Soviets regarding standing forces in Central Europe.
That initial component of 12 divisions is seen as capable of only limited defensive operations against offensive action by the Warsaw Pact. Therefore, the main need for the Army is the deployment of a minimum of 12 divisions along with further supplies from CONUS by M + 14 by air and sea. It would take a minimum of 36 hours from the receipt of Presidential authorisation for the airlift to fully begin in earnest, with the 24 hours spent in alerting units, recalling personnel and preparing for deployment. Our aim is for the personnel of the four round-out divisions for the forward corps to be airlifted into theatre within 72 hours, followed by the first elements of the heavy divisions from CONUS, with their equipment to arrive within 6 days. It is envisaged that two field army headquarters would also be deployed to control and coordinate the wartime force structure. There are a number of proposed ways this could be accomplished, but all of the variations outlined in Appendix 3 involve some further level of pre-placement of equipment.
This force would need to be supported in Europe by substantial pre-placement of supplies, vehicles, ammunition, POL and other assorted equipment in theatre, specifically in Britain, France and Italy; the continuing construction of base infrastructure to support this supply network; and the establishment of two specific groups of ports of debarkation to allow for efficient movement to the front. The proposed arrangements with Britain greatly assist this process, as the British Isles serve as a secure logistical base area. At home, the four major East Coast Ports of Embarkation in New York, Boston, Hampton Roads and Charleston will need to be modernised and the military sections of the Interstate Railway System prioritised.
The bulk of the United States Merchant Marine remains wartime construction, although there have been some useful increases in tankers, bulk carriers and the new container ships. These will need to be augmented by the new subsidised construction fast cargo ships and the ocean liners; the performance of the SS United States and the SS America earlier this year remains as one of the positive features of the process, each taking a reinforced infantry division across to France in a week, with top speeds of just over 40 knots. The new construction 25,000t Comet-type vehicle landing ships and the superheavy Fast Cargo Ship being built for Military Sea Transport Command are a welcome addition to the fleet. The specific sealift requirements are listed in Appendix Four of the briefing paper, but at a minimum, 30 Comets and 12 FCSs are required; the six nuclear powered merchant cargo ships in service or under construction would also be utilised.
Air Transport Command’s Twenty-First Air Force will replace its C-124s, C-125s and C-135s with the new C-141s by 1963/4, but the C-100s and C-133s will remain in service for the better part of the 1960s unless the development of the CX superheavy transport is expedited. They would be augmented by the Civil Reserve Air Fleet, which currently has 1239 aircraft in the international section, ranging from DC-4s to modern jets. Their 12 skyships are a strategic asset of vital importance and it has been recommended that a minimum of twelve more be built as a matter of highest priority; flying 5000 tons of cargo or 50 tanks across the Atlantic in two days allows the rest of the air bridge to function more efficiently. There is a recommendation in the report for an increase of the overall strategic air fleet from 15 to 24 wings.”
Dr. Jones put down his papers and looked across at Thompson. “That just about covers it, Mr. President. We can successfully complete the mission, but building the required ships, planes and bases will take some time, perhaps 5 or 6 years.”
“How would that leave us regarding the requirements for contingencies in the Far East and Middle East?”
“We would be able to simultaneously move troops, aircraft and equipment to the Far East and Middle East, but not at the same time as launching a full reinforcement of Europe. The shipping requirements for that type of mission would be considerably larger.”
“OK. Have an executive summary drawn up with the key recommendations set out in detail and I’ll discuss it with President-Elect Kennedy. Let us hope that the French will be satisfied with their Christmas present.”
“Yes, Mr. President.”
………………………………………………………………………………………….. December 23rd 1960
The morning air was cool and fresh, although the snow had stopped just before dawn. President Thompson stood under the North Portico entrance to the White House, his family beside him, all coated and hatted suitably for the occasion and watched as the motorcade wound its way up from the Pennsylvania Avenue gate. The Rolls-Royce Phantom V drew to a smooth halt at the marble steps and the U.S. Presidential Guard company arrayed along the path presented arms crisply as the United States Marine Band struck up ‘God Save the Queen’.
As the door opened, a huge bearded figure emerged, long snowy white hair streaming below the collar of his black frock coat as he stooped to exit the car. He held himself proudly at attention as the anthem concluded, then bounded up the steps, a large hand held out and bright blue eyes flashing with friendship
Ricky Thompson gave a short gasp. “Is…is that…Santa?” he whispered in awe. David Thompson rolled his eyes in exasperation and leaned over to correct his little brother. “No, you dummy, that’s the Prime Minister of Canada.”
Any further education was cut short by a sharp jab in the back and shushing from Jack, who chose to forget making the same mistake back when he was five.
“Good morning, Prime Minister. Welcome to the White House.”
“Good day, Mr. President! Good day to you, Mrs Thompson! Merry Christmas to you all!” Sir William Richardson boomed in his unmistakeable voice, full of laughter and cheer. “How have you been, neighbour?”
“Very well indeed, Sir William, and all the better for your visit. Shall we come along inside?”
“Lead the way, old boy.”
Richardson, his entourage and the Thompsons made their way back into the White House, Rebecca Thompson steering the children away back towards the residence, where they would take lunch with the Prime Minister later on. The President and Prime Minister and their staff headed up to the Oval Office, where the brief formal business of the visit could be completed.
“Mr. President, I’m happy to tell you that the proposed revisions to the NORAD Agreement have been unanimously approved by the Canadian cabinet and the cabinets of all of the other British North American Dominions, including the West Indies.”
“That’s great to hear, Sir William. There was some concern that the issue of the deployment of U.S. nuclear armed missiles on Canadian territory would be an area of some difficulty.”
“Recent events lead to an alteration in some opinions on the issue, both at home and in Newfoundland.” Sir William smiled broadly, referring to the volte face of some in his own party after the formalisation of the Anglo-American accord. The opposition to anything that smacked of continentalism or any compromise on sovereignty ran deep within the Conservative Party and Richardson had had to use much of his considerable authority and persuasive power to force through even this.
“Many at the Pentagon would have viewed it as preferable if you’d given way on Alaska, but that is entirely understandable.”
General Turgidson, sitting behind the President, gave a momentary grimace. He had been one of the chief proponents of the losing argument and he did not like losing.
“That would have been a step too far, particularly when we would still provide the majority of the forces for its defence. At any rate, we have already increased our RCAF presence with an additional fighter wing at Galena, joining the others at Anchorage and Fort Alfred. The security of Alaska is well in hand.”
“Indeed. Now, there is something you can do for us…” Thompson passed over a piece of paper to Richardson. “If you could relay this request to General De Gaulle and emphasise its importance, we would be grateful.”
Sir William slipped out a pair of spectacles, quickly read the details of the missive, and looked up. “What leeway would be available?”
“Very little.” If anyone could convince the French, it would be the oldest and most respected leader in the West, a man whose word was iron.
“It shall be done.” Richardson nodded and rose. “Now, neighbour, what about that luncheon? This old white haired man from the Far North has some presents for those children of yours.”
………………………………………………………………………………………… January 17th, 1961
At last, it had come to this.
Thompson sat up straight in his chair, fixed his eyes upon the camera and began his address.
“My fellow Americans,
Three days from now, after thirty-two years in the service of our country, I shall lay down the responsibilities of this office as, in the solemn tradition of ceremony, the authority of the Presidency is vested in my successor.
This evening, I come to you to bid farewell and to share a few final thoughts with you, my fellow citizens.
Like every other one of my countrymen and women, I bid the new President, and all who will labour with him, Godspeed and good fortune. I pray that Almighty God will bless the coming years with peace and prosperity for all.
I have nothing but eternal gratitude for the opportunity I have been given to be of service to my country. I am thankful to the Congress for their goodwill and cooperation and am grateful for what we have been able to achieve forever.
We now stand ten years past the midpoint of a century that has bore witness to five major wars among great nations. Four of these have involved our own country. Despite this woe and destruction, the United States of America has risen to become undoubtedly the strongest, most prosperous and indeed the greatest among the nations of the world. We can be rightly proud for what we have achieved, but should be ever mindful that our prestige and position of leadership rests not only on the power of our armies and fleets or our unmatched material progress, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and the betterment of all mankind.
America is more than a nation. It is an ideal, a light on the hill to inspire the world. We can only continue to be such an example by remaining true to our eternal principles of liberty and justice for all. We must keep the peace, foster progress in human achievement as part of mankind’s continued journey ever forward and to defend dignity and integrity amongst all of God’s children. To strive for less would be unworthy of a free and religious people.
This progress towards these noble goals of freedom is threatened by the conflict which engulfs the world and commands our whole attention. We face a hostile ideology – global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insidious in message. We do not know how long this danger may last, but must oppose it every step of the way. To meet the challenges that face us, we will require sacrifice as we bear without complaint the burdens of a prolonged and complex struggle, for the very liberty of the world is at stake. Only with eternal vigilance can we pay the price of freedom.
The United States must keep our arms mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor be tempted to risk his own destruction. We have turned our plowshares into swords and must continue to be prepared in order to keep the hard-won peace. America stands as the defender of the free world and this is our greatest duty and honour. As guardians of the peace, we must ever temper our great strength with great wisdom and strive for understanding and concord among the nations of the world. We have seen how the enemies of all mankind have sought to set us against each other in the most terrible of wars and can never permit it to happen again.
We shall continue to meet crises, be they foreign or domestic, great or small, with courage and determination. We stand at the cusp of a great moment in human history, where we can harness the powers of science and the world for the betterment of all mankind. There is a need to seek balance in our efforts between that which is essential and the comfortably desirable; balance between the public and private economy; and balance between the demands of the present and the national welfare of the future.
Above all, we must balance the question of time. As we look forward into the bright future of society, we – you and I, and our government, must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material wealth of our children and grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. If we wish democracy to survive down the ages, we can never forget our debt and duty to the future.
So, as I bid you good night as your President for the last time, I thank you for all the opportunities you have given me to serve our nation, in war and peace. My only wish has ever been to do my duty to the Constitution and the country.
My fellow citizens, we will need to keep strong our faith that all nations, under God, will strive towards the goal of peace with justice and honour. May we be ever unswerving in devotion to principle, confident but humble with power and diligent in pursuit of the goals of our great nation.
To all the peoples of the world, I extend my foremost wishes and prayers for peace. We pray that peoples of all faiths and all nations may have their great human needs satisfied; that those who suffer may be delivered; that all those who yearn for freedom may experience its true blessing; that those who have freedom will understand, also, its weighty responsibilities; that the scourges of poverty, disease and ignorance will be banished from the earth, and that, in the goodness of time, all mankind will come to live together in a peace guaranteed by mutual respect and universal love.
May God bless you all and may he continue to bless the United States of America.”
…………………………………………………………………………………………. January 20th, 1961
It had been a glorious day in Washington D.C. The Corps of Engineers and the Army’s weather wizards had worked through the early hours of the morning, clearing away the overnight snow and the crowds had flocked to see the grand procession. No fewer than four former Presidents had gathered for the occasion – Roosevelt, Cox, Hoover and Truman, with the ebullient T.R. lapping up the adulation of the crowd on a rare public appearance.
Chief Justice Harlan administered the oath of office to Kennedy on the stroke of noon and the latter had followed with quite a marvellous inaugural address which Thompson thought would be remembered for many years to come. The subsequent military parade down Pennsylvania Avenue by over fifty thousand personnel of the United States Armed Forces put many of the May Day processions so beloved by the Soviets to shame, featuring the latest in American military might, ranging from the Minuteman missile, B-70 Valkyrie and X-20 Dyna-Soar to the M-102 flying tank, CH-47 Chinook and Kaman Rotodyne.
Then it was time for President Roger Thompson, his wife and family to depart, leaving the festivities of the capital to the new President and First Family. As the special mission C-137 soared up into the afternoon skies from Andrews Air Force Base back over the city towards his old home in Texas, he looked behind out of the window of the plane upon the sight below, from the Capitol to the Washington Monument.
After a moment, he turned back to look at his wife and children and smiled. He did not know if he had been a success or a failure as President, although he had had his share of both. He had tried to do his duty, a duty he had never asked for, but carried out nonetheless. What would the people - his people - think of him?
That was a question for history, not for him, Roger Thompson decided.
Now there would be time, time for home and then to see all of America, his America, the beautiful.
From sea to shining sea.
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