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Post by stevep on Jul 13, 2018 9:12:48 GMT
TRS Good to see this again but a couple of small quibbles. a) I think you have your weights slightly off in the fighting in Scotland. For instance "30 kilograms of food" and later "Several pounds of food" are tiny amounts for an army, as opposed to a small squad of say a dozen troops. Not sure how capable the logistics were at the time but if it was say 2-3 wagons/mule-loads of food it would make more sense. b) If by Gibraltar you mean the OTL one its a peninsula not an island? Think that quote was said by the Ottoman emperor about Phillip II of Spain when he deported the remaining 'Muslims' from Spain and the Ottomans offered them refuge. Sounds like your going to have a predominantly Japanese, by culture, Taiwan/Ryukyu that is going either going to be a significant factor, at least in the short term in the region or possibly later a 5th home island of Japan. Ending the electoral nature of the HRE would be a source of a lot of opposition, both by the other major nobles and probably even more so by the papacy as it would make the emperor a lot more powerful and greatly reduce papal influence inside the empire. To a large degree that was what the 30 Years War was about OTL, whether one dynasty would secure not only a lasting dominance of the HRE but also be able to centralise its power a lot more.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jul 13, 2018 14:58:45 GMT
TRS Good to see this again but a couple of small quibbles. a) I think you have your weights slightly off in the fighting in Scotland. For instance "30 kilograms of food" and later "Several pounds of food" are tiny amounts for an army, as opposed to a small squad of say a dozen troops. Not sure how capable the logistics were at the time but if it was say 2-3 wagons/mule-loads of food it would make more sense. b) If by Gibraltar you mean the OTL one its a peninsula not an island? Think that quote was said by the Ottoman emperor about Phillip II of Spain when he deported the remaining 'Muslims' from Spain and the Ottomans offered them refuge. Sounds like your going to have a predominantly Japanese, by culture, Taiwan/Ryukyu that is going either going to be a significant factor, at least in the short term in the region or possibly later a 5th home island of Japan. Ending the electoral nature of the HRE would be a source of a lot of opposition, both by the other major nobles and probably even more so by the papacy as it would make the emperor a lot more powerful and greatly reduce papal influence inside the empire. To a large degree that was what the 30 Years War was about OTL, whether one dynasty would secure not only a lasting dominance of the HRE but also be able to centralise its power a lot more.
Steve
Good catch on the errors, so I changed it to 50 pounds. However, with their supply routes possibly exposed to Scottish counter-attacks, 2-3 wagons of food could have easily fallen back into their hands. Yep, also good catch on Gibraltar as well. It was actually a reference to Bayezid II's quote on Ferdinand and Isabella's expulsion of the Jews from Spain following the OTL Alhambra Decree. Ryukyu at the very least, may end up becoming the potential fifth island of Japan, or if possible, they might remain independent. One of the key things that I will discuss more in future updates will be about the sudden transformation of the HRE from a decentralized federation to a centralized entity, and how that might also play a role in the Second Hundred Years' War. Within the HRE, you would have rebel duchies fighting Imperial authorities, Savonarolists fighting Catholics, reformed Christians fighting each other, as well as Catholics fighting other Catholics. This kind of bitter conflict will only benefit one nation above all else: France. With the HRE distracted by its own incoming civil war, the French would extend their borders up to the Rhine. Going by this angle, I might have already set up a possibility of a European version of the Imjin War, with Poland playing the role of Korea, the HRE (and later Germany) playing the role of Japan, Veyshnoria playing the role of the Jurchens and Muscovy playing the role of the Ming. (Expect an even bigger Time of Troubles coming down in Muscovy). |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Aug 3, 2018 5:41:26 GMT
Sorry for the whole delay once again, but seeing as I'm getting a lot confused as to where I need to take this timeline, I'll put it on hiatus until further notice. I'm at a loss primarily because I've been playing EUIV and I wanted to see which Western European nation would be a better bastion for the Savonarolists, and I've used EUIV as a good inspiration, in which case I may have to retcon a lot of things. England, France, and Denmark are the ones I'm quite thinking. Let me know, and I will respond.
However, one of the future updates ITTL will involve its own version of EUIV, which I will name "Terra Dominatus", or World Domination (forgive me if my Latin is off). I will base Terra Dominatus on the Europa Universalis series, only with a bit more flavor.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 3, 2018 5:44:57 GMT
Sorry for the whole delay once again, but seeing as I'm getting a lot confused as to where I need to take this timeline, I'll put it on hiatus until further notice. I'm at a loss primarily because I've been playing EUIV and I wanted to see which Western European nation would be a better bastion for the Savonarolists, and I've used EUIV as a good inspiration, in which case I may have to retcon a lot of things. England, France, and Denmark are the ones I'm quite thinking. Let me know, and I will respond. However, one of the future updates ITTL will involve its own version of EUIV, which I will name "Terra Dominatus", or World Domination (forgive me if my Latin is off). I will base Terra Dominatus on the Europa Universalis series, only with a bit more flavor. No problem TheRomanSlayer, also how do you like EUIV so far. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Aug 3, 2018 14:10:03 GMT
EUIV is decent, so far
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Post by lordroel on Aug 3, 2018 15:09:32 GMT
Do i need to lock this thread until you want it open again. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 3, 2018 16:44:13 GMT
Sorry for the whole delay once again, but seeing as I'm getting a lot confused as to where I need to take this timeline, I'll put it on hiatus until further notice. I'm at a loss primarily because I've been playing EUIV and I wanted to see which Western European nation would be a better bastion for the Savonarolists, and I've used EUIV as a good inspiration, in which case I may have to retcon a lot of things. England, France, and Denmark are the ones I'm quite thinking. Let me know, and I will respond. However, one of the future updates ITTL will involve its own version of EUIV, which I will name "Terra Dominatus", or World Domination (forgive me if my Latin is off). I will base Terra Dominatus on the Europa Universalis series, only with a bit more flavor.
Sorry to hear that but take your time. No good trying to force a story your unhappy with.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Aug 3, 2018 18:12:18 GMT
Do i need to lock this thread until you want it open again. Leve it open for now, and after three months of inactivity, lock it. |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 3, 2018 18:29:07 GMT
Do i need to lock this thread until you want it open again. Leve it open for now, and after three months of inactivity, lock it. Considers it done. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Sept 30, 2018 7:10:26 GMT
After much consideration, I wish to give this TL another revamp, because it is going in the direction that I did not intend, and writing a huge segment on the S100YW will be far too difficult, with the limited amount of research I may need. Thus far, here is how I plan on fixing this TL:
- No more S100YW. In its place will be a series of events that will lead to a completely different German unification. (Hint: it isn't Austria or Prussia that will play a role).
- A more thorough segment on Spain, France and Italy. Savonarola will still be there, but look for a bigger role for Naples and Sicily.
- A much better and slightly wanked Ottoman Empire. This one is necessary for a more eastward, Siberia/Pacific centric Russia.
- Balkanized British Isles is something that I wanted to play with. It would have gone like this: (England = Serbia, Scotland = Croatia, Ireland = Bosnia, Ulster = Hercegovina, Leinster = Republika Srpska, Wales = Montenegro, Cornwall = Kosovo, maybe Northumbria = Syrmia/Vojvodina)
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