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Post by futurist on Aug 3, 2016 6:30:18 GMT
What if the U.S.S. Maine is still stationed in the U.S. when it blows up (with butterflies, this is very likely doable) and thus the U.S. doesn't go to war with Spain in 1898?
Any thoughts on this?
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Post by lordroel on Aug 3, 2016 13:56:04 GMT
What if the U.S.S. Maine is still stationed in the U.S. when it blows up (with butterflies, this is very likely doable) and thus the U.S. doesn't go to war with Spain in 1898? Any thoughts on this? The Cuba revolution will still go one even if the United States does not get involved. |
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Post by futurist on Aug 3, 2016 19:25:02 GMT
What if the U.S.S. Maine is still stationed in the U.S. when it blows up (with butterflies, this is very likely doable) and thus the U.S. doesn't go to war with Spain in 1898? Any thoughts on this? The Cuba revolution will still go one even if the United States does not get involved. It would have less--indeed, perhaps much less--chances of success without U.S. help, though. |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 3, 2016 19:28:41 GMT
The Cuba revolution will still go one even if the United States does not get involved. It would have less--indeed, perhaps much less--chances of success without U.S. help, though. Yes but US newspapers will still publish stories wondering why the US allows the Spanish to slaughter Cubans. |
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Post by futurist on Aug 3, 2016 21:39:20 GMT
It would have less--indeed, perhaps much less--chances of success without U.S. help, though. Yes but US newspapers will still publish stories wondering why the US allows the Spanish to slaughter Cubans. Yes, but McKinley's response to this might be that what Spain does in its own colonies is none of the U.S.'s business. |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 4, 2016 3:02:06 GMT
Yes but US newspapers will still publish stories wondering why the US allows the Spanish to slaughter Cubans. Yes, but McKinley's response to this might be that what Spain does in its own colonies is none of the U.S.'s business. Well everything that happens next door is US business, they do not like it when countries slaughter people in places they own. |
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Post by futurist on Aug 5, 2016 0:19:26 GMT
Yes, but McKinley's response to this might be that what Spain does in its own colonies is none of the U.S.'s business. Well everything that happens next door is US business, they do not like it when countries slaughter people in places they own. The U.S. has no problem supporting brutal military dictatorships in Latin America during the Cold War in real life, though.  |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 5, 2016 8:25:58 GMT
Well everything that happens next door is US business, they do not like it when countries slaughter people in places they own. The U.S. has no problem supporting brutal military dictatorships in Latin America during the Cold War in real life, though. But its was not the Cold War then, unless the US will have one with Spain. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 5, 2016 20:30:11 GMT
The U.S. has no problem supporting brutal military dictatorships in Latin America during the Cold War in real life, though. But its was not the Cold War then, unless the US will have one with Spain. But they have also supported assorted nasty regimes long before the cold war. Don't forget the origins of the phase banana republic.  |
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Post by futurist on Aug 5, 2016 21:15:38 GMT
But its was not the Cold War then, unless the US will have one with Spain. But they have also supported assorted nasty regimes long before the cold war. Don't forget the origins of the phase banana republic. Yes; correct! |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 6, 2016 2:33:49 GMT
But its was not the Cold War then, unless the US will have one with Spain. But they have also supported assorted nasty regimes long before the cold war. Don't forget the origins of the phase banana republic. But with out a Spanish-American War the United States might follow isolationism a little bit longer. |
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Post by futurist on Aug 6, 2016 6:55:23 GMT
But they have also supported assorted nasty regimes long before the cold war. Don't forget the origins of the phase banana republic. But with out a Spanish-American War the United States might follow isolationism a little bit longer. Completely agreed. |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 6, 2016 9:29:05 GMT
But with out a Spanish-American War the United States might follow isolationism a little bit longer. Completely agreed. But in the end i see no change for Spain to keep Cuba and the Philippines if they continuity to fight their Independence war, it will drain Spain of man and money to keep them in its grasp. |
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