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Post by futurist on Jul 5, 2016 4:53:07 GMT
What if the U.S. would have helped the Iraqi Kurdish and Shiite rebels overthrow Saddam Hussein back in 1991?
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 5, 2016 13:55:11 GMT
Likely an insurgency that would take up most of the nineties. Depending on the support of Jordan and Saudi Arabia, it might shorten, as will support from Europe. Russia would be an interesting wild card - maybe they'll back Kurdish independence to be a bulwark against US influence.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 5, 2016 13:59:34 GMT
Likely an insurgency that would take up most of the nineties. Depending on the support of Jordan and Saudi Arabia, it might shorten, as will support from Europe. Russia would be an interesting wild card - maybe they'll back Kurdish independence to be a bulwark against US influence. Problem is Turkey, they would not like that the United States help the Kurds. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 5, 2016 14:00:17 GMT
Likely an insurgency that would take up most of the nineties. Depending on the support of Jordan and Saudi Arabia, it might shorten, as will support from Europe. Russia would be an interesting wild card - maybe they'll back Kurdish independence to be a bulwark against US influence. Problem is Turkey, they would not like that the United States help the Kurds. True - which would drive the Kurds into the Russian camp. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 5, 2016 14:01:35 GMT
Problem is Turkey, they would not like that the United States help the Kurds. True - which would drive the Kurds into the Russian camp. Russia in the 1990s had its own problems to deal with. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 5, 2016 14:02:38 GMT
True - which would drive the Kurds into the Russian camp. Russia in the 1990s had its own problems to deal with. True - but it was not all that happy with American intervention in Serbia, or so is my understanding. Perhaps more to the Chinese? They seem too internally preoccupied. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 5, 2016 14:03:22 GMT
Russia in the 1990s had its own problems to deal with. True - but it was not all that happy with American intervention in Serbia, or so is my understanding. Perhaps more to the Chinese? They seem too internally preoccupied. China in 1991 was not the tiger it is now. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 5, 2016 14:04:23 GMT
True - but it was not all that happy with American intervention in Serbia, or so is my understanding. Perhaps more to the Chinese? They seem too internally preoccupied. China in 1991 was not the tiger it is now. Exactly. So maybe the Kurds and the Turks may have to awkwardly coexist. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 5, 2016 14:51:24 GMT
China in 1991 was not the tiger it is now. Exactly. So maybe the Kurds and the Turks may have to awkwardly coexist. The hate each other, i doubt that will happen. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 6, 2016 0:44:10 GMT
Exactly. So maybe the Kurds and the Turks may have to awkwardly coexist. The hate each other, i doubt that will happen. It would be like Israel and Saudi Arabia. They detest each other but have some shared interests. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 6, 2016 2:40:49 GMT
Likely an insurgency that would take up most of the nineties. Depending on the support of Jordan and Saudi Arabia, it might shorten, as will support from Europe. Russia would be an interesting wild card - maybe they'll back Kurdish independence to be a bulwark against US influence. An insurgency by Iraqi Sunni Arabs? |
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Post by futurist on Jul 6, 2016 2:41:51 GMT
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Post by futurist on Jul 6, 2016 2:43:12 GMT
Also, for the record, I seriously doubt that the U.S. and the West will recognize Kurdish independence in the 1990s in this scenario. Indeed, maybe this will occur later, but it almost certainly wouldn't occur in the 1990s.
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 6, 2016 16:54:31 GMT
Perhaps not as the greatest threat, but my impression was that they still generally see Israel as illegitimate. |
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