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Post by futurist on Jul 2, 2016 7:37:45 GMT
What if the U.S. would have acquired Baja California back in 1848?
Any thoughts on this?
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Post by lordroel on Jul 2, 2016 15:10:58 GMT
What if the U.S. would have acquired Baja California back in 1848? Any thoughts on this? Would Baja California become a separate state ore integrated with California. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 2, 2016 20:09:34 GMT
What if the U.S. would have acquired Baja California back in 1848? Any thoughts on this? Would Baja California become a separate state ore integrated with California. Probably a territory, then a state later in the century. It would definitely have naval bases there. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 2, 2016 20:17:02 GMT
Would Baja California become a separate state ore integrated with California. Probably a territory, then a state later in the century. It would definitely have naval bases there. The state of Baja California would have the largest population of Spanish speaking Americans i think. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 2, 2016 20:18:30 GMT
Probably a territory, then a state later in the century. It would definitely have naval bases there. The state of Baja California would have the largest population of Spanish speaking Americans i think. That seems likely, but Anglos would be migrating there en masse. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 2, 2016 20:19:12 GMT
The state of Baja California would have the largest population of Spanish speaking Americans i think. That seems likely, but Anglos would be migrating there en masse. As they have in other territories formerly belonging to Mexico. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 2, 2016 20:22:04 GMT
That seems likely, but Anglos would be migrating there en masse. As they have in other territories formerly belonging to Mexico. Precisely. The southern part of the peninsula may become another Florida. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 2, 2016 20:22:40 GMT
As they have in other territories formerly belonging to Mexico. Precisely. The southern part of the peninsula may become another Florida. Full of old people driving golf carts. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 2, 2016 20:24:10 GMT
Precisely. The southern part of the peninsula may become another Florida. Full of old people driving golf carts. That seems likely. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 4, 2016 8:03:17 GMT
As they have in other territories formerly belonging to Mexico. Precisely. The southern part of the peninsula may become another Florida. Would it have become anywhere near as populous as Florida currently is in real life, though? |
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Post by futurist on Jul 4, 2016 8:03:42 GMT
Would Baja California become a separate state ore integrated with California. Probably a territory, then a state later in the century. It would definitely have naval bases there. Completely agreed with all of this.  |
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Post by futurist on Jul 4, 2016 8:04:44 GMT
The state of Baja California would have the largest population of Spanish speaking Americans i think. That seems likely, but Anglos would be migrating there en masse. Agreed. Indeed, Baja California should eventually become 80+% Non-Hispanic White in this scenario (just like California did in real life). |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 5, 2016 14:06:59 GMT
That seems likely, but Anglos would be migrating there en masse. Agreed. Indeed, Baja California should eventually become 80+% Non-Hispanic White in this scenario (just like California did in real life). That seems likely, but I'd think Hispanics would be higher since it's closer to Mexico. Maybe around 60% Anglo? Also I think it wouldn't be as populous as OTL Florida. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 6, 2016 2:21:28 GMT
Agreed. Indeed, Baja California should eventually become 80+% Non-Hispanic White in this scenario (just like California did in real life). That seems likely, but I'd think Hispanics would be higher since it's closer to Mexico. Maybe around 60% Anglo? Also I think it wouldn't be as populous as OTL Florida. In our TL, Baja California had a population of less than 43,000 people as late as 1895! : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1895_Mexico_CensusThus, I certainly think that 80+% Anglo (Non-Hispanic White) is much more realistic than 60% Anglo. Also, though, please note that I am talking about the early and mid-20th century here. Indeed, Baja California's demographics can certainly change in favor of Hispanics and Latinos later on. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 6, 2016 16:49:03 GMT
That seems likely, but I'd think Hispanics would be higher since it's closer to Mexico. Maybe around 60% Anglo? Also I think it wouldn't be as populous as OTL Florida. In our TL, Baja California had a population of less than 43,000 people as late as 1895! : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1895_Mexico_CensusThus, I certainly think that 80+% Anglo (Non-Hispanic White) is much more realistic than 60% White. Also, though, please note that I am talking about the early and mid-20th century here. Indeed, Baja California's demographics can certainly change in favor of Hispanics and Latinos later on. Sure. That makes sense, but I would expect quicker than OTL Florida. |
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