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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2016 13:23:56 GMT
(OOC: Sorry) IC: How bad a place do you think is South Africa, which in my opinion is arguably the last outpost of hardline communism in the world due to the economic reforms the other Third International powers are conducting? (OOC: no problem) It a bad place where the white led government with force not seen sins the Holy British Empire oppression of the Scottish people tries to keep the blacks in south Africa under control.
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Post by whiteshore on Jun 26, 2016 13:30:37 GMT
Yes, the crazy white supremacist-communist regime amazes me with how they manage to reconcile their communism with their white supremacism, I wouldn't be surprised if the author of "No Russian Constitution of 1881" (OOC: Basically OTL) based the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" off South Africa as the DPRK in his timeline uses a mixture of Korean supremacy, Stalinist Communism (that timeline's analogue to Mussolini was even worse than Mussolini, who is that timeline's founder of alt-Sorelianism), and fanatical nationalism and calls it the Juche ideology.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2016 13:34:20 GMT
Yes, the crazy white supremacist-communist regime amazes me with how they manage to reconcile their communism with their white supremacism, I wouldn't be surprised if the author of "No Russian Constitution of 1881" (OOC: Basically OTL) based the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" off South Africa as the DPRK in his timeline uses a mixture of Korean supremacy, Stalinist Communism (that timeline's analogue to Mussolini was even worse than Mussolini, who is that timeline's founder of alt-Sorelianism), and fanatical nationalism and calls it the Juche ideology. At least the South Africa has no father to son government as what is in the "No Russian Constitution of 1881" timeline where he has a People's Republic of Korea being led by three members of the same family.
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Post by whiteshore on Jun 26, 2016 13:41:04 GMT
Yes, and it appears that the Kim dynasty in that world gets worse with each Kim with the latest Kim executing people via 120 dogs and AA guns. Also, what do you think of the Nazi Germany in that world? Is it a bit too far as the Nazis killed the Jews in an industrial scale just because the ideology stated that they should be killed instead of, like the Scots, being killed for being "disloyal"?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2016 13:43:32 GMT
Yes, and it appears that the Kim dynasty in that world gets worse with each Kim with the latest Kim executing people via 120 dogs and AA guns. Also, what do you think of the Nazi Germany in that world? Is it a bit too far as the Nazis killed the Jews in an industrial scale just because the ideology stated that they should be killed instead of, like the Scots, being killed for being "disloyal"? Well the the Nazis of that world had the Jews the Holly British Empire had first the Scottish and later the Irish when they where occupied by them to terminated.
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Post by whiteshore on Jun 26, 2016 13:47:32 GMT
In addition, the Holy British Empire and the Third French Empire committed sick colonial atrocities (OOC: basically the Congo Free State playing out in the pre-1914 colonies of Britain and France) with attempts to exterminate Algerians to acquire living space for the French Nation being the most heinous and the closest to that timeline's Final Solution in industrialized scale. Also, what of the three Sorelian powers was the worst of the three?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2016 13:52:27 GMT
In addition, the Holy British Empire and the Third French Empire committed sick colonial atrocities (OOC: basically the Congo Free State playing out in the pre-1914 colonies of Britain and France) with attempts to exterminate Algerians to acquire living space for the French Nation being the most heinous and the closest to that timeline's Final Solution in industrialized scale. Also, what of the three Sorelian powers was the worst of the three? The Holly British Empire for they started it all and during the war they where they once who committed even more war crimes in a single year that the Third French Empire during the entire war.
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Post by whiteshore on Jun 26, 2016 13:55:45 GMT
And the Japanese Empire, while notorious for massacres in China didn't commit any acts of genocide (they were dicks towards the Koreans and tried to Japanize them, but they was no attempt to kill them all akin to what the British tried to do with Scotland and Ireland and the French tried to do in Algeria). So, what do you think was the worst warship of WW2, then?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2016 14:03:55 GMT
And the Japanese Empire, while notorious for massacres in China didn't commit any acts of genocide (they were dicks towards the Koreans and tried to Japanize them, but they was no attempt to kill them all akin to what the British tried to do with Scotland and Ireland and the French tried to do in Algeria). So, what do you think was the worst warship of WW2, then? Was there even such a thing as the worst warship, i know that the French build the worst submarine named the surcouf.
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Post by whiteshore on Jun 26, 2016 14:07:39 GMT
Yes, and I could argue that the British "Arthur Pendragon" Superbattleship was the worst warship of WW2 as even though it was far larger than either the Japanese Yamato-class, the American Montana class, or the Russian Motherland Class (OOC: OTL Sovietsky Soyuz Battleship) at 86,000 tons, it was sunk by a single torpedo which hit it's keel at it's weakest point, breaking it in half. So, what front of WW2 was the most brutal? Was it the Chinese front for the IJA carried out sick massacres like the ones in Harbin, Mukden, Tianjin, and Qingdao and the Chinese reacted via massacring collaborators?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2016 14:11:58 GMT
Yes, and I could argue that the British "Arthur Pendragon" Superbattleship was the worst warship of WW2 as even though it was far larger than either the Japanese Yamato-class, the American Montana class, or the Russian Motherland Class (OOC: OTL Sovietsky Soyuz Battleship) at 86,000 tons, it was sunk by a single torpedo which hit it's keel at it's weakest point, breaking it in half. So, what front of WW2 was the most brutal? Was it the Chinese front for the IJA carried out sick massacres like the ones in Harbin, Mukden, Tianjin, and Qingdao and the Chinese reacted via massacring collaborators? The Chinese front was the most deadly in terms of massive infantry versus infantry battle as both side did not operate many tanks.
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Post by whiteshore on Jun 26, 2016 14:14:33 GMT
What do you think of the British Arthur Pendragon superbattleship being such a catastrophe for the British as 1,605 of the 2,564 sailors on the "superbattleship" going down with their ship when a lucky torpedo bomber was able to break the ship in half in the Battle of the Norwegian Sea? Did it prove that the British Sorelianist Regime had little military sense?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2016 14:22:42 GMT
What do you think of the British Arthur Pendragon superbattleship being such a catastrophe for the British as 1,605 of the 2,564 sailors on the "superbattleship" going down with their ship when a lucky torpedo bomber was able to break the ship in half in the Battle of the Norwegian Sea? Did it prove that the British Sorelianist Regime had little military sense? No just poor construction i think.
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Post by whiteshore on Jun 27, 2016 5:37:32 GMT
Well, the two Yamato class Battleships, the four Montanas, and the the three Motherland-class Battleships along with the Berlin superbattleship (OOC: OTL H-39) all survived the war but were smaller than the Arthur Pendragon. Also, what do you think was more heinous? What Mosley and co did in Scotland and Ireland or what the French triumvirate did in Algeria?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 27, 2016 13:31:52 GMT
Well, the two Yamato class Battleships, the four Montanas, and the the three Motherland-class Battleships along with the Berlin superbattleship (OOC: OTL H-39) all survived the war but were smaller than the Arthur Pendragon. Also, what do you think was more heinous? What Mosley and co did in Scotland and Ireland or what the French triumvirate did in Algeria? You have forgotten the four Canada-class battleships the United Commonwealth build (Canada, India, Australia and New Zeeland).
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