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Post by futurist on Jun 20, 2016 5:43:12 GMT
What if the English attempt to establish a permanent settlement in the New World at Jamestown would have failed?
Would this have made England less willing to engage in overseas colonization afterwards?
Any thoughts on this?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 20, 2016 13:50:43 GMT
What if the English attempt to establish a permanent settlement in the New World at Jamestown would have failed? Would this have made England less willing to engage in overseas colonization afterwards? Any thoughts on this? I think there are enough people that will try to succeed in the New World, the story of Jamestown failing will just be a page on the book call colonizing the New World. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 22, 2016 23:55:05 GMT
What if the English attempt to establish a permanent settlement in the New World at Jamestown would have failed? Would this have made England less willing to engage in overseas colonization afterwards? Any thoughts on this? I think there are enough people that will try to succeed in the New World, the story of Jamestown failing will just be a page on the book call colonizing the New World. It's not just Jamestown, though. Indeed, Roanoke failed 20 years before Jamestown. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 3:46:28 GMT
I think there are enough people that will try to succeed in the New World, the story of Jamestown failing will just be a page on the book call colonizing the New World. It's not just Jamestown, though. Indeed, Roanoke failed 20 years before Jamestown. So if there are people who try we will see a settlement succeed. |
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Post by doug181 on Oct 31, 2016 20:03:20 GMT
The British would have came back again. They were not about to give Spain and France a free hand in the New World
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Post by lordroel on Nov 1, 2016 4:54:36 GMT
The British would have came back again. They were not about to give Spain and France a free hand in the New World A new name will also be chosen i guess, the British are not going to reuse a name of a failed settlement. |
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Post by doug181 on Nov 1, 2016 18:23:35 GMT
Charlestown
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Post by lordroel on Nov 1, 2016 19:10:18 GMT
That might work, but than we would not see a Charlestown in Boston being named as it did in OTL. |
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Post by stevep on Nov 1, 2016 21:47:02 GMT
That might work, but than we would not see a Charlestown in Boston being named as it did in OTL. Not necessarily. Plenty of room for towns with the same name, especially given their in different colonies a pretty long way apart and the colonies had relatively little contact with each other in the 1st century or so. Using the kings name would be one way of currying favour, or at least trying to. Steve |
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Post by lordroel on Nov 2, 2016 3:49:06 GMT
That might work, but than we would not see a Charlestown in Boston being named as it did in OTL. Not necessarily. Plenty of room for towns with the same name, especially given their in different colonies a pretty long way apart and the colonies had relatively little contact with each other in the 1st century or so. Using the kings name would be one way of currying favour, or at least trying to. Steve Well that might be true but failing a settlement with named after the king will most likely be the opposite. |
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Post by doug181 on Nov 14, 2016 23:28:50 GMT
How long it take Jamestown to fail
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Post by lordroel on Nov 15, 2016 4:13:35 GMT
How long it take Jamestown to fail It served as the capital of the Colony of Virginia for 83 years, from 1616 until 1699 when the town was renamed Williamsburg. |
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Post by puffyclouds on Feb 22, 2017 17:27:19 GMT
There would have still been British settlement in Newfoundland, New England, New Netherlands, New Sweden, and Nova Scotia. The British settlers would have moved into the rest of the Maritimes, towards the St. Lawrence, and the Appalachians.
English slavers would have attempted a Carolina colony between the Cape Fear River and the Altamaha River.
With no Roanoke, and no Jamestown, it is a guess who will eventually settle the Chesapeake area: English Quakers, Yankee Anglicans, or Carolinians.
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Post by lordroel on Feb 22, 2017 17:39:00 GMT
New Netherlands, New Sweden Only from 1674 on wards, as that was the date the English took over control of New Netherlands. |
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