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Post by futurist on Jun 20, 2016 5:25:57 GMT
What if French King Charles X would have gotten overthrown before he decided to invade Algeria?
Indeed, what would the post-1830 development of Algeria look like in this scenario?
Any thoughts on this?
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Post by futurist on Jun 20, 2016 6:22:28 GMT
Also, for the record, I doubt that French King Louis Philippe would invade Algeria in this scenario. After all, as far as I know, Louis Philippe was an anti-imperialist and only expanded the Algerian War in real life due to the fact that this war was too popular among the French people for France to stop this war and to withdraw from Algeria.
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Post by futurist on Jun 22, 2016 7:32:24 GMT
Indeed, how much longer will Algiers/Algeria remain independent in this scenario in comparison to real life?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 3:54:45 GMT
What if French King Charles X would have gotten overthrown before he decided to invade Algeria? Indeed, what would the post-1830 development of Algeria look like in this scenario? Any thoughts on this? Who would succeed him. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 5:51:45 GMT
What if French King Charles X would have gotten overthrown before he decided to invade Algeria? Indeed, what would the post-1830 development of Algeria look like in this scenario? Any thoughts on this? Who would succeed him. Louis Philippe--just like in real life. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 13:46:49 GMT
Louis Philippe--just like in real life. The problem is will France not invade when Napoleon III is in power or does he not come into power here. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 16:50:02 GMT
Louis Philippe--just like in real life. The problem is will France not invade when Napoleon III is in power or does he not come into power here. Yes, France might invade Algeria under Napoleon III. However, it's certainly not guaranteed. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 16:53:07 GMT
The problem is will France not invade when Napoleon III is in power or does he not come into power here. Yes, France might invade Algeria under Napoleon III. However, it's certainly not guaranteed. But if Napoleon III can make it work he can show the French people that he can rule a true great French Empire. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 18:10:03 GMT
Yes, France might invade Algeria under Napoleon III. However, it's certainly not guaranteed. But if Napoleon III can make it work he can show the French people that he can rule a true great French Empire. Algeria isn't the only invasion option for Napoleon III, though. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 23, 2016 18:11:34 GMT
But if Napoleon III can make it work he can show the French people that he can rule a true great French Empire. Algeria isn't the only invasion option for Napoleon III, though. But it could be on his list, if not than maybe other countries in the future will try to take over Algeria. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 6, 2016 6:23:12 GMT
Algeria isn't the only invasion option for Napoleon III, though. 1. But it could be on his list, 2. if not than maybe other countries in the future will try to take over Algeria. 1. Yes, it certainly could. 2. Exactly which countries, though? |
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Post by stevep on Jul 6, 2016 19:10:53 GMT
1. But it could be on his list, 2. if not than maybe other countries in the future will try to take over Algeria. 1. Yes, it certainly could. 2. Exactly which countries, though? I'm not sure any other country would have been that likely to. Spain wouldn't have had the resources and Italy might not have the military strength even after unification. Germany is unlikely to be interested in the region once its unified unless butterflies are significantly different and I doubt Britain would have real interest in the area. Not sure who else would have been practical. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 6, 2016 23:11:58 GMT
1. Yes, it certainly could. 2. Exactly which countries, though? I'm not sure any other country would have been that likely to. Spain wouldn't have had the resources and Italy might not have the military strength even after unification. Germany is unlikely to be interested in the region once its unified unless butterflies are significantly different and I doubt Britain would have real interest in the area. Not sure who else would have been practical. Couldn't an Algerian colony be a perfect centerpiece to German Kaiser Wilhelm II's desire to establish a "place in the sun" for Germany, though? |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 7, 2016 3:13:12 GMT
I'm not sure any other country would have been that likely to. Spain wouldn't have had the resources and Italy might not have the military strength even after unification. Germany is unlikely to be interested in the region once its unified unless butterflies are significantly different and I doubt Britain would have real interest in the area. Not sure who else would have been practical. Couldn't an Algerian colony be a perfect centerpiece to German Kaiser Wilhelm II's desire to establish a "place in the sun" for Germany, though? Maybe after the winning of the Franco-Prussian War maybe as before the Prussians where not into having colonies. |
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Post by stevep on Jul 7, 2016 16:15:24 GMT
I'm not sure any other country would have been that likely to. Spain wouldn't have had the resources and Italy might not have the military strength even after unification. Germany is unlikely to be interested in the region once its unified unless butterflies are significantly different and I doubt Britain would have real interest in the area. Not sure who else would have been practical. Couldn't an Algerian colony be a perfect centerpiece to German Kaiser Wilhelm II's desire to establish a "place in the sun" for Germany, though? That's a possibility but presuming that he still exists in this TL and so many other things hadn't changed either. It would definitely antagonise France [as a threat to their southern border], Britain [to Gibraltar and their trade through the Med] and probably Spain and Italy as well. If he had directed his OTL hostility towards East Asians towards Muslims instead it could be nasty for the inhabitants. |
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