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Post by futurist on Jun 20, 2016 4:55:13 GMT
What do you think that the future of the Eurasian Economic Union will look like?
Any thoughts on this?
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Post by futurist on Jun 20, 2016 4:56:10 GMT
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Post by lordroel on Jun 21, 2016 17:51:41 GMT
What do you think that the future of the Eurasian Economic Union will look like? Any thoughts on this? Looks to me Soviet Union 2.0 but with a new name. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 0:44:20 GMT
What do you think that the future of the Eurasian Economic Union will look like? Any thoughts on this? Looks to me Soviet Union 2.0 but with a new name. Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan both oppose political integration (as opposed to economic integration) with Russia, though.  |
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 23, 2016 13:01:12 GMT
Looks to me Soviet Union 2.0 but with a new name. Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan both oppose political integration (as opposed to economic integration) with Russia, though. If their current leaders pass on and new leaders are friendly to Russia more so than their current ones, future political integration is possible. Same with Belarus. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 23, 2016 16:52:26 GMT
Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan both oppose political integration (as opposed to economic integration) with Russia, though. If their current leaders pass on and new leaders are friendly to Russia more so than their current ones, future political integration is possible. Same with Belarus. Yes, but I still think that it's unlikely. After all, I doubt that many non-Russian politicians and national leaders actually want to play second fiddle to Russia. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 24, 2016 17:36:30 GMT
If their current leaders pass on and new leaders are friendly to Russia more so than their current ones, future political integration is possible. Same with Belarus. Yes, but I still think that it's unlikely. After all, I doubt that many non-Russian politicians and national leaders actually want to play second fiddle to Russia. As of now, you're probably right. I don't know about the future though. And I'm certain the Russians can pull some strings. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 3, 2016 2:43:01 GMT
Yes, but I still think that it's unlikely. After all, I doubt that many non-Russian politicians and national leaders actually want to play second fiddle to Russia. As of now, you're probably right. I don't know about the future though. And I'm certain the Russians can pull some strings. Yes, Russia can certainly pull some strings. However, will pulling all of these strings actually be enough? Very possibly not! After all, pulling all of these strings certainly wasn't enough in regards to Ukraine. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 3, 2016 19:20:31 GMT
As of now, you're probably right. I don't know about the future though. And I'm certain the Russians can pull some strings. Yes, Russia can certainly pull some strings. However, will pulling all of these strings actually be enough? Very possibly not! After all, pulling all of these strings certainly wasn't enough in regards to Ukraine. But the goal was not to annex all Ukraine. The goal was to annex Crimea and break Ukraine away from the West. In that regard, they succeeded. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 3, 2016 19:44:58 GMT
Yes, Russia can certainly pull some strings. However, will pulling all of these strings actually be enough? Very possibly not! After all, pulling all of these strings certainly wasn't enough in regards to Ukraine. But the goal was not to annex all Ukraine. The goal was to annex Crimea and break Ukraine away from the West. In that regard, they succeeded. Actually, I was talking about causing Ukraine to enter the Eurasian Economic Union--rather than to outright annex Ukraine--here. Also, though, how exactly did Russia succeed in breaking Ukraine away from the West? Completely serious question, for the record. |
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Post by eurowatch on Jul 3, 2016 19:56:39 GMT
But the goal was not to annex all Ukraine. The goal was to annex Crimea and break Ukraine away from the West. In that regard, they succeeded. Actually, I was talking about causing Ukraine to enter the Eurasian Economic Union--rather than to outright annex Ukraine--here. Also, though, how exactly did Russia succeed in breaking Ukraine away from the West? Completely serious question, for the record. They didn't, if anything they only drove Ukraine deeper into the Western camp. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 3, 2016 20:01:21 GMT
Actually, I was talking about causing Ukraine to enter the Eurasian Economic Union--rather than to outright annex Ukraine--here. Also, though, how exactly did Russia succeed in breaking Ukraine away from the West? Completely serious question, for the record. They didn't, if anything they only drove Ukraine deeper into the Western camp. Perhaps I was wrong on this - but it did shutter any attempt at Ukraine joining the EU for the time being. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 3, 2016 20:36:07 GMT
They didn't, if anything they only drove Ukraine deeper into the Western camp. Perhaps I was wrong on this - but it did shutter any attempt at Ukraine joining the EU for the time being. The thing is, though, that the E.U. never actually offered E.U. membership to Ukraine yet. Rather, the E.U.'s negotiations with Ukraine were over a deep and comprehensive free trade agreement. Indeed, even before the Maidan Revolution, it appears that a Ukrainian entry into the E.U. was decades away. After all, Ukraine certainly has a lot of work to do before it can actually join the E.U.! |
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