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Post by futurist on Jun 19, 2016 2:51:49 GMT
What if Russian Tsar Nicholas II would have died of typhus in 1900 (like he almost did in real life)?
How would his Nicholas's younger brother Michael have fared as the Russian Tsar?
Any thoughts on this?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 19, 2016 8:24:47 GMT
What if Russian Tsar Nicholas II would have died of typhus in 1900 (like he almost did in real life)? How would his Nicholas's younger brother Michael have fared as the Russian Tsar? Any thoughts on this? As long as Tsar Michael II (that he would be called) does not try to use force against the people and try to reform the Russian Empire it might work, if not he and his wife and only son will get shot instead of his older brother and his family. |
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Post by stevep on Jun 19, 2016 12:14:19 GMT
The general impression I get is that Michael was somewhat more intelligent that Nicholas so I suspect that reform might be practical. Not sure whether it might butterfly WWI or even prevent a Russian collapse as OTL but I think its markedly more likely that the dynasty survives.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 19, 2016 12:21:41 GMT
The general impression I get is that Michael was somewhat more intelligent that Nicholas so I suspect that reform might be practical. Not sure whether it might butterfly WWI or even prevent a Russian collapse as OTL but I think its markedly more likely that the dynasty survives. I think that even after 14 years of reform and the Russian Empire being stable, they still will go to war over Serbia, but maybe this time the Imperial Russian Army will be better than they where in OTL. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 20, 2016 6:06:43 GMT
The general impression I get is that Michael was somewhat more intelligent that Nicholas so I suspect that reform might be practical. Not sure whether it might butterfly WWI or even prevent a Russian collapse as OTL but I think its markedly more likely that the dynasty survives. The crucial questions here appears to be these: 1. Would Michael have been willing to (gradually) turn Russia into a British-style constitutional monarchy? 2. Would Michael have actually appointed competent generals and competent officials? 3. Would Michael have avoided putting charlatans such as Rasputin in positions of large power and/or influence? Any thoughts on all of this? |
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Post by futurist on Jun 20, 2016 6:07:14 GMT
The general impression I get is that Michael was somewhat more intelligent that Nicholas so I suspect that reform might be practical. Not sure whether it might butterfly WWI or even prevent a Russian collapse as OTL but I think its markedly more likely that the dynasty survives. I think that even after 14 years of reform and the Russian Empire being stable, they still will go to war over Serbia, but maybe this time the Imperial Russian Army will be better than they where in OTL. Unless the butterfly effect results in some changes, that is. |
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Post by stevep on Jun 21, 2016 16:39:03 GMT
The general impression I get is that Michael was somewhat more intelligent that Nicholas so I suspect that reform might be practical. Not sure whether it might butterfly WWI or even prevent a Russian collapse as OTL but I think its markedly more likely that the dynasty survives. The crucial questions here appears to be these: 1. Would Michael have been willing to (gradually) turn Russia into a British-style constitutional monarchy? 2. Would Michael have actually appointed competent generals and competent officials? 3. Would Michael have avoided putting charlatans such as Rasputin in positions of large power and/or influence? Any thoughts on all of this? Well without the czarivitch to consider I can't see Rasputin getting anywhere power. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 22, 2016 23:10:27 GMT
The crucial questions here appears to be these: 1. Would Michael have been willing to (gradually) turn Russia into a British-style constitutional monarchy? 2. Would Michael have actually appointed competent generals and competent officials? 3. Would Michael have avoided putting charlatans such as Rasputin in positions of large power and/or influence? Any thoughts on all of this? Well without the czarivitch to consider I can't see Rasputin getting anywhere power. Yeah, you're probably correct, Steve!  After all, why rely on charlatans if everything is already going well for both you and your family? |
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After all, why rely on charlatans if everything is already going well for both you and your family?