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Post by lordroel on Jun 21, 2016 16:55:24 GMT
Yemen was always a strange country, first separate countries then one country, it has never been a successes story. I've heard recent rumblings that some in the country want to split again. And it will be a Iran backed country and a Saudi backed country most likely, nice as we did not have enough war, tensions and chaos in there, lets escalate the Iran-Saudi cold war much more than it already is. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 21, 2016 16:56:28 GMT
I've heard recent rumblings that some in the country want to split again. And it will be a Iran backed country and a Saudi backed country most likely, nice as we did not have enough war, tensions and chaos in there, lets escalate the Iran-Saudi cold war much more than it already is. I want it to remain together, for the reasons you describe. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 2, 2016 22:13:27 GMT
And it will be a Iran backed country and a Saudi backed country most likely, nice as we did not have enough war, tensions and chaos in there, lets escalate the Iran-Saudi cold war much more than it already is. I want it to remain together, for the reasons you describe. You mean Iraq? |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 2, 2016 23:21:24 GMT
I want it to remain together, for the reasons you describe. You mean Iraq? I suppose; I don't remember what I was thinking in this conversation all that well. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 3, 2016 1:57:34 GMT
I suppose; I don't remember what I was thinking in this conversation all that well. Never mind; indeed, it looks like you were talking about Yemen here. Silly me! Indeed, I should have read this more carefully!  |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 3, 2016 8:12:04 GMT
I suppose; I don't remember what I was thinking in this conversation all that well. Never mind; indeed, it looks like you were talking about Yemen here. Silly me! Indeed, I should have read this more carefully! Maybe the the Arab spring begin in Iraq. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 3, 2016 19:23:07 GMT
Never mind; indeed, it looks like you were talking about Yemen here. Silly me! Indeed, I should have read this more carefully! Maybe the the Arab spring begin in Iraq. Perhaps, but it would look different than in OTL, and I'm afraid it would be crushed in short order. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 3, 2016 22:17:51 GMT
Maybe the the Arab spring begin in Iraq. Perhaps, but it would look different than in OTL, and I'm afraid it would be crushed in short order. You mean like in 1991? |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 4, 2016 0:39:18 GMT
Perhaps, but it would look different than in OTL, and I'm afraid it would be crushed in short order. You mean like in 1991? Worse, if it's a more comprehensive uprising. Saddam would not go down without a fight. At best, it would look like modern-day Syria. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 4, 2016 3:13:41 GMT
Worse, if it's a more comprehensive uprising. Saddam would not go down without a fight. At best, it would look like modern-day Syria. And we know how that is already a mess. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 4, 2016 5:11:48 GMT
Worse, if it's a more comprehensive uprising. Saddam would not go down without a fight. At best, it would look like modern-day Syria. And we know how that is already a mess. Would ISIS have still existed in Syria in this scenario? |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 4, 2016 14:18:16 GMT
And we know how that is already a mess. Would ISIS have still existed in Syria in this scenario? Could have or a different kind of organization could have been created. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 5, 2016 14:01:51 GMT
And we know how that is already a mess. Would ISIS have still existed in Syria in this scenario? I doubt it. ISIS rose out of Al-Qaeda in Iraq, which rose out of the chaos caused by the American invasion. You might see Al-Qaeda attacking these authoritarian Arab dictatorships, but they would not be as big as they are today. |
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Post by futurist on Jul 6, 2016 2:17:26 GMT
Would ISIS have still existed in Syria in this scenario? I doubt it. ISIS rose out of Al-Qaeda in Iraq, which rose out of the chaos caused by the American invasion. You might see Al-Qaeda attacking these authoritarian Arab dictatorships, but they would not be as big as they are today. So, who would fill the power vacuum in eastern Syria in ISIS's place during the Arab Spring in this scenario? |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 6, 2016 16:59:06 GMT
I doubt it. ISIS rose out of Al-Qaeda in Iraq, which rose out of the chaos caused by the American invasion. You might see Al-Qaeda attacking these authoritarian Arab dictatorships, but they would not be as big as they are today. So, who would fill the power vacuum in eastern Syria in ISIS's place during the Arab Spring in this scenario? Maybe an al-Qaeda derivative, maybe another group. I can't say. |
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