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Post by spanishspy on Jun 11, 2016 20:54:46 GMT
The atomic bomb one is particularly egregious. Yes that is one that belongs in the ASB section. And yet it's so commonly used as a potential PoD. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 11, 2016 20:58:22 GMT
Yes that is one that belongs in the ASB section. And yet it's so commonly used as a potential PoD. That why it is in this thread so it does not need its own thread. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 11, 2016 21:06:38 GMT
And yet it's so commonly used as a potential PoD. That why it is in this thread so it does not need its own thread. As I said, economical. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 12, 2016 0:25:29 GMT
That why it is in this thread so it does not need its own thread. As I said, economical. And because i like these threads, but back to the thread itself do you think what the author has written is true about the 10 scenarios or not. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 12, 2016 16:26:26 GMT
And because i like these threads, but back to the thread itself do you think what the author has written is true about the 10 scenarios or not. Sealion wouldn't work, the nuke one wouldn't work, and some sort of attack on France was almost inevitable. The ones about war between the Western Allies and the Soviet Union are somewhat plausible but would be appalling in terms of death toll, just like the one on the invasion of Japan. The one I see as most plausible is the one with the Germans taking Moscow. |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 12, 2016 16:28:31 GMT
And because i like these threads, but back to the thread itself do you think what the author has written is true about the 10 scenarios or not. Sealion wouldn't work, the nuke one wouldn't work, and some sort of attack on France was almost inevitable. The ones about war between the Western Allies and the Soviet Union are somewhat plausible but would be appalling in terms of death toll, just like the one on the invasion of Japan. The one I see as most plausible is the one with the Germans taking Moscow. But even if the Germans take Moscow (Napoleon even did that) they will not be able to hold it because the Soviet will kick them out after a while. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jun 12, 2016 16:30:26 GMT
Sealion wouldn't work, the nuke one wouldn't work, and some sort of attack on France was almost inevitable. The ones about war between the Western Allies and the Soviet Union are somewhat plausible but would be appalling in terms of death toll, just like the one on the invasion of Japan. The one I see as most plausible is the one with the Germans taking Moscow. But even if the Germans take Moscow (Napoleon even did that) they will not be able to hold it because the Soviet will kick them out after a while. True; the epic Russian winter would not relent. |
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Post by lordroel on Jan 7, 2017 22:10:33 GMT
But even if the Germans take Moscow (Napoleon even did that) they will not be able to hold it because the Soviet will kick them out after a while. True; the epic Russian winter would not relent. The epic Russian winter is the Russian best weapon, it help Russia twice: once against Napoleon and the second time against Hitler. |
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Post by stevep on Jan 7, 2017 23:46:11 GMT
True; the epic Russian winter would not relent. The epic Russian winter is the Russian best weapon, it help Russia twice: once against Napoleon and the second time against Hitler. It was also quite effective against the Swedes during the Great Northern War as well. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jan 8, 2017 4:47:39 GMT
The epic Russian winter is the Russian best weapon, it help Russia twice: once against Napoleon and the second time against Hitler. It was also quite effective against the Swedes during the Great Northern War as well. Just what I was going to post. People tend to forget about Charles XII in comparison to Napoleon and Hitler. |
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Post by lordroel on Jan 8, 2017 9:29:34 GMT
The epic Russian winter is the Russian best weapon, it help Russia twice: once against Napoleon and the second time against Hitler. It was also quite effective against the Swedes during the Great Northern War as well. So the Russian winter saved Russia already 3 times. |
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Post by stevep on Jan 8, 2017 11:54:48 GMT
It was also quite effective against the Swedes during the Great Northern War as well. So the Russian winter saved Russia already 3 times. Well I don't know how well they would have done without it. Definitely worse although both Napoleon and Hitler had stretched their logistics pretty much to the limit without the mud and then the cold and snow. Napoleon took Moscow but of course the Russians decided to continue fighting and its difficult to see the French seeking to advance to the Volga say although if they had survived the withdrawal from Moscow in 1812 an attack on St Petersburg could have been nasty for the Russians but not necessarily war losing. |
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Post by lordroel on Jan 8, 2017 13:01:43 GMT
So the Russian winter saved Russia already 3 times. Well I don't know how well they would have done without it. Definitely worse although both Napoleon and Hitler had stretched their logistics pretty much to the limit without the mud and then the cold and snow. Napoleon took Moscow but of course the Russians decided to continue fighting and its difficult to see the French seeking to advance to the Volga say although if they had survived the withdrawal from Moscow in 1812 an attack on St Petersburg could have been nasty for the Russians but not necessarily war losing. That fact that Russia is also big helps also, any enemy that invades Russia will have to deal with their supply lines getting longer which is never a good thing. |
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