Fascist USA

I forgot about Lindbergh. Like in The Plot Against America where he defeats FDR in 1940 on the slogan' Vote for Lindbergh or vote for war'. Lindberg could then form a non-agression compact with Naxi Germany. However I think he might face strong opposition, so maybe the 1930s were a better time for fascism as the people were more desperate and the new President could use their desperation and anger to become more and more authoritarian and fascist. Do you have any thoughts or ideas?

Idk there were a lot of isolationists and America First members but few actual fascists. I think 1932 would have been a good environment for a fascist, like in Germany at the time there was the Great Depression and the failure of the old system.

Do you think the Nazis would still be a major power today if they had allied with a fascist America?

Wasn't McWilliams just some fringe guy who never held public office? Murray was a Governor, indeed a founder of Oklahoma, and Lindbergh was a celebrity. 

Maybe there can be a 3-way Cold War between American fascism, German fascism(they're just pretending to be different, it's really just America vs Germany) and whichever power(s) are the strongest that aren't fascist.

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about Japan. They might agree on an alliance or there could be a Pacific War anyway, it was quite separate from the rest of WWII. I'm not sure though. There probably wouldn't be an oil embargo on Japan coming to think of it so they can continue wrecking China indefinitely. How would the Sino-Japanese War go if its just Japan vs China and everybody else ignores it?

Guys

Initial thoughts. I suspect the most likely route would be as Lordroel suggests, FDR killed and Garner not adopting a New Deal approach so the depression continues. As such the example of Nazi Germany could be quite attractive to many in the US.

One question is the type of policies that would be adopted? Would there be a huge military build-up or would it possibly be just limited to the navy? Who would be the internal common enemies? If Jews are targeted then the regime could get the support of Henry Ford and possibly other establishment figures. If they also pick on blacks then support won in the south and also those parts of the north which had seen substantial black immigration. Catholics and Latinos could cause more problems as that would alienate a sizeable element of the population, although not as great as our time. Also the sheer size of the country and relatively low population at the time would make the sort of control in Nazi Germany more difficult. Too many places for people to hide and much easier to escape to Canada especially.

A fascist US might be friendly to Germany or a bitter rival, depending on the policies followed and also the personalities involved. Suspect they would still be hostile to Japan, both because its a bitter rival in the Pacific, racial hostility in the US and also China is a substantial market and area of interest for the US. If the regime is expansionist or simply wants foreign policy successes it might even push Japan harder, especially if less concerned about the Nazis in Europe. In this case China might receive more support from the US but possibly less from Russia as a result.

If the US doesn't support China its even more dependent on British and Soviet aid. The former would be limited because of limited resources in Britain and also the threat imposed by Nazi Germany, made much worse with a fascist America to worry about as well. As such Chang could become even more of a Soviet satellite.

Britain is the other power greatly threatened by a fascist US. Even if it isn't expansionist or closely linked to Nazi Germany politically. As the traditional 'enemy' in American propaganda and with the potential threat to Canada. Even without those factors the US is likely to be even more protectionist and less willing to work with Britain economically.

There is of course the factor that the rise of fascism in the US could make it even more popular in other democracies. France might be especially vulnerable here but you could see similar elements more powerful in Britain and the dominions as well as the smaller democratic states.

Steve

  Possibly although with a POD in 32 or even worse 36 it would be difficult seeing a revival of the Anglo-Japanese alliance.  Especially since if there is tension between Japan and the US this would be potentially disastrous for Britain and the empire.  If anything, while it would be a desperate move, if the US regime looked hostile to Britain, Britain might look to a deal with Germany.  If the US isn't clearly hostile to Britain then even a fascist US is likely to seem a more likely ally than fascists states in either Japan or Germany.  [Although its doubtful that the US would be willing to support Britain in a shooting war with Germany].  At least the two powers are likely to have some interests in common, including opposing Japanese threats to China and it would be the best protection for Canada and for British trading interests in Latin America.

  I think you would need a much earlier POD for a continued Anglo-Japanese Alliance facing off against a fascist America.  Possibly a different and somewhat shorter WWI which leaves Britain stronger and America more isolated.  I had a TL with this scenario and with the US falling into a fascist type regime, although you had a radically different Europe as a result. 

  Steve