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Post by American hist on May 14, 2024 17:43:27 GMT
I have decided to make a history discussion about food; this can include food that no longer exists or isn't famous anymore. We dont have to have YouTube dominate this discussion; but it may be used. This thread isn't about food preferences, but you may discuss any historical food, including speculated prehistoric history. I don't want my previous discussion to be bogged down in food history, so a separate discussion is deserved. |
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Post by Max Sinister on May 14, 2024 23:55:12 GMT
Ah yes, the famous "Scho-Ka-Kola". If I'm not mistaken, this still exists in German supermarkets. Even if it's a watered-down version.
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Post by American hist on May 15, 2024 4:56:59 GMT
You have another thing to add to cuisine that doesn’t really exist anymore or has completely gone out of style: canned Beef. Nowadays, we can fridge or freeze beef rather than can it.
My uncle Bill, whose father was Greek, one day came to my grandmother's house. I can’t remember how uncle Bill is related to us by marriage, I suppose. He was eating Instant farm-raised food from Oklahoma. He said it was the best food he’d ever eaten, particularly the canned beef, which was his favorite!
At the Missouri State Penitentiary when it Was opened, a Correction officer who worked there in the 1970s And is now is 80 years old and still working at Bowling Green NECC Correctional Center said the food there was significantly better as it was farm raised.
As this discussion On food is about the history of food, we can just say that the food we currently have is longways from the food that was farm-raised.
Used to be at the prison where I worked, the food used to be similar to the military, so it tasted better,but now it isn't
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Post by simon darkshade on May 15, 2024 11:09:29 GMT
Tinned beef is still around, both in the USA and elsewhere. It is less prevalent in general practice for the reason you suggest and subsequent shifts in taste.
One can still see tinned corned beef in most supermarkets here, but those who buy it tend to be older people who grew up with it. There has been a shift to more canned products with extra ingredients, such as steak and onions.
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Post by American hist on May 19, 2024 0:25:32 GMT
To add more on the American pie story. Another reason why chicken pot pie is remembered is because it’s so unusual to American eyes. American reaction pie that is not sweet?! And the pies that are meat, besides American Potpies are the shepherds pie, which are not as famous. The original chicken pot pie from Lancaster was more of a soup with noodles Very Unusual sounding pie with no doubt show the rest of the country how iconic a chicken pot pie was. of the 46 American presidents only William J Harding’s favorite food was a chicken pot pie Which we can analyze specific things about this man . William J Harding originated from Ohio, which is home too many Amish people Who invented the American pot pie. Second William J Hardings family was from New England proud Puritan stock This would make sense that a traditional cuisine would be considered a favorite. Perhaps one of the reasons why chicken pot pie became is rembered and not beef and steak pies . Is Chicken and other bird meats have significantly less meat compared to a cow or pig. If they’re only gonna have leftovers from an entire cow for a meat pie, and they would likely will not be having That often. In the days before refrigeration and freezing, you have to be very careful about making sure the food didn’t spoil or rot. The steak and kidney pie does look good! I was talking to some British people at the farmers market I asked her if she misses Brittians s meat pies. She replied no because I still make them. There are also other ways to make food out of leftovers Of the previous dinner, such as soup. The Wendy’s chili Is made up from the non-fresh burger meat . www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/08/15/489991111/creamed-canned-and-frozen-how-the-great-depression-changed-u-s-dietsIn the 1930s America shifted Her growing urban population as its residence were coming back to the farms. It is one thing that definitely was eating a lot during the great depression was soup. Soup is food of the proletarian And some thing that is less expensive than other dishes. |
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Post by American hist on May 20, 2024 16:23:55 GMT
American bread
In the USA, it is now impossible to find a main bread bakery unless it is ethnic place . In the town close to me, they call it a bakery, but they sell sugary breakfast desserts such as doughnuts, turnovers, and sweet scones. The bakery in my town only sells desserts in the coffee shop there. Although in the town I lived in, we used to have a general store that sold baked goods, including homemade bread, as it was run by either Amish or Mennonites.
This factor is due to two reasons. The first is that America's strong sugar refining industry has flourished for a long time.
The second would be the effects of the industrialization of bread in the 1900s. While I won't be quoting the journalist Johny Harris as a historian, he is largely correct. However, other countries, including Europe, do have industrialized bread, which would hurt your local bread artisans.
In American grocery stores, even their bakeries are not the same as Asian bakers you may find. Now, in other countries with a prosperous bakery for hundreds or thousands of years, they have unsurprisingly surpassed the USA, such as the French. While I don't know, perhaps the 1920s nativist congressional policies would affect US cuisine as few immigrants were entering this country. When that point lifted certain immigration restrictions, most immigrants coming to the USA were not into brands such as Latin America and the continent of Asia, whose stable is rice.
In the colonial American period, food was often simple, particularly in the bread colonies (middle); this had to do with the Quaker religion against gluten but also enjoying the Simplicity of life, such as bread, butter, cheese, and cream. It also had to do with the immigrants coming to the, such as the Germans. The Germans had invented a surprising variety of bread which, to my surprise, when I looked up who had the best bread, it said Germany. In the age of industrialization bread onley increased in its consumption. Something that would eventually make since the reason why northern USA cooking decreased in part had to do with our country falling for industrialized bread, which, of course, is a subjective term on which food one likes.
However, to know anything about southern cooking and well American cooking history one must know about the southern USA unige cooking ,but I will explain more in my history timeline
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Post by American hist on May 20, 2024 17:02:59 GMT
Disclaimer
I’m not saying that food in the northern United States necessarily bad per say. I can say from experience as The state that I live in shares characteristics of both The Midwest and some characteristics of the southern USA. While the southern United States has a very unique culinary history that has books published about Their cuisine The Midwest is a more complicated case.
Midwest also has food that is not well defined . Keep in mind for a good long while some regions in America dish had a lot of bread and cheese as there diet This would have changed during the bread industrialization Unless they had a superb bread artisan culture such as France.
In the Midwest, we are famous for our loose meat sandwiches Which Is also for some odd reason popular in the middle Atlantic.
I remember that cuisine that I was referring To what sounded bland and unappealing. I have never had one. I really am not going to judge. However, if If a loose meat is hamburger meat season or not even a burger might as well just get a sloppy Joe at that point.
Another strange food In Ohio is called Cincinnati chili However, remember the phrase don’t knock it until you try it. However, Cincinnati chili is basically chili on top of spaghetti.
Cincinnati chili deep fried dish pizza and many other Midwest cuisine dishes are not really that old. The cheeseburger isn’t that old either but it has become insatiable American classic as it’s really all American food As the hotdogs are.
A very interesting sauce that I have not heard about Until I stumbled upon a Sauce was Chicago style barbecue. I looked into a little bit of history and it’s really interesting because barbecue is primarily from the south It’s one of those exceptions that defye the rule. As we are getting into food history, I would sometimes like to tease my father saying that Kansas City barbecue was better than North Carolina barbecue.
Back to the topic of complete history of food
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Post by American hist on May 22, 2024 22:59:13 GMT
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Post by American hist on May 23, 2024 5:36:24 GMT
www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2022/01/remembering-forgotten-foods/Here’s a good question for everyone what is one of the foods that were discontinued for the restaurant or or at the store? Taco Bell’s taken away just about everything I loved on their menu. Right now Cracker Barrel May possibly close its doors because they are alienating their base . Some foods deserve to be forgotten in history as however just because the new fad comes out doesn’t mean the majority of of the people from that time we’re going to eat it. Some dishes were good,but not nearly as good as other foods. Hydrolex are good,but Oreos would certainly win out because they are softer and with more cream.
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Post by Max Sinister on May 25, 2024 18:35:37 GMT
Max Sinister , why is the Scho-Ka-Kola more watered down than the WW2 ration? In the United States, Coke and Coca-Cola aren't the same, according to the museum curator at the local county history museum. However, I have noticed that Coca-Cola is very good at advertisement I do not like Coke Whether there was change or not from what I tasted. Cherry Coke does taste better in my opinion In WW2, "Panzerschokolade" contained Pervitin - essentially, amphetamines. Allowed the panzer crews to be awake for three days and three nights without sleep.
The stuff you can buy today only contains legal substances: Coffeine, cola nuts, and of course chocolate.
And I like Cherry Coke too.
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Post by American hist on May 28, 2024 1:15:00 GMT
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Post by American hist on May 29, 2024 2:55:19 GMT
This is awesome!
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Post by American hist on Jun 6, 2024 4:15:03 GMT
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Post by lordroel on Jun 6, 2024 5:40:57 GMT
Going to give you a advice, clean up the post you make Sotheby’s do not look like only links and YouTube clips.
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Post by American hist on Jun 19, 2024 23:21:19 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_the_Midwestern_United_StatesFrom my father’s perspective, A distinguished Fulbright historian concludes that the food from the Midwest is bland. He notes it’s not known for its spices, which he is correct. what is Midwest food ?from the daily Younder Midwest food I live in Missouri, so our cuisine is Midwestern combined with Southern. The locals are crazy about mid-rite sandwiches, which are loose-meat sandwiches. Perhaps Northern Europeans would not find them so bad, but I most certainly found them disgusting. The locals say it is an acquired taste. The loose meat sandwich originated in Iowa during the 1920s. southern cuisine has its knocking in the Midwest In my History timeline, I am very excited to talk about the southern culture that existed and still exists in the southern part of the Midwest and, to a lesser extent, in more central areas of the Midwest. Southern culture of the lower Midwest Southern cuisine is well defined, but it’s very weird how the Midwestern food culture History is not well defined. Despite the region, it most certainly industrialized the food wells in regionalism. It’s not well known that they’ve got such a glutinous style, perhaps more than the South. Business Insider the difference between southern and Midwest food Since this discussion is not about food preferences, People can or like all of this food; however, in my opinion, I would argue that grits make more sense than shredded wheat cereal that isn’t sweet oatmeal.
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