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Post by ukron on Apr 9, 2024 14:44:29 GMT
In the 60s/early 70s, the People's Republic of China sought to develop an interceptor capable of engaging an American SR-71, no less.
Chinese engineers had developed a BVR (Beyond Visual Range) missile for the occasion: the PL-4, inspired by some AIM-7s captured by the North Vietnamese.
They developed a project, sometimes called J10 (and yes!) or Project 3, but it never got beyond the scale model: the PRC being unable to produce an engine with supersonic capabilities (or even a missile, the PL4 being unable to exceed Mach 2).
Thanks to zhuquanzhong, WarplanePorn contributor (on Reddit) for this nice discovery.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 9, 2024 15:00:26 GMT
In the 60s/early 70s, the People's Republic of China sought to develop an interceptor capable of engaging an American SR-71, no less.
Chinese engineers had developed a BVR (Beyond Visual Range) missile for the occasion: the PL-4, inspired by some AIM-7s captured by the North Vietnamese.
They developed a project, sometimes called J10 (and yes!) or Project 3, but it never got beyond the scale model: the PRC being unable to produce an engine with supersonic capabilities (or even a missile, the PL4 being unable to exceed Mach 2).
Thanks to zhuquanzhong, WarplanePorn contributor (on Reddit) for this nice discovery.
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Post by 575 on Apr 9, 2024 15:43:41 GMT
Looks like a MiG-25 body with larger deltawing and changed fin's. The MiG-25 also fit the time for the project.
Though considering the Soviet difficulty in copying the Concorde Supercruise engines the Chinese would have been way worse off. The MiG-25 engine intake design looks a lot like Concorde.
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Post by gillan1220 on Apr 10, 2024 5:36:47 GMT
Maybe this would have been developed if there was no Sino-Soviet split. Prior to the split, the PRC received designs, parts, and technical support and expertise on how to domestically produce the Soviet jets on license.
I wonder if the 1980s rapprochement with the West would let China produce the MiG-25 since the PRC received avionics from Britain, France, and Italy.
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Post by ukron on Apr 11, 2024 12:27:50 GMT
High chance that it would have been a big "no no". But we can imagine a far more active military collaboration with West in 1980s with Jaguar MBT being completed and different NATO equippment sell to Bejing (such as UH-60 and Mirage 2000).
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Post by gillan1220 on Apr 11, 2024 15:46:29 GMT
High chance that it would have been a big "no no". But we can imagine a far more active military collaboration with West in 1980s with Jaguar MBT being completed and different NATO equippment sell to Bejing (such as UH-60 and Mirage 2000).
Yeah the Jaguar would have been made if Tiananmen didn't happen or if the Cold War dragged on longer. The Chinese MiG-25 would likely be sold to Chinese allies like Pakistan. The PLA would have received more Blackhawks and maybe even get to fly the Harrier. |
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Post by ukron on Apr 11, 2024 16:15:30 GMT
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