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Post by stevep on Oct 17, 2018 14:42:53 GMT
If the Ottoman line was extinguished and the empire destroyed then the main question would probably be whether another Turkish dynasty formed a similar empire, possibly not quite as extensive as OTL Ottoman one or whether other groups move into vacuum created. You might see the still fairly recently established Turkish presence in the Balkans destroyed and one or other Christian group grow dominate there. IF the Greeks you might even see a revival of their position in western Anatolia. In eastern Anatolia, unless say the Golden Horde - although Tamerlain bashed that about as well - or possibly an even more successful Mamluks push into that area, you might see a local Muslim group such as the Kurds, or a Christian one [probably Armenian or Georgian] establish a more powerful state there. Or possibly a heterogeneous mixture of groups, cultures and religions.
The Timurid Dynasty integrates the Ottoman Dynasty. Anatolia is now Timurid.
Ah I was assuming that after Tamalane's death the dynasty collapsed as OTL, or at least was restricted to its core territories in central Asia. Its really too big to be stable with the technology of the time while his brutality has probably also made it deeply disliked.
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Post by al-Khataei Abdulhaq on Oct 17, 2018 20:52:57 GMT
That's what I want.
Three or more branches of Timurid houses.
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Post by stevep on Oct 17, 2018 21:16:29 GMT
That's what I want. Three or more branches of Timurid houses.
That makes a difference but they could go in any number of ways. With one or more succeeding and lasting possibly for a couple of centuries or longer or all burning out very quickly, possibly with bitter infighting over who is the true Timurid dynasty. Its basically such an open field that just about anything could happen.
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Post by genyodectes on Oct 21, 2018 15:35:34 GMT
Austro-Prussian Union
1. Frederick II the Great of Prussia & Maria Theresa of Austria (1740-1787/1796 (Maria Theresa died in 1787 and Frederick died in 1796))
Greater German Union
1. Frederick Charles I (1787/1796-1806)
2. Augustus I (1806-1845)
3. Augustus Ferdinand I (1845-1862)
4. Frederica I (1862-1897)
5. Arnold I (1897-1913)
6. Augustus II )1913-1928)
7. Augustus III (1928-1940)
8. Ferdinand I (1940-1951)
9. Sophia I (1951-2003)
10. Ferdinand II (2003-2010)
11. Frederick III (2010-Present)
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Post by lordroel on Oct 21, 2018 15:38:23 GMT
That would be a force few countries want to mess with. |
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Post by genyodectes on Oct 21, 2018 15:38:59 GMT
That would be a force few countries want to mess with. Agreed |
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Post by genyodectes on Sept 7, 2019 14:17:53 GMT
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Post by lordroel on Sept 7, 2019 14:23:38 GMT
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Post by genyodectes on Sept 7, 2019 14:25:48 GMT
Thanks, I might make this into a TL eventually. It's an interesting premise of the HRE, England, and Iberia uniting into one Kingdom in the 13th century. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 7, 2019 14:28:10 GMT
Thanks, I might make this into a TL eventually. It's an interesting premise of the HRE, England, and Iberia uniting into one Kingdom in the 13th century. It will be a Roman Empire 2,0. |
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Post by genyodectes on Sept 7, 2019 14:35:07 GMT
Thanks, I might make this into a TL eventually. It's an interesting premise of the HRE, England, and Iberia uniting into one Kingdom in the 13th century. It will be a Roman Empire 2,0. Maybe, though it would have a bunch of problems. One thing is for certain though, France would become TTL's Germany, being surrounded on all sides by the Empire. The Empire would also be very powerful when it comes to colonization, considering it will have the vast economic resources of Iberia, North Italy, and the Netherlands and the naval expertise of England at their side. When the empire collapses, though, the question is which country gets which colony? |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 7, 2019 14:41:18 GMT
It will be a Roman Empire 2,0. Maybe, though it would have a bunch of problems. One thing is for certain though, France would become TTL's Germany, being surrounded on all sides by the Empire. The Empire would also be very powerful when it comes to colonization, considering it will have the vast economic resources of Iberia, North Italy, and the Netherlands and the naval expertise of England at their side. When the empire collapses, though, the question is which country gets which colony? So what city would become it’s capitol. |
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Post by genyodectes on Sept 7, 2019 14:47:01 GMT
Maybe, though it would have a bunch of problems. One thing is for certain though, France would become TTL's Germany, being surrounded on all sides by the Empire. The Empire would also be very powerful when it comes to colonization, considering it will have the vast economic resources of Iberia, North Italy, and the Netherlands and the naval expertise of England at their side. When the empire collapses, though, the question is which country gets which colony? So what city would become it’s capitol. I think it would be Aachen for the HRE bit, London for the England bit, and Madrid for the Iberian bit with Brussels being the official capital of the union. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 7, 2019 14:52:16 GMT
So what city would become it’s capitol. I think it would be Aachen for the HRE bit, London for the England bit, and Madrid for the Iberian bit with Brussels being the official capital of the union. A, that makes sense, I doubt I would see a Hohenzollern in London, but then again, OTL British Royal family until 1917 was named Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. |
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Post by genyodectes on Jan 19, 2020 16:41:25 GMT
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