stevep
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Post by stevep on Apr 10, 2024 23:03:45 GMT
"the US is short on manpower"? It sounds unbelievable, given how many men and resources they have. At the end of WW2, they had 24 million men mobilized! The US Navy was stronger than the IJN either, 10:7 or a bit worse since the Japanese cheated. However, the US Navy was divided about equally between Atlantic and Pacific, which gave the Japanese the thought: First defeat one half of it, then the other half later when it has arrived.
Possibly phased it wrongly but for much of 1942 the US was short of trained and equipped manpower as they were belatedly tooling up for a major war. Plus the issues of deploying them to SE Asia which is a hell of a distance whichever way you go about it. Note also that they only raised ~60 divisions IIRC because so many went into the other two services or related industry.
The USN suffered heavy losses at Pearl and also needed to consider the Atlantic theatre. Plus the Japanese expertise at carrier warfare and the logistical and supply issues meant that the USN, along with what the British and allies could spare in the region were very much on the defensive until the Guadalcanal campaign was largely completed.
On both those points there is little capacity for large scale US offensives into vital areas, such as SE Asia even without the logistics, until probably sometime in 43 at the earliest. The main naval drive across the central Pacific only really got going from late 43 and into full speed the following couple of years as the massive fleet expansion,. especially in carriers and escorts enabled attacks on the defended island chains.
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kasumigenx
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Post by kasumigenx on Apr 12, 2024 2:21:24 GMT
If it is the military and the political elite that surrendered first, the political system and government system of Japan will change, this compliments a Japan with no Atomic Bombing basically.
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Post by michelvan on Apr 12, 2024 7:21:30 GMT
Make japan lose the war sooner is realistic
But prolong Third Reich to August/September 1945 is impossible
with British and American bombing of reich in stone age
On the Other side superior numbers of Red Army invading the Reich
Already in end 1944 the Reich industry collapsed, it stop production in spring 1945
„Battle of the Bulge“ failed because Wehrmach and SS had not sufficient petrol to power the tanks to reach their targets.
options ?
on Red Army not much, Stalin used superior numbers of four Russian vs one German and had reserve to go six vs one ratio.
I read offen in AH forums, what if Nazis not build the V2 and focus on Massive production of Jet-Fighters to stop the Allies Bombing.
i have my doubt, if this senario would work under Göring on Drugs, with lack of pilots and also shortage of Petrol used for Aircraft Tanks trucks etc...
(the Soviets had not that problem since there tanks run on Diesel fuel)
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stevep
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Post by stevep on Apr 12, 2024 11:39:40 GMT
Make japan lose the war sooner is realistic But prolong Third Reich to August/September 1945 is impossible with British and American bombing of reich in stone age On the Other side superior numbers of Red Army invading the Reich Already in end 1944 the Reich industry collapsed, it stop production in spring 1945 „Battle of the Bulge“ failed because Wehrmach and SS had not sufficient petrol to power the tanks to reach their targets. options ? on Red Army not much, Stalin used superior numbers of four Russian vs one German and had reserve to go six vs one ratio. I read offen in AH forums, what if Nazis not build the V2 and focus on Massive production of Jet-Fighters to stop the Allies Bombing. i have my doubt, if this senario would work under Göring on Drugs, with lack of pilots and also shortage of Petrol used for Aircraft Tanks trucks etc... ( the Soviets had not that problem since there tanks run on Diesel fuel)
Depending on the PoD but you could definitely see Germany surviving until autumn 45 and the bomb comes - unless something delays that which is unlikely but not totally impossible. Their still likely going down by this time unless you have a very big and/or early POD and even then it would need a pretty much system collapse in either the USSR or UK for them not to lose.
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michelvan
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Post by michelvan on Apr 12, 2024 13:35:17 GMT
Depending on the PoD but you could definitely see Germany surviving until autumn 45 and the bomb comes what for scene Hitler enrage toward his Generals in His Bunker, while in 31,850 ft altitude over Berlin, Enola Gay drops little Man right on that Bunker... |
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