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Post by lordroel on Jan 19, 2016 18:51:44 GMT
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Post by eurowatch on Jan 19, 2016 20:54:06 GMT
Econimically? No. The EU's combined GDP in 2014 was over 18 trillion, all of Africa combined barely managed one. You Will need decades of Investment and Developments before they even get close.
Military? No. If we get to the point where the AU's army primary enemies Will stop being rebels inside their own countries and they start focusing on Overseas deployment. Until that point the countries Will simply lack the funding, necessity and R&D to develop their own high-tech weaponry.
Culturally? Maybe. But for Africa to take that posistion they Will first need to shake off the "global backwater filled With dictators" stereotype and that is not going to be easy.
In terms of Space-flight and research? They Will most likely house one of mankinds future Space elavators but beside that I am doubtful. Do they even have a Space agency?
I may have passed over some Things but I think I made my opinion on the matter Clear.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 20, 2016 4:55:29 GMT
In terms of Space-flight and research? They Will most likely house one of mankinds future Space elavators but beside that I am doubtful. Do they even have a Space agency? No they do not have a space agency, but the African Union does have plans for it, it will be called African Space Agency or short AfriSpace. |
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Post by stevep on Feb 12, 2016 12:04:05 GMT
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I'm cautious about saying never as very strange things would happen. However, presuming the EU continues to survive and thrives, it would take at a minimum a couple of centuries for an AU to gain comparative economic and technological power. As Eurowatch says there are far too many problems with internal division and even if rebels inside states are suppressed I think conflict between them would tend to be more likely than close co-operation. Plus, even if talking about sub-Saharan Africa rather than the continent as a whole, its going to have to defeat Islamic reactionism, which is likely to be a long and destructive task and could result in an alternative totalitarianism developing. If your considering the entire continent of Africa then you have greater resources in the north to add but also a deep cultural, racial and religious division to overcome.
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Post by Morty Vicar on Apr 6, 2016 14:31:43 GMT
If there were some resources that Africa has more than the rest of the World, conceivably African countries, and therefore the AU could grow much richer as a result. However with so many African nations being propped up by foreign Governments or banks etc it would be hard for them to profit much from it, as historically and currently all resources in Africa like diamonds seem to profit foreign agents and impact negatively on the locals. Perhaps this is where the AU come in, forcing the resources under their control, and using the profits to grow industry, technology, education, and tackling poverty and famine.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 6, 2016 14:35:05 GMT
If there were some resources that Africa has more than the rest of the World, conceivably African countries, and therefore the AU could grow much richer as a result. However with so many African nations being propped up by foreign Governments or banks etc it would be hard for them to profit much from it, as historically and currently all resources in Africa like diamonds seem to profit foreign agents and impact negatively on the locals. Perhaps this is where the AU come in, forcing the resources under their control, and using the profits to grow industry, technology, education, and tackling poverty and famine. Some african countries have problems with relgion bassed fighting and tribe fighting, if the AU would control all of Africa it would become that but much bigger in scale. |
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Post by Morty Vicar on Apr 6, 2016 14:41:54 GMT
If there were some resources that Africa has more than the rest of the World, conceivably African countries, and therefore the AU could grow much richer as a result. However with so many African nations being propped up by foreign Governments or banks etc it would be hard for them to profit much from it, as historically and currently all resources in Africa like diamonds seem to profit foreign agents and impact negatively on the locals. Perhaps this is where the AU come in, forcing the resources under their control, and using the profits to grow industry, technology, education, and tackling poverty and famine. Some african countries have problems with relgion bassed fighting and tribe fighting, if the AU would control all of Africa it would become that but much bigger in scale. Good point. Maybe there would be a split between the predominantly Islamic nations joining the Arab League, and the others joining the AU. |
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Post by lordroel on Apr 6, 2016 14:45:11 GMT
Some african countries have problems with relgion bassed fighting and tribe fighting, if the AU would control all of Africa it would become that but much bigger in scale. Good point. Maybe there would be a split between the predominantly Islamic nations joining the Arab League, and the others joining the AU. The Arab League would not want to have countries who are poor, they already have one black sheep in the League and its called Somalia. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 16, 2016 17:50:42 GMT
In a couple of centuries? Probably Yes, but only if Africa attracts a lot of foreign investment, consistent achieves extremely large economic growth for decades (if not longer), and becomes a place where things such as democracy and the rule of law are honored. Of course, it might also help Africa to redraw some of its borders (well, if this can be accomplished without warfare and whatnot, that is). After all, at least some of the ethnic tensions in Europe might have been resolved by the creation of relatively ethnically homogeneous countries--albeit after two World Wars. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 16, 2016 17:52:11 GMT
Some african countries have problems with relgion bassed fighting and tribe fighting, if the AU would control all of Africa it would become that but much bigger in scale. Good point. Maybe there would be a split between the predominantly Islamic nations joining the Arab League, and the others joining the AU. Is the Arab League actually willing to accept non-Arab countries, though? |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 16, 2016 17:53:53 GMT
In a couple of centuries? Probably Yes, but only if Africa attracts a lot of foreign investment, consistent achieves extremely large economic growth for decades (if not longer), and becomes a place where things such as democracy and the rule of law are honored. China and India are investing heavily in Africa, of course they do not care for human rights or who is in power as long as they can make money, do you think that will change and that they will try to make demands and say, no money unless you care for your people and are a democracy. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 16, 2016 17:59:59 GMT
In a couple of centuries? Probably Yes, but only if Africa attracts a lot of foreign investment, consistent achieves extremely large economic growth for decades (if not longer), and becomes a place where things such as democracy and the rule of law are honored. 1. China and India are investing heavily in Africa, 2. of course they do not care for human rights or who is in power as long as they can make money, 3. do you think that will change and that they will try to make demands and say, no money unless you care for your people and are a democracy. 1. Yes; correct! However, this investment money needs to actually be used properly; after all, if some corrupt African officials will take a lot of this money for themselves, then no one else is going to benefit from this investment. 2. Yes; correct! However, if the African Union wants to become an African version of the European Union, then it will certainly need to embrace the European Union's values.  3. No, of course not! |
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Post by lordroel on Jun 16, 2016 18:17:10 GMT
1. Yes; correct! However, this investment money needs to actually be used properly; after all, if some corrupt African officials will take a lot of this money for themselves, then no one else is going to benefit from this investment. And until that change most of the people in Africa will not trust their governments. 2. Yes; correct! However, if the African Union wants to become an African version of the European Union, then it will certainly need to embrace the European Union's values. ![:)]() Wich at this time is very far away it seems. |
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Post by futurist on Jun 20, 2016 5:32:10 GMT
1. Yes; correct! However, this investment money needs to actually be used properly; after all, if some corrupt African officials will take a lot of this money for themselves, then no one else is going to benefit from this investment. And until that change most of the people in Africa will not trust their governments. 2. Yes; correct! However, if the African Union wants to become an African version of the European Union, then it will certainly need to embrace the European Union's values. ![:)]() Wich at this time is very far away it seems. Completely agreed with all of this.  |
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