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Post by justiniano on Jul 10, 2022 2:31:26 GMT
like the rest of central America was. I think it has something to do with Spanish colonialism, but I could be wrong. Also curious as to whether the Americans had a good affect there.
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Post by miletus12 on Jul 23, 2022 4:10:21 GMT
The United Fruit Company owned Costa Rica.
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Post by justiniano on Jul 23, 2022 5:02:03 GMT
why did that stop america from victimizing costa rica? Why didn't the company own any of the other countries in central america?
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Post by miletus12 on Jul 23, 2022 14:32:11 GMT
why did that stop america from victimizing costa rica? Why didn't the company own any of the other countries in central america? It didn't. The UFC just bought and sold politicians and the USG did not have to send in the Marines, because the Costa Ricans, especially their politicians, learned how to game the American system way of doing things and created an internal society that mimicked similar American political corruption. Call it trickle down Tammany Hall. Money buys the votes and open public police enforces order, instead of bullets, criminal gangs, night disappearances and the secret police. The other central American republics went the Caudillo route and never developed two party congressional system democracy (Sarcasm.). For a Spanish version of this type of operation, look up turno pacifico. . |
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Post by justiniano on Jul 23, 2022 18:19:12 GMT
the USG did not have to send in the Marines what does USG mean in this context? |
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Post by miletus12 on Jul 23, 2022 22:55:01 GMT
United States government.
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Post by justiniano on Jul 25, 2022 17:51:09 GMT
miletus12, So would u say that the U.S. did more good than bad for Costa Rica?
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Post by miletus12 on Jul 25, 2022 18:05:13 GMT
miletus12, miletus12 , So would u say that the U.S. did more good than bad for Costa Rica? Ask Nicaragua's citizens. Their standard of living is in the toilet. Same for Cuba and Venezuela. Costa Rica? Not good, but better than America's enemies.
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Post by stevep on Jul 25, 2022 21:59:56 GMT
miletus12 , So would u say that the U.S. did more good than bad for Costa Rica?
More that it did less bad for Costa Rico than it did for other nations that's tried to govern themselves.
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Post by miletus12 on Jul 25, 2022 22:32:30 GMT
miletus12 , So would u say that the U.S. did more good than bad for Costa Rica?
More that it did less bad for Costa Rico than it did for other nations that's tried to govern themselves.
Compared to the record of Great Britian? The Americans did not do that badly. Got to keep things proportionate. Costa Rica or even Cuba never had the "Indian Experience". |
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Post by stevep on Jul 26, 2022 13:46:11 GMT
More that it did less bad for Costa Rico than it did for other nations that's tried to govern themselves.
Compared to the record of Great Britian? The Americans did not do that badly. Got to keep things proportionate. Costa Rica or even Cuba never had the "Indian Experience".
Which Indian experience? The North American 'Indians' who faced relentless attacks and massacres driving them from virtually all their lands and reducing their numbers massively? Or the 'British' Indians who saw their country unified with large scale economic and social development and when Britain left had a much larger population than ever before - albeit that internal infighting badly marred that position and corruption has since.
I'm not claiming everything was rosy because it wasn't. Many bad as well as good things were done during the Raj and the earlier period of EIC domination but there is still an Indian nation and people and if it can get its act together and isn't screwed over by its own leadership or external forces has a good potential.
I noticed in your previous post you highlighted three countries, Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela - presumably because those three have been the most clear opponents of obedience to Washington. Yes they have been screwed over by a combination of bad government and also by US hostility but a lot of other nations have suffered badly from US intervention to protect its perceived economic or political interests, from Mexico and Haiti down to Chile and Argentina.
The other point of course is that the British empire and its informal domination of other areas has gone. The US is still very much up to the old dirty tricks activities into recent decades if not still doing it.
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Post by miletus12 on Jul 26, 2022 13:56:25 GMT
Famine, pillage, wholesale looting, slavery, drug trafficking, human trafficking, mass murders, partition, unequal justice, etc in the Indian subcontinent. The British are not clean even by rather loose American standards applied against Native Americans of the 19th Century. They are worse. The British still are imperialists of a worse stripe than the Americans. BP recently comes distinctly to mind. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 26, 2022 14:05:22 GMT
The British still are imperialists of a worse stripe than the Americans. BP recently comes distinctly to mind. Okay, i understand you might have something against the British, if not, my apologize but this is going to far, so stop it. |
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