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Post by gillan1220 on Aug 26, 2023 16:32:52 GMT
Good Lord, now there are PMCs vying for power. I could see ATL Wagner in the form of the Terminal Division Group doing the same atrocities as OTL. While the Aswang Group would do the same in third-world battlefields. Most likely, and they’ll hire criminals for the job too. The ATL Aswang Group though, their only main concern is fighting the Chinese government, though outside the law. In a future update, I would actually publish the ATL inventory of the AFP that would be vastly different from its OTL counterpart, and I could definitely say that the differences would be significant, since in one of the previous updates, we had the Philippines obtain one of the Oliver Hazard Perry class vessels, but in this case we may or may not see the AFP receive any weapons from ex-Warsaw Pact nations. In this instance, I could see India and Vietnam receiving more ex-Soviet arms, until at least around 2010 when Japanese weapons would start replacing ex-Soviet ones. Irony how the PN here gets the OHP but in OTL, we never got the OHP or the Adelaide-class frigate which is also a variant of the OHP.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Aug 26, 2023 22:49:15 GMT
I think that the naval and air arm might become more important as the years go on, although I think a stronger set of mosquito fleets would be more appropriate for a poorer nation like the Philippines, as they can use the mosquito fleets to harrass the larger Chinese vessels. Patrol boats and frigates would therefore be more crucial than destroyers, but mini submarines would also be as important as well.
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Post by gillan1220 on Aug 27, 2023 7:10:33 GMT
I think that the naval and air arm might become more important as the years go on, although I think a stronger set of mosquito fleets would be more appropriate for a poorer nation like the Philippines, as they can use the mosquito fleets to harrass the larger Chinese vessels. Patrol boats and frigates would therefore be more crucial than destroyers, but mini submarines would also be as important as well. The Philippine Navy would probably utilized small missile boat swarm tactics to overwhelm a larger Chinese warship. That is what the Iranians plan to do if the U.S. Navy would blockade the Straits of Hormuz.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Aug 27, 2023 18:22:43 GMT
I think that the naval and air arm might become more important as the years go on, although I think a stronger set of mosquito fleets would be more appropriate for a poorer nation like the Philippines, as they can use the mosquito fleets to harrass the larger Chinese vessels. Patrol boats and frigates would therefore be more crucial than destroyers, but mini submarines would also be as important as well. The Philippine Navy would probably utilized small missile boat swarm tactics to overwhelm a larger Chinese warship. That is what the Iranians plan to do if the U.S. Navy would blockade the Straits of Hormuz. That is indeed true, and the missile boat swarm tactics would become an integral part of the West Philippine Sea piracy campaign as well. Though given that the arms embargo wouldn't be imposed on the Philippines until say, 1990 or 1991, it may be difficult for the Philippines to acquire the necessary missile boats needed to conduct such a thing. In this case, the Malvar-class corvettes would have to be employed for now, until they could get better ships, and even they wouldn't be able to maintain the cost of keeping such corvettes, hence the whole piracy mission. I would also have to stress the importance of selecting which missile boat class ships would be better for the Philippine Navy. So far, I have a few candidates: - Norrkoping-class missile boats from Sweden (alternatively, the Swedish government may be able to give license to the Philippines to build it, but the political fallout might be huge) - a licensed version of the Dogan-class fast attack craft from Turkey - Hayabusa-class missile boats from Japan (only possible in the 2010s, but would be built for export) - Asheville-class gunboats from the United States (possibly donated, with refurbishment costs to be borne by the Philippine government, though only possible after 1997) - Helsinki-class missile boats from Finland (see the note on Sweden regarding the possible political fallout) Consequently, I could see the Tadiar regime wanting to emphasize on the development of their own shipbuilding industry as a means of developing their own infant defense industry so they could be self-sufficient. Here are the possible scenarios regarding the ATL Philippine defense industries that would most likely happen ITTL: - As it was hinted in the original version, the manufacturing of firearms would happen in this reboot, especially if more crude gunmakers would be sponsored by the Tadiar regime as a means of incentivizing them to create their own kind of firearms for testing and competition. - Engineering equipment would have to be acquired from other nations by means of third party interventions and reverse engineered to make their own designs, especially combat support vehicles (Army and Marines), amphibious and support vessels (Navy), and ammunition. - The aircraft manufacturing industry here wouldn't exist, like IOTL. For the Philippine Air Force, Japan and possibly France might be suitable candidates to supply the Philippines with transport aircraft, though I could also see the likes of Poland and perhaps the Baltic States wanting to trade some of their Soviet-era aircraft to purchase the Rafale, Eurofighter or even the F-18s.
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Post by gillan1220 on Aug 28, 2023 3:40:55 GMT
The Philippine Navy would probably utilized small missile boat swarm tactics to overwhelm a larger Chinese warship. That is what the Iranians plan to do if the U.S. Navy would blockade the Straits of Hormuz. That is indeed true, and the missile boat swarm tactics would become an integral part of the West Philippine Sea piracy campaign as well. Though given that the arms embargo wouldn't be imposed on the Philippines until say, 1990 or 1991, it may be difficult for the Philippines to acquire the necessary missile boats needed to conduct such a thing. In this case, the Malvar-class corvettes would have to be employed for now, until they could get better ships, and even they wouldn't be able to maintain the cost of keeping such corvettes, hence the whole piracy mission. I would also have to stress the importance of selecting which missile boat class ships would be better for the Philippine Navy. So far, I have a few candidates: - Norrkoping-class missile boats from Sweden (alternatively, the Swedish government may be able to give license to the Philippines to build it, but the political fallout might be huge) - a licensed version of the Dogan-class fast attack craft from Turkey - Hayabusa-class missile boats from Japan (only possible in the 2010s, but would be built for export) - Asheville-class gunboats from the United States (possibly donated, with refurbishment costs to be borne by the Philippine government, though only possible after 1997) - Helsinki-class missile boats from Finland (see the note on Sweden regarding the possible political fallout) Consequently, I could see the Tadiar regime wanting to emphasize on the development of their own shipbuilding industry as a means of developing their own infant defense industry so they could be self-sufficient. Here are the possible scenarios regarding the ATL Philippine defense industries that would most likely happen ITTL: - As it was hinted in the original version, the manufacturing of firearms would happen in this reboot, especially if more crude gunmakers would be sponsored by the Tadiar regime as a means of incentivizing them to create their own kind of firearms for testing and competition. - Engineering equipment would have to be acquired from other nations by means of third party interventions and reverse engineered to make their own designs, especially combat support vehicles (Army and Marines), amphibious and support vessels (Navy), and ammunition. - The aircraft manufacturing industry here wouldn't exist, like IOTL. For the Philippine Air Force, Japan and possibly France might be suitable candidates to supply the Philippines with transport aircraft, though I could also see the likes of Poland and perhaps the Baltic States wanting to trade some of their Soviet-era aircraft to purchase the Rafale, Eurofighter or even the F-18s. Any country supplying weapons systems to a pariah junta will be sanctioned to hell and back by the U.S. and the UN.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Aug 28, 2023 12:43:45 GMT
True, but in the original version of this TL, the US itself started to supply weapons to Tadiar’s regime. It only expanded after the beginning of the Second Korean War.
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Post by gillan1220 on Aug 28, 2023 13:53:35 GMT
True, but in the original version of this TL, the US itself started to supply weapons to Tadiar’s regime. It only expanded after the beginning of the Second Korean War. Did the U.S. receive condemnation for that? This is even worse than Iran-Contra.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Aug 28, 2023 13:59:10 GMT
True, but in the original version of this TL, the US itself started to supply weapons to Tadiar’s regime. It only expanded after the beginning of the Second Korean War. Did the U.S. receive condemnation for that? This is even worse than Iran-Contra. I may have to cover that in a future TL, but let’s say China wasn’t pleased. I would suspect that the modernization would only begin after Tadiar’s death. The arms embargo might also be the motivation for the Philippines to develop and expand its own defense industry as well.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Aug 30, 2023 5:06:30 GMT
CHAPTER THIRTY THREE: ONE LAST MOVE
BALKASAR FALLS TO INDIAN FORCES AS SOVIET-ALIGNED AFGHAN FORCES REACH PESHAWAR, ISLAMABAD PREPARES FOR POSSIBLE INDIAN SIEGE Manila Times November 24, 1989
(Balkasar, PAKISTAN) - Indian military officials have announced the capture of Balkasar by their own forces, as the road to the Pakistani capital lay open. The fall of Balkasar to elements of the Indian 4th, 5th, 8th, and 9th Gorkha Rifles, as well as the Sikh and Rajput Regiments, the 20th SATA Regiment, the 9th Parachute Field Regiment, the 92nd and 93rd Field Regiments, and the 83rd and 84th Armored Regiments have resulted in over 4,000 casualties sustained by both sides, though the Indian forces have suffered more materiel losses due to guerrilla attacks launched by both the Pakistani Mujahideen and leftover remnants of the Khalistani separatist movements. However, the Pakistani Army have suffered more personnel losses due to disease and shortages of medical supplies, along with additional materiel losses. With the capture of Balkasar, the Indian military now has a secure supply hub in which they can use it to fortify their positions, as well as securing the rear of the territories that India controls inside eastern Pakistan. Moreover, the Indian military leadership has also announced that reinforcements are arriving to the front lines within a few days, citing the delays in the arrival of military equipment and ammunition coming from the Soviet Union. To make things much easier, the Soviet government has assigned its Afghan puppet government to take charge of delivering much needed materiel by air, with Antonov An-12s operated by DRA Air Force pilots conducting the dangerous task of aerial delivery of supplies to the Indian military.
"We're growing worried that our calls for a ceasefire have fallen on deaf ears, with Indian forces getting closer to Islamabad. Thousands of civilians have already evacuated from the Pakistani capital, with much of the entire government having to relocate their entire cabinet to Sukkur," announces US Secretary of State Warren Christopher, during a press conference in Washington, DC. "Furthermore, we've received credible reports that the Indian military is preparing for a diversionary attack on southern Pakistan, with the port of Karachi as its primary target. If Karachi falls, then the Pakistani war effort can potentially collapse, and the Soviet Union will benefit enormously from any potential Indian military success in the Balochistan region."
Karachi has been used as a major port in which the American government is sending much needed arms, ammunition and foreign volunteers to the Afghan Mujahideen that's fighting the Soviet Army and its puppet Afghan forces that are within Afghanistan. The unexpected Indian incursion into the Pakistani portion of the Punjab has diverted those aid towards the Pakistani government's defense needs in order to help defend its territory from Indian invasion. Additionally, while the Indian forces have managed to take control of Balkasar, the puppet Afghan forces have managed to reach the city of Peshawar, where a fiercely determined Mujahideen force is digging in for a potential urban conflict. Unlike the Mujahideen, the DRA military has been badly hit by loss in morale as a result of a successful psychological warfare employed by the Mujahideen that targets both the non-commissioned officers and regular soldiers. However, the DRA Air Force has responded by carrying out airstrikes against Mujahideen targets, resulting in numerous casualties sustained by the enemy, but not before suffering casualties of their own. Moreover, Soviet Air Force bomber planes have also launched airstrikes at the Afghan side of the border they shared with Pakistan, to a greater degree.
"We're afraid of being taken prisoner by the Mujahideen. I knew three friends who were tortured to death by these fiends, not just because of their political allegiance, but because they were one of the few secular Hazaras that were fighting for an Afghanistan that is free from ethnic and religious bigotry," says DRA Army Sergeant Major Ghalib Payenda, when asked by a Soviet TASS reporter after his unit retreated from the Afghan-Pakistani border. "However, there were several DRA soldiers that had Mujahideen sympathies and they were Pashtun. Those defectors were responsible for bringing my friends to be tortured by the Muj."
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Excerpts from "Terror Under the Sword: Islamic Fundamentalism Beyond the Cold War" by: Matilda Caldwell Bond University Publishing Press, released on June 22, 2021
Chapter Three: The Debacle of Peshawar
The Democratic Republic of Afghanistan's decision to launch a pre-emptive incursions into the tribal borderlands that straddled the borders between Afghanistan and Pakistan had turned out to be a major political and military blunder on their part, as the Mujahideen had now found a justification to expand their activities beyond simply liberating Afghanistan from communist rule. Although the Soviet Union was not directly involved in the DRA's invasion of western Pakistan, while at the same time that country was in a death struggle against the invading Indian armies from the east, it benefited enormously from the conflict in faraway Punjab to escalate their attacks on the Mujahideen strongholds to the point where they were brazen in their brutality against the Mujahideen fighters. Yet, Peshawar was not something that would normally be associated with military failure, until the DRA's advance into Peshawar by December of 1989. On December 4th, the DRA forces had began the siege of Peshawar as their colleagues in the DRA Air Force had started to launch additional airstrikes that proved to be ineffective. However, the Soviet Air Force could not help out with the advance into Pakistan, lest they be viewed as a military aggressor by the international community. Diplomacy between the two superpowers had reached a new low, in light of former President Michael Dukakis's untimely death by a plane crash over Spain. It may have been coincidential that President Dukakis's death had occurred at the same time as the beginning of the Siege of Peshawar, because his successor in Jesse Jackson had refused to negotiate with the Soviets on arms reduction treaties until the Soviet Army withdrew from Afghanistan. In any case, the growing division within the communist bloc had exploded when three days after the Siege of Peshawar had begun, the notorious East German mutiny had broken out.
Although the Siege of Peshawar was just as brutal as the sieges that took place in Balkasar and Sialkot, the major difference was that Bakasar and Sialkot was besieged by a determined and vengeful Indian military. In stark contrast, the DRA Army that was sent to besiege Peshawar had suffered from degraded morale and ethnic tensions within the army, as the majority Pashtun soldiers of the DRA Army had unmasked their own sympathies for the Mujahideen and wanted to stop the fighting. On the other hand, the Tajik, Uzbek, Turkmen, Hazaras, as well as a few progressive minded Pashtun soldiers within the DRA Army had often complained about the decrepit nature of their military leadership, despite possessing the latest models of Soviet weaponry. Political infighting within the Afghan communist government had become a source of propaganda boon for the Mujahideen, as both Abdullah Yusuf Azzam and Jallaludin Haqqani were able to present themselves and the entire Mujahideen force as the only group that is capable of both liberating Afghanistan from the godless communists and putting an end to the political infighting that has plagued the DRA government. What made Peshawar even more tragic was that the invading force that had attacked the city had lost almost two thirds of the troops they sent to capture it, and in the end, they not only failed to capture Peshawar, but it became a turning point in the Soviet War in Afghanistan, as the Mujahideen was able to launch a fresh offensive to liberate the areas that were briefly occupied by the DRA Army. However, a Mujahideen invasion of southern Afghanistan by December 25th had placed the Soviets at a bad timing, because of the East German mutiny, as well as the withdrawal of Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary from the Warsaw Pact, with Romania following suit a day later, following a military coup launched by Romania's version of the Philippine Three Stooges: Victor Stanculescu, Nicolae Militaru, and Mihai Chitac. The collapse of the Eastern European communist regimes, along with a similar coup launched in Bulgaria on New Year's Eve of 1989, had greatly undermined Soviet credibility, as the Lukyanov regime had feared that the collapse of the USSR would be next on the line. It was for this reason that Lukyanov would invite Deng Xiaoping and a number of Chinese government officials to Moscow for the 1990 Sino-Soviet Summit that was to take place in the city of Zabaikalsk instead of Moscow. Both the Soviet Union and China would take steps to improve on their diplomatic ties, which had already been mended the previous year. In addition, both nations would also take a pledge to fight the growing threat of Islamic fundamentalism that threatens to engulf Afghanistan, though this would later be replaced with securing their own borders with restive Muslim minorities.
The Peshawar Syndrome emerged as a kind of psychological trauma that affected the entirety of the DRA, and the news of their shocking defeat at the hands of the Mujahideen had triggered a large scale uprising against the DRA government. Civilians that suffered from both Soviet and DRA repression had eagerly joined the Mujahideen in the war against the DRA government. Although both the Sunni and Shia Mujahideen had cooperated with each other in fighting and defeating the DRA government, once it became clear that the DRA government would fall, both factions would turn on each other in a frenzied state of religious fanaticism and sectarian conflict. The Mujahideen was also becoming a lot stronger as it was being strengthened by defected former DRA soldiers who switched sides and were now fighting both the remaining loyalist DRA forces and the Red Army units that fought alongside them. However, the January Offensive launched by the Mujahideen would eventually be grounded to a halt when a 6,000 strong Mujahideen force would be stopped at the gates of Jalallabad on January 20th, 1990. Though the January Offensive had shocked both the DRA and the USSR with the shocking brutality of the advance, the costly defense of the city had prompted the Soviet government to begin withdrawing much of its forces, but leaving behind some of the equipment that they didn't need anymore, but would be useful to the DRA. The withdrawal of the Soviet forces on February 7th, 1990, would mark the beginning of the Afghan Civil War, when the DRA government would find itself facing not only an expanded Mujahideen advance, but would also be backed by a vengeful Pakistani Army that was still fighting the Indian Army when the latter had finally reached the outskirts of Islamabad.
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"The last stages of the 1986-90 Cross-Punjab Conflict of the Indo-Pakistani War had been one of the bloodiest events in the conflict between Pakistan and India, surpassing the 1971 conflict that resulted in the independence of Bangladesh. Although Indian forces were now within striking range of Islamabad, much of the Indian occupation of parts of Pakistan had been contested by both the Mujahideen forces that were diverted from Afghanistan and the leftover Khalistani separatist forces that continued to fight the Indian occupation forces. Airstrikes had taken place on both sides of the border, with New Delhi being struck by a fighter plane twice. An amphibious attack on the port of Karachi had taken place on December 29th, 1989, after several weeks of bombardment by both air and sea. On December 30th, approximately 30,000 Indian soldiers had landed on Goth Haji Salar and Bundle Island, with the sole intention of blockading the port from land and sea. Much of the Pakistani Army was stuck fighting the Indian forces close to Islamabad, so the defense of Karachi was left to the Pakistani Mujahideen forces. By January 2nd, an additional 23,000 strong Indian force had launched an invasion of Pakistan's Sindh province, in an attempt to bolster the planned attack on Karachi. Although radical elements of the Indian government had also called for the annexation of Sindh, along with supporting the independence of Balochistan, ultimately Indian Prime Minister Vishnawath Prathap Singh had rejected that plan, insisting on the annexation of the entirety of Jammu and Kashmir, as well as parts of the Punjab with large Sikh populations as a means of disrupting the Khalistani separatist network that threatened to destabilize much of India. V.P. Singh had recently won the 1989 Indian election, mainly because of Rajiv Gandhi's decision to not seek re-election as he wanted to end his political career with the Indian victory in the Punjab conflict. On January 9th, the town of Umarkot had fallen to Indian forces after a twelve hour battle that took place inside. Unfortunately, the Pakistani Army could not afford to spare any more troops to defend the province of Sindh, as much of what was left of the ground forces, accompanied by the Pakistani Mujahideen fighters, was needed to defend the city of Islamabad. Unable to help defend much of what's left of Sindh province after another rapid Indian advance into such cities like Mirpur Khas and Sanghar, the Pakistani defenders had no choice but to surrender to the advancing Indian forces. Fortunately for the Pakistani forces, the attempts by the DRA Army to take Peshawar had not only ended in disaster, but it reinvigorated the Mujahideen forces to the point where desertions from the DRA Army had become common, although Pashtun soldiers within the DRA Army normally defected to the Mujahideen. Hazara and other non-Pashtun soldiers performed little better on the battlefield, although the Shia Mujahideen faction called the Sazman-i Nasr had succeeded in attracting deserted and defected Hazara soldiers of the DRA Army to its group, along with other Shia Muslim soldiers serving the Afghan communist government. The Mujahideen offensive was launched on January 11th, amidst the gradual withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan, but kept much of its aircraft in combat operations as they were sorely needed to blunt a Mujahideen offensive. From the tribal border areas of western Pakistan where the Pashtun minority resided, the Mujahideen was able to invade southern Afghanistan, taking the DRA Army by surprise. Operating from both Quetta and Peshawar, the Mujahideen was able to inflict significant defeats on the demoralized DRA Army, but even in their worst hour, the DRA soldiers were able to retreat in good order. To slow down the Mujahideen's advance throughout southern Afghanistan, orders were issued to build a network of fortifications along the highway connecting Kandahar and Kabul, with another network of trenches and fortifications along the highways guarding the roads to Jalalabad. To buy additional time for the completion of the fortifications, both the DRA Air Force and the Soviet Air Force would employ more strategic and tactical bombers to strafe and bomb Mujahideen positions, as well as employing SCUD missiles that destroyed much of their front line bases in the region." From the documentary 'The Great Game Revived: Eurasia in America's Crosshairs', released by NHK Documentary on June 18, 2018.
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Portions from the Interview with Retired Former Pakistani Army General Muhammad Aziz Khan TRT, released on February 21, 2019
Discussing the Final Stages of the 1986-89 Indo-Pakistani War
Interviewer: During your three year war against India, you've gained a reputation as a resourceful man whose command of the 12th Battalion, formerly known as the 28th Punjabis, had performed admirably during India's invasion of Pakistan's portion of Punjab Province. The main reason for the sluggish advance of the Indian forces was primarily because the Indian Army was also engaged in protracted guerrilla warfare with both the Pakistani Mujahideen, which consisted of foreign volunteers from the Islamic world that was originally meant to deploy in Afghanistan before they were diverted to Pakistan, and what was then the Khalistani separatist movement that fought the Indian forces. However, between 1987 and 1989, while the Mujahideen was engaged in two separate fronts against the Indians in the east and the Soviets in the north and west, much of Pakistan's infrastructure had been bombed relentlessly. Do you think that your army had performed well in the final days of your war against India?
Khan: (sighs) To be honest, our army did perform rather well, but given that we were running out of weapons to use, and much of the newer weapons that we did eventually acquire, the Americans were furious with us for getting them when they were meant to be used by the Mujahideen. What was worse was that the Soviet Union was openly sending military aid to India as a means of bleeding us dry. The Soviets were enacting their retaliatory punishment against our nation for bleeding them dry in Afghanistan, and the Indian Army was used as its cudgel. At the same time though, the ISI had realized their folly of using Sikh separatists to trigger a collapse of India, because the trigger for the conflict on the two sides of the same Punjab region had been the death of a Khalistani paramilitary member at the hands of an Indian Army Sikh Regiment soldier that didn't hesitate to shoot intruders that were raiding the Indian border.
Interviewer: What did you think of the Soviet-backed Afghan communist government's decision to attack Peshawar?
Khan: While the plans to attack Peshawar was good in theory, carrying out had been a disaster for the Afghan communists, but a relief for us. It was because of their failure to capture Peshawar that we ended up joining the Mujahideen in launching our own invasion of Afghanistan to help defeat the DRA Army, but Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's stunning victory over Benazir Bhutto had been a factor in the push for the new offensive against the DRA Army that occupied bits of our territory. Even with his fanatical anti-communist stance, Prime Minister Sharif had issued strict orders for the Pakistani Army to not engage Soviet forces that are still in the area, as to avoid dragging all of South Asia into a Third World War.
Interviewer: When your battalion was redeployed to fight the DRA Army in Afghanistan, was it similar to how you've fought the Indian Army?
Khan: Well, it was rather mixed. On one hand, you had the DRA Army soldiers that lost their morale because of the divisions within the communist bloc. They were the least ideologically committed, and most of them only joined for food and job security. Once you had the Mujahideen leaders offer amnesty to the DRA soldiers that switched sides or surrendered, it proved to be a morale booster for Abdullah Yusuf Azzam, whose command of the Mujahideen after Osama Bin Laden's death had been exemplary. However, on the other hand, you had the DRA Army soldiers who were not really religious and a bit too progressive for their own good. They were the most fanatically devoted soldiers that I've seen. There's also the Sazman-i Nasr, which was the Shia equivalent to the Sunni faction of the Mujahideen, and they succeeded in bringing in defecting Hazara soldiers from the DRA Army as well. By the time the combined forces of the Mujahideen and our army had reached Jalalabad, the DRA Army was down to just 15,000 soldiers. However, Soviet forces were also being lowered down to just 200,000 troops, as most of them were being withdrawn for a possible conflict within the communist bloc.
Interviewer: But wasn't the move into Afghanistan quite risky, given that the Indian Army was literally a few miles away from Islamabad? Prime Minister Sharif would have been more mindful of Islamabad's defenses, though by the time they've reached the capital, the seat of the government had been moved to Sukkur.
Khan: We did build defenses around Islamabad and even recruited the capital city's population for civil defense operations as well. However, once the Indian Army had made several rapid advances throughout the province of Sindh, we were at a loss at what to do next. On one hand, the fall of Mirpur Khas on February 17 of 1990 had left Hyderabad vulnerable to the Indian forces. If that city fell, then they would be able to block off the roads leading to Karachi. Keep in mind that Karachi was also being assaulted from the sea as well.
Interviewer: But didn't the Indian advance into Sindh ran counter to the military operations being limited to the Punjab region?
Khan: Not at all, because while the Indian forces were advancing throughout Sindh and our portion of Punjab, they were also aiming to capture all of our portion of Kashmir as well. In fact, the capture of all of Kashmir was not only in the interests of the Indian government, but the Soviets as well, since they would now be able to share a direct border with India. A common border between the Soviet Union and India would not only be a threat to China, but it would imperil the security of the world. Luckily, the Soviet Union dissolved, so we didn't have to worry about it.
Interviewer: With the USSR dissolved by 1995, Pakistan didn't have to worry about the potential danger of the USSR and India sharing a border, but the Afghan Civil War of 1990 to 1998 had also been a disaster for both Afghanistan and Pakistan. As I recall hearing you speak in Washington by 2000, the Afghan Civil War had dragged on for so long because the DRA Army leadership had declared that it was no longer fighting for communism, but for Afghan sovereignty against an invasion from the south. Yet, the Mujahideen had become more popular because of their devotion to Islam through jihad, and they felt that they had a chance to replace the communist-led government with one that would preserve Islamic traditions. However, Pakistan's direct involvement in the Afghan Civil War was rather controversial, since it costed them the chance to repel the Indian assault on Islamabad. Do you agree with said statement above?
Khan: Yes, and no. It was a bit controversial in that much of our forces, my battalion included, were being shipped to fight in Afghanistan while our capital was being assaulted by the Indian Army. However, we had no choice but to help the Mujahideen with the liberation of Afghanistan, since technically we were at war with the DRA. What proved to be even more tragic was that in the midst of our desire to bring down the communist regime in Kabul, we left more of Sindh open to Indian advances, and it culminated with the Siege of Karachi, that took place from March 2nd to March 27th, by which time President Jesse Jackson finally called for ceasefire on both sides. Within that same time period as well, we saw much of Islamabad fall to the Indian Army, and that was when they accepted President Jackson's plea for the ceasefire.
Interviewer: But what about the Siege of Jalalabad that took place back in February of 1990?
Khan: The Battle for Jalalabad was without a doubt, a disaster for us. What was worse was that in the attempt to capture the Salang Pass, the DRA soldiers not only managed to repel the attack on the Salang tunnel, but they've managed to kill several Mujahideen fighters in the process. It also proved to be a huge bonanza for the DRA government and President Mohammad Najibullah when he received news that a young Mujahideen fighter named Ahmad Shah Massoud was among the dead fighters killed by the DRA Army.
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BREAKING! INDIAN FORCES ISSUES ORDERS FOR CEASEFIRE AS BOTH INDIA AND PAKISTAN COMMENCE PEACE NEGOTIATIONS WITH SEVERAL NATIONS OFFERING TO HOST THEM, THE NETHERLANDS AND ARGENTINA AMONG THEM Sydney Herald March 14, 1990
(Indian-Occupied Islamabad, PAKISTAN) - The Indian Armed Forces had issued a general ceasefire order to all its active personnel as both India and Pakistan had heeded US President Jesse Jackson's plea for a ceasefire and a temporary halt to all military activities. The order has come at a time when much of Pakistan's capital of Islamabad, as well as the strategic ports of Karachi and Gwadar, had been destroyed and occupied by naval infantry troops belonging to the Indian Navy, though Pakistani forces stationed in Afghanistan continue their offensive operations alongside the Mujahideen fighters that were now freed from their duties in defending Pakistan, and were now able to rejoin their comrades in liberating the Afghan homeland from communist rule. Although Pakistani civilians fear reprisals from the victorious Indian military, newly appointed Indian Minister of Defense Prem Nath Hoon has issued strict orders for all Indian military personnel to abide by the Geneva Convention in the treatment of civilians and POWs under their control. So far, no attacks carried out on Indian personnel has been reported, although other Indian forces are still engaged in the hunt for the remaining Khalistani separatist leaders. Other areas of Pakistan under Indian occupation are bracing for protests against the presence of Indian soldiers, especially in Sindh, where a lack of defenses in the region had allowed the Indian Army to push forward quickly. Although there were no shortages of countries that offered to host a peace summit that would formally put an end to the conflict between India and Pakistan, among them the Netherlands and surprisingly enough, Argentina, in the end the international community has selected Denmark to host the peace summit.
"Denmark has stepped up in its role in international affairs with this opportunity to help mediate the end of the war between India and Pakistan. We hope that with our role as the host for this peace summit, we could has out the details of the peace treaty that will be signed," says Danish Foreign Minister Uffe Ellemann-Jensen, during a press conference in the Danish capital. "The delegates from both India and Pakistan will come, but I would strongly suggest that no delegate from either the United States or the Soviet Union should be present."
Danish Foreign Minister Ellemann-Jensen's warning to both superpowers to not send observers and delegates to the peace summit in Copenhagen had stunned both leaders of those respective nations, even though the Soviet Union had openly backed India in its conflict in the Punjab region. While Soviet Premier Anatoly Lukyanov has agreed to not send its people to Copenhagen, US President Jesse Jackson has expressed his concern that the US is being pushed out of the peace conference, given that he was the one that called on India and Pakistan to cease their military operations. Yet, because Soviet-American relations have reached an all time low, the Jackson administration has wisely decided to not send its own people to the Danish capital. As for the peace summit, both Indian and Pakistani Foreign Ministers and their respective ambassadors will be attending the summit.
"We hope that the peace treaty that will be signed between our two countries would result in building an everlasting peace, although we are not sure how long will that peace will last," says Indian External Affairs Minister Inder Kumar Gujral, when asked about the territorial gains that India is aiming in this case. "The issue of Jammu and Kashmir will be resolved once and for all, and for our other security issues related to the activities of the Khalistani separatists will also be addressed."
Speculators have predicted that India seeks to annex more of Pakistan's eastern Punjab region, especially areas that hold special religious significance in all of Sikhism, including Nankana Sahib and even Lahore, which was Pakistan's center of finance. However, such maximalist desires had been shot down by Vishnawath Prathap Singh as reckless and dangerous, and he has insisted on a modest annexation of eastern Punjab, from the Jhelum River to the Pir Mahal-Bahawalnagar line, while annexing the rest of Pakistan's Kashmir region, which consists of Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan. The extreme proposal for the annexation of eastern Punjab with both the Indus and Jhelum Rivers as its new western border, up to the border towns of Sadiqabad and Tanot had been supported by more hardline politicians and military leaders desiring a deeper defensive depth to prevent Pakistan from building up more forces that would strike into western India, though moderate voices feared that maximalist territorial annexations would not gain support from the international community.
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CHAPTER THIRTY FOUR: RED TERROR UNDONE
"Although the Soviet bloc had not yet known it by then, the coup launched against Mikhail Gorbachev and the rise of Anatoly Lukyanov had started the process towards the 1989 Revolutions that toppled much of the communist regimes in Eastern Europe. It was also shocking that while the Western world had greeting the first day of Christmas, December 25 would also be known in the Islamic world as the day that the Mujahideen had launched an invasion of southern Afghanistan from their bases in Pakistan. Although much of the DRA Army had been stuck besieging the city of Peshawar, their position was becoming more vulnerable as the Mujahideen had began to seize Afghan border towns, all the while they're being greeted with jubilation by the civilians who were forced to live under a regimented Marxist-Leninist regime that has come to power in Kabul. The news of various violent revolutions that toppled communist regimes in Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria, along with a mutiny breaking out in East Germany, had dampened the mood inside both the Soviet Union and Afghanistan. For the latter, the fears of the Soviet Union's collapse is tied to its own fate as well, since any loss of Soviet support would mean that the Mujahideen would be poised to topple them from power. Indeed, the elections of non-communists in power was the first time since the 1930s or 1940s that Central and Eastern Europe held free elections, and the victory of virulent anti-communists in the crumbling Soviet bloc was the precursor to what was to follow inside the Soviet Union itself. A rare foresight by Premier Lukyanov had been displayed when in January of 1990, the Lukyanov government had called for the resolution to what it saw as a growing threat to its southern borders by the calls for attaching the Nagorno Karabakh region, which was an autonomous republic within the Azeri SSR, to the Armenian SSR. Seeing as an extremely risky but hugely rewarding gamble, both Premier Lukyanov and Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevernadze called for a meeting with the leaders of the Armenian and Azeri Communist Parties in the city of Grozny, in the Chechen-Ingush ASSR. The meeting between those leaders had been extremely tense: both Stepan Pogosyan and Abdurrahman Vazirov had shouted at each other, trading accusations of inciting ethnic violence against each other's minorities. It has gotten worse to the point where Shevardnadze had threatened to sanction the two feuding leaders unless they silenced themselves. Lukyanov, eager to prevent any further violence in the Caucasus, was desperate to keep the loyalty of all three Caucasian republics within the Union. He knew that Nagorno-Karabakh, with its Armenian minority there, would be used by any hostile rival to instigate the instability of the Soviet Union. At the same time, there was also the issue of Nakhichevan, which was an enclave of the Azeri SSR that was cut off from its homeland by the Armenian province of Syunik. One of the proposals that Lukyanov had come up with was that Armenia would cede the southern raions of Syunik, or what they call the Zangezur Corridor, to Azerbaijan. In return, Azerbaijan would surrender three western raions of Nakhichevan to Armenia, along with the surrounding lands south of Nagorno-Karabakh called the Lachin Corridor. Although this agreement had been met with such outrage by the Armenian and Azeri delegates, Lukyanov warned that the alternative would either be further instability in the Caucasus, or both Nagorno-Karabakh and Nakhichevan would be directly administered by the Soviet government as an oblast under the jurisdiction of the Russian SFSR. To ensure that permanent peace would be established in the greater southern Caucasus region, the Soviet Army would supervise the population exchanges between the Armenians and Azeris living on each other's lands to prevent potential acts of ethnic cleansing. The infamous Grozny Proposal that came out of it, had been a source of tensions between Russia and Turkey, seeing the proposal as something that favored Armenia more than Azerbaijan, since it robbed the Azeris of a common border with Turkey, all at the same time it expanded Turkey's border with Armenia. Yet, the Grozny Agreement had benefited both Armenia and Azerbaijan as they were able to connect their ethnic kin that were living on the wrong sides of their respective borders. To ensure that the peace would continue, the Soviet and later Russian Army would expand the Gyumri military base in Armenia, while building a new base in Bilasuvar, and has expanded the Vaziani military base in Georgia. The presence of those Russian bases had been a source of controversy in the Caucasus, since those bases represented much of Russian imperialist influence in the region, until the foundation of the Eurasian Security Treaty Organization in 2004, which Russia and the Caucasian successor states had been the founding members." From 'Caucasian Gambit: Russia and the Caucasus Beyond the Cold War', released by Radio TRT Documentary.
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Portions from the Interview with Former Philippine Air Force Colonel Antonio Sotelo CTV Interview, April 5, 1991
Discussing the First Few Years of Artemio Tadiar's Dictatorship
Interviewer: Just before your exile in Canada, you were constantly issuing warnings to the entire world about the dangers of Artemio Tadiar's dictatorship, calling it a 'stratocratic regime' where the military calls the shot in almost every aspect of the lives of the Filipinos that are now facing what is essentially a worse dictatorship than the ones that they suffered under the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos. From the management of the scarce economic resources to even the administrative work of running a series of labour camps for the political dissidents that challenged him. However, the year 1990 was also when the Tadiar regime had faced its greatest challenges, namely the Mount Pinatubo eruption and the earthquakes that were triggered in central Philippines. Were you scared of the Tadiar regime's inability to handle such challenges?
Sotelo: I was, but to my surprise, the Tadiar regime quickly mobilized in response to the earthquakes and typhoons. The military reforms that the Chilean officers introduced through their stint as teachers in the Philippine Military Academy had placed a heavy emphasis on disaster response and preparedness, which extended to the civilian half of it. The Philippine Coast Guard was also being reformed as well by introducing the Joint Naval-Coast Guard Command structure, where officers of the Coast Guard and the Navy would collaborate on disaster preventions, as well as deploying Coast Guard vessels as auxilliaries in the event that the Philippines would get involved in a naval battle. While the Tadiar regime would no doubt take the credit for the lessened casualties, it awoke the entire nation to the truth that most of our buildings wouldn't last long against a stronger earthquake. That was the lesson the Americans learned with the Loma Prieta Earthquake.
Interviewer: The reconstruction efforts made by the Tadiar regime was hampered by a lack of sophisticated construction equipment and materials. Keep in mind that this was also happening while the Jackson administration had issued the order for all US military personnel to withdraw and evacuate from their bases in Clark Air Base and Subic Bay Naval Base. Did the Philippines eventually received some form of assistance?
Sotelo: To an extent, it did. However, it was mainly Japan and Australia that provided the humanitarian assistance, and given that the foreign humanitarian volunteers were still working in the Philippines long after the Filipino Civil War was over had made it easier to administer aid to the displaced persons affected by the typhoons and earthquakes. The US government gave over 400 million dollars in aid, which the Tadiar regime used to purchase mainly food and medical supplies. Britain donated something around 100 million pound sterling, which was used to purchase construction equipment and parts to help maintain it.
Interviewer: Was there any sign of corruption while the foreign aid was flowing into the country?
Sotelo: None at all, because Tadiar issued orders to all military and civilian personnel working for him that any sign of corruption and embezzlement would be punishable by death, with the perpetrator being shot without a trial. He called that threat Article Dos, and to my shock, Article Uno was revived and revised for the current junta. Article Uno states that any military or civilian who disobeys an order issued by the military will be shot without a trial. Article Dos covers the punishment for graft, embezzlement and corruption.
Interviewer: (pauses) In any case, what did the Tadiar regime do with the properties in the Philippines that were owned by the Marcos family?
Sotelo: Tadiar had turned all of the Marcos mansions into emergency centers where the displaced persons had temporarily resided. After the earthquake and typhoons were over and the civilians returned to their homes, they've placed the Marcos properties in Metro Manila on sale, which was bought by the former Marcos cronies that switched their allegiance to Tadiar. The rest of them were turned into dormitories for military personnel. Talaga Beach, which had been exclusively reserved for the Marcos family, was turned into a Philippine Marine Corps training ground for the Marines, while the seaside resort in Tolosa, Leyte had been purchased by the Tadiar regime and sold it to a Japanese billionaire named Yoshiaki Tsutsumi.
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Excerpts from "Pancevski and Yugoslavia Beyond the Cold War" by: Ljubomir Kovacic Ravna Gora Publishing Press, released on March 17, 2021
Chapter Three: Of Refugees, Political Intrigue, and Collapse
The events of the Iran-Iraq War had awoken the international community to a horrific realization that there may be a looming refugee crisis unfolding. Though it was not just the potential amount of Iraqi and Iranian refugees that may flee their homelands due to the war, a large number of overseas Filipino migrant workers who were unable to return home because of the rise of Artemio Tadiar and his military dictatorship are facing an extremely difficult task of finding another country to settle in, even on a temporary basis. Yet, inside Yugoslavia, a political crisis of its own is unfolding as the situation in the autonomous province of Kosovo and Metohija have brought to the world press the crisis involving the Albanian population that resides within Kosovo. The Yugoslav government knew that they had to stop what appears to be a powder keg from exploding, but they could not do it in such a way that would invite unwanted trouble from outside. Thus in 1987, the president of the Socialist Republic of Serbia, Ivan Stambolic, decided to travel to Kosovo, to speak to the residents there. Stambolic's rival and opponent, hardline Serbian politician Slobodan Milosevic, had complained that he was not being chosen to travel to Kosovo to speak to the residents there, but the Yugoslav government had a good reason to not send him down there. The growing danger of a reawakened Serbian nationalism, and Milosevic's own support of the hardline policies of the late Aleksandar Rankovic, was the reason why President Lazar Mojsov was not willing to trigger a nationalist backlash. However, what Mojsov would not realize, was that another danger to Yugoslavia was waiting in the wings. One of the emerging pro-Lukyanovite politicians that had championed the same kind of slow reforms that Soviet Premier Anatoly Lukyanov himself had proposed for the Soviet Union was Milan Pancevski. Pancevski had also joined a few Yugoslav politicians who advocated for the entry of Middle Eastern and Overseas Filipino refugees stuck in the warzone between Iraq and Iran into its territory. Indeed, Pancevski had personally supervised the construction of several refugee camps throughout Yugoslavia, starting in Kumanovo, and Bitola. By March of 1988, the first few thousand Iranian and Filipino refugees had landed in Yugoslav territory and were sent to those refugee camps. Iranian and Iraqi refugees that fled from their homeland had been sent to the camps in Bosnia and Kosovo, while Filipino refugees would be sent to other camps elsewhere in Yugoslavia. Though they only stayed there for two years, due to Yugoslavia's discussion with western governments on the amount of refugees that they're willing to take in, they've built a semblance to normalcy in those new camps. Locals would often visit them to check up on them, and the Iraqi and Iranian refugees would eventually be able to leave for the West after 1991. However, Filipino refugees have taken a lot longer to be accepted by other nations because of their own societal problems relating to immigrants and refugees. In 1990, US President Jesse Jackson had met with President Borislav Jovic to discuss the potential nations willing to take in the Filipino refugees that have been stranded inside Yugoslavia. It was by this time that President Jackson had revealed to President Jovic that under no circumstances should any refugee of any nationality be allowed to end up in Tadiar's Philippines, especially the Filipinos that fled from that country because of him.
The refugee crisis in the Middle East on the other hand, had already placed an agonizing strain on much of Yugoslavia's declining economy as Pancevski had come out against the Yugoslav government's decision to adopt certain neo-liberal reforms imposed by the International Monetary Fund in exchange for the IMF loans needed to stabilize much of Yugoslavia's economy, and to help it recover so it can repay the loans that it obtained from the West for its economic revival. Pancevski had called for the gradual introduction of agricultural cooperatives and many other plans for the sales of agricultural land to any foreigner that wanted to move to Yugoslavia, though the latter had been vetoed by the hardliners led by Milosevic, not wanting to see any more Yugoslav economic assets taken over by various foreigners tied to international commerce. To help mend and improve ties between Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union, President Jovic would send Pancevski and several other officials, including Milosevic, Momir Bulatovic and Petar Goshev, to Moscow in August of 1989, for a meeting with Premier Lukyanov. The meeting there had not yet produced any tangible result, though Lukyanov had placated the Yugoslav delegation by inviting them to the upcoming Sino-Soviet Summit of 1990 in the city of Zabaikalsk, with other communist regimes that remained loyal. However, Yugoslavia would be unable to attend the Zabaikalsk summit in 1990, on account of growing political turmoil breaking out across its territory, with a military coup launched in April of 1990 by several JNA generals led by Veljko Kadijevic.
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YUGOSLAVIA REJECTS CALLS BY PHILIPPINES TO EXPATRIATE FILIPINO MIGRANT WORKERS AS FEARS OF POLITICAL REPRESSIONS CONTINUE TO RISE Vancouver Sun February 15, 1990
(Belgrade, YUGOSLAVIA) - Yugoslav authorities had rejected a demand made by Filipino military dictator Artemio Tadiar to repatriate the thousands of overseas Filipino migrant workers that were stranded in the Middle East, but had now temporarily resided within its borders. The Filipino migrant workers who were employed in Iraq and Iran, but were also employed in untouched nations like Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, had been relocated from the Middle East to Yugoslavia on a temporary basis, citing the international community's lack of infrastructure needed to accommodate the large number of refugees willing to stay in their territories. Furthermore, the Filipino migrant workers that are now inside Yugoslavia are either opponents of the late former dictator in Ferdinand Marcos, or had relatives who fought on the side of deposed former President Corazon Aquino. Migrant workers who belonged to both factions had a lot to fear from returning to a junta-controlled Philippines, citing the political repression inflicted by the Tadiar regime. Additionally, the same migrant workers who are temporarily residing inside Yugoslavia were concerned that much of their hard earned foreign currency may be stolen by desperate remittance workers inside the Philippines, or worse, as the Philippine peso's value had continued to decline to the point where 1 US dollar is now worth over 200 Philippine pesos.
"My grandmother told me that the money that I sent to her in Carranglan, Nueva Ecija, had not yet reached her, despite sending it almost a month ago," says 19 year old Filipino migrant worker Antonio Belmonte, who used to work as a janitor in a Mosul hospital, before evacuating from Iraq and temporarily residing in a refugee camp close to Mostar, in the Socialist Republic of Bosnia and Hercegovina within Yugoslavia. "She also told me that her neighbors have caught several remittance workers stealing the money that was meant for them, and the thieves have been arrested as a result."
Veterans of the Filipino Civil War who fought on the side of the New People's Army are also finding it difficult to stay in the Philippines, as the Tadiar regime is frequently employing both regular military forces and paramilitary personnel in destroying the communist cells that are often found in the center of the country. However, anti-communist atrocities and reprisals were so brutal that it single handedly triggered another communist rebellion, forcing the Tadiar regime to place the country back on a war footing, this time hoping to wipe out the communist guerrillas for good. Moreover, the presence of Chilean military officers sent by the Augusto Pinochet regime to the Philippines in order to help the Philippine military reform itself as a means of making up for the lost opportunities to mend and improve diplomatic ties due to American intervention and their role in preventing General Pinochet from visiting the Philippines while the late Ferdinand Marcos was still alive. As a result, the military reforms introduced by the Chilean military delegation to the Philippines have yet to bear fruit, though captured communist guerrillas have been reported to undergo severe torture for interrogation purposes, before being summarily shot.
"It's very dangerous to carry out the struggle for the liberation of the working class from the brutality of this fascistic military junta led by the Butcher of Ortigas Avenue. They're taking off the gloves, so to speak, and treated some of our comrades that have been captured like cattle," says Joseph Paduano, after fleeing from the Philippines and arriving in Vietnam. "The Tadiar regime is now using the concept of the protracted people's war against our movement, and is now calling on all of the reactionaries to start exterminating us like cockroaches."
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1990 TREATY OF COPENHAGEN (SIGNED ON MARCH 24, 1990)
Terms of the Treaty of Copenhagen are as follows:
1) The Islamic Republic of Pakistan will cede the territories of eastern Punjab with significant Sikh populations and where the holy sites of Sikhism are located to the Republic of India. The ceded territories of eastern Punjab will be from the Jhelum River in the north, to the Pir Mahal-Bahawalnagar line.
2) The Islamic Republic of Pakistan will cede the provinces of Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan to the Republic of India, and in return, India will abandon any additional territorial claims to Pakistani territory.
3) All Indian troops inside Pakistani territory not subject to annexation will withdraw within three months, witthout interruption. In return, Pakistan will commit to the withdrawal of all foreign volunteers that have fought to defend the territorial integrity of Pakistan.
4) Both the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and the Republic of India will dismantle the network of known separatist groups belonging to the Khalistan movement, and to formally bring to justice any known Khalistani separatist leaders who refuse to surrender to either Pakistani or Indian authorities.
5) The Islamic Republic of Pakistan will pay to the Republic of India approximately $80 million US Dollars as war reparations for damages that it incurred, though the Republic of India shall agree to pursue no further demands for additional reparations.
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"We are just receiving news from the city of Tallinn, in the Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic. Approximately around 0900 hours local time, 50,000 Soviet Army forces returning from their tour in Afghanistan have arrived at the border town of Narva, with the sole intention of putting down what appears to be a large unsanctioned gathering that have erupted throughout the Baltic Republics. At the same time, 60,000 soldiers have also arrived in the Latvian border town of Karsava for a similar operation, and 40,000 troops have been airlifted to the Lithuanian town of Medininkai. It is becoming clear that the Soviet forces that have now arrived in the Baltic republics have been given an order from Soviet Premier Anatoly Lukyanov to put down the rebellions that have broken out in the region. The commander of these forces sent to the Baltics, General Igor Rodionov, have acknowledged Premier Lukyanov's order and has stated that it will carry out the order to the best of the abilities of the Soviet forces. It is becoming clear that the Soviet Union will not show any mercy to the Baltic protesters fighting for their own freedom from Soviet occupation, and as the international community has never recognized the Soviet annexation of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, it is pressuring the United Nations to intervene on the side of the three Baltic republics." From NBC's breaking news on April 30, 1990, regarding the Soviet military intervention to stop the Singing Revolution.
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"It was a sad tragedy that the collapse of the Soviet Union happened, though we did our very best to preserve what was left of the Union. Unfortunately, as the USSR was expelled from the United Nations for trying to suppress such counter-revolutionary activities that broke out in its western republics, we were told that we can only rejoin the UN as separate republics, and that the Soviet Union was not allowed to exist in any form at all. There is no doubt that traitorous forces inside the Union, as well as the so-called international community, wanted our Union to die. I have no doubts that certain vermin like that Pole Brzezinski, who has an atavistic hatred of anything Russian, due to his ethnic origin, is behind it, as well as the rest of the American political establishment whose hatred of Russia matches that of Brzezinski's. His fingerprints were everywhere; he has played a role in inciting the Lithuanians to take control of Kaliningrad Oblast, and subject 200,000 of our compatriots to such ethnic terror that they were expelled at gunpoint. The tragic expulsion of our compatriots, which occurred on August 15, 1990, was the real start of what the international community would refer to as the Second Russian Civil War, though the Baltic politicians would say that we initiated such a conflict with the suppression of their Singing Revolution and the Voru Massacre that had happened seven days before the Kaliningrad Expulsion. No matter what we would say, the so-called international community will never trust or listen to the words of what an ethnic Russian would say. If the so-called international community does not want to listen to what we would say, then our answer should be, 'fine! we just won't have to listen to what you have to say!', for we do not tolerate being treated like some sort of vassal of a growing empire built on exploitation of its own people, as well as the bones of certain races that have been exterminated." Igor Rodionov, from his 2001 speech on the expulsion of the USSR from the United Nations after the notorious Motyli Massacre of 1993 was uncovered, where the bodies of 14,000 Belarusian Poles were uncovered.
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Portions from a Leaked Conversation between Former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski and Ex-Ku Klux Klan Klansman David Duke
BRZEZINSKI: Do you know why I made this risky decision to call you to this meeting here in New Orleans, Mr. Duke?
DUKE: (shrugs) I have no idea, Mr. Brzezinski, although I have other things to do thank to waste someone's time.
BRZEZINSKI: (laughs) Well, maybe perhaps I could offer you something that you won't refuse.
DUKE: What would that be?
BRZEZINSKI: You see, I'm thinking of recruiting several thousands of people to go fight in the coming civil war that will break out in the Soviet Union. You're a former Klansman and a Grand Wizard at that, so perhaps you know some people within the Klan who would love to obtain some military experience in fighting communists.
DUKE: (pauses and closes his eyes) I've been out of the Klan for a very long time, but I do know some people that are still sore about the failure of Red Dog, and our attempt to make Patrick John the Prime Minister of Dominica.
BRZEZINSKI: (grins) Can you contact whoever is still in the Klan?
DUKE: (sighs) I'll have to talk to Don Black about organizing another Red Dog like operation, but I'll have more success getting our Canadian brothers in the Klan to join us.
BRZEZINSKI: In that case, how long until you're able to form the necessary unit that will be sent to fight in the Soviet Union? Ideally, we'll need around 12,000 or more, but if you can only drudge up to 5,000, that would be okay as well.
DUKE: (nods) I agree. Of course, are we fighting as an independent unit?
BRZEZINSKI: (shakes his head) No. You and your unit will be joining this new formation that I'm organizing with the members of the National Rebirth of Poland, who will lead the unit. Of course, we'll be naming the organization consisting of the foreign fighters that are anti-communist as the Euro-Atlantic Foreign Legion.
DUKE: That has a nice ring to it. And I trust that you'll also allow my friends in the Klan to form their own branches throughout Eastern Europe?
BRZEZINSKI: Why in God's good heaven would I allow you to export your hillbilly hooliganism to Eastern Europe? (snorts) Honestly, we have a different behavioral style to the ones that we can find in the backwoods of the South.
DUKE: (glares at BRZEZINSKI) It seems that as a politician, you're out of touch with the realities that the average American is facing. You're like every other sold out politician; always thinking of the world at large when the needs of the people at home are being neglected. That black President of yours has already decided to expand on Jacob Javits's plan to make America less white by bringing in those browns from the Philippines. I'm starting to realize that America's annexation of those bunch of islands was a mistake.
BRZEZINSKI: A mistake!? Don't you realize that the United States became a superpower because of its annexation of the Philippines?
DUKE: And how many of those dark skinned folks did we kill before deciding that they'd be better off as servants of the more superior whites? Year after year, we're seeing more of them arrive here, and with a military junta that has taken power, I'm starting to think that maybe Artemio Tadiar was right to stabilize the country first.
BRZEZINSKI: (growls) Can we change the subject then?
DUKE: Sure. As I've said, if you can allow my colleagues to establish the new Eastern European branches of the KKK, they'd be more than happy to help fight for this new Euro-Atlantic brotherhood, as long as it's built on a more ethno-nationalist pillar. Western Europe is starting to face the consequences of multiculturalism, and I know who's behind it.
BRZEZINSKI: Look, I don't have time for your racial crap. So, do you accept my terms then, Mr. Duke?
DUKE: We'll accept it if you accept our offer to allow the Klan to build new branches in Eastern Europe.
BRZEZINSKI: (snorts) On that, I'll have to pass.
DUKE: Then we won't join in your little crusade. Let us not forget though, you were the one that approached me for my help in your noble anti-communist crusade. I offered my terms as a precondition, and I'm going to add one more. Perhaps if you allow me to circulate my own writings, as well as the writings of William Luther Pierce, and share it with the rest of Eastern Europe, then we'll have a more sound footing.
BRZEZINSKI: I know too well of your writings, and that of Mr. Pierce. Europe has stringent laws against the publishing of those writings that you have, and don't forget, I won't tolerate any more of that Nazi crap that you're spouting.
DUKE: Any more than your rhetoric of turning the United States into the lone unipolar power? While I agree with some of your plans to make America the only unipolar power in the world, who's going to benefit from such a thing? Yourself?
BRZEZINSKI: Everyone will benefit from America being the only top dog in the world.
DUKE: (laughs) Everyone? Or is it the ruling class that is tied to international finance?
BRZEZINSKI: You know, I could pitch this idea to Mr. Rothschild and Mr. Soros about it instead of wasting my time with you.
DUKE: Really? Do you think Mr. Rothschild and Mr. Soros will want your input about the same proposal that you've given to me? They'll spit on you the moment they find out about our conversation here. Moreover, they don't have any best interests of the entire Euro-Atlantic alliance at heart.
BRZEZINSKI: They definitely will. It's their money that's going to be used to destroy Russia.
DUKE: Ah yes, destroy Russia, and what comes next? More dead white Russians that could have been used as another group of white soldiers against the colored tide?
BRZEZINSKI: I don't expect you to understand the bad blood between my people and that of the Russians.
DUKE: True. but it only plays into the hands of the ones that triggered the conflict in the first place. While I think that the Soviet Union deserves to die for the crimes it has committed against its people, destroying the Russian people will only be counter-productive in the long run. Besides, such a humiliation on a large scale could be fertile ground to spread some of our writings, and even that of Adolf Hitler, into Russian soil.
BRZEZINSKI: As I've said, drop that Nazi crap. I'll ask you one last time: do you agree with my proposal?
DUKE: (frowns) What other hidden conditions do you have for me?
BRZEZINSKI: You can become a Roman Catholic.
DUKE: (laughs) Me? A Catholic? Dr. Jones* already tried that, and it failed. It is laughable to think that a Klansman can become a Catholic. Do you even know the history of the Klan and why we're opposed to the Papists?
BRZEZINSKI: At the very least, your Klan could be more open to bringing Catholics into the fold.
DUKE: (stands up) You know what? I'll take the deal. Just don't cry to me if it fails, because then you should have listened to what I've said about the opportunity for a new Europe to arise from the ashes of the Cold War. (walks out)
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"The bizarre and dangerous plan to recruit known neo-Nazis and white supremacists to fight against the Soviet government in the Second Russian Civil War had been one of the riskiest ventures that former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski had developed, on par with his decision to use the Afghan Mujahideen to fight the Soviet Army occupying Afghanistan. While the blowback from using the Mujahideen was that Islamic fundamentalist terrorism had emerged as a result, the blowback from using known white supremacists to fight the Soviet government had been the sharp rise of domestic extremism and violence that the veterans of the Second Russian Civil War had used in their fight against their perceived enemies. It was not an accident that the Klansmen that were recruited as mercenaries had committed various war crimes against civilians, mostly ethnic Russians. What was worse though, was that ethnic Russian paramilitary groups had used the atrocities committed against them as an excuse to justify their revenge killings by targeting their ethnic enemies for such extermination campaigns. In the Baltics, the Russian paramilitaries had slaughtered over 9,000 Estonians, 12,000 Latvians, and 8,500 Lithuanians over the period between 1991 and 1994, on top of the massacres of the Poles living in Belarus. The genocidal rhetoric displayed by both sides during the Second Russian Civil War had surpassed the tragedies of its First Civil War that broke out in Russia almost 80 years ago. What was the most damaging legacy of the Second Russian Civil War? First, the Ku Klux Klan had established local Eastern European branches of their organization as a means of promoting their hateful rhetoric against ethnic Russians (despite being white as well), non-whites, and Jews. It has gotten worse to the point where the early members of the notorious Logos Defense Corporation mercenary unit were active far-right extremists. In 1996, far-right extremists connected to the Polish branch of the Ku Klux Klan had firebombed a neighborhood of Warsaw called Bielany, where the local foreign population had lived. The foreigners, mainly Filipino refugees fleeing from the Tadiar regime, but other Asians as well, such as Vietnamese and Indians, and also Africans, were targeted for such a pogrom. The Polish public was outraged by the attacks, eventually leading to Poland banning extremist organizations from operating on its soil. However Polish intelligence had given the Polish branch of the KKK a deal: fold and create a new group that would be used for political purposes, or they would stand trial for hate crimes and be sent to life imprisonment. The Polish extremists would take the deal, but would join the Logos Defense Group instead of forming their own extremist successor to the short lived Polish branch of the KKK. Much of the later members of the Logos Defense Corporation would be hired by the American government, especially during the Kemp administration, for a major conflict against Cuba, Nicaragua, and against a leftist uprising in Venezuela led by members of a left-wing breakaway faction led by Ramon Rodriguez Chacin. Logos Defense Corporation members had acquired a ruthless reputation for its merciless treatment of prisoners of war, executing them in cold blood. However, it was thanks to this kind of foolhardy gamble that both Logos and its Russian rival in Terminal Division Group would acquire a horrific reputation as a pack of mercenary killers." Alex Jones, from 'Brzezinski: The Monster Behind America's Mask', courtesy of TrippWire.
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MOLDOVAN PARAMILITARY UNITS FORM IN RESPONSE TO GROWING SOVIET MILITARY DEPLOYMENT INSIDE BALTIC REPUBLICS WITHIN USSR AS FEARS OF CRACKDOWN ON UNSANCTIONED GATHERINGS CONTINUE TO RISE Calgary Herald April 17, 1990
(Kishinev, MOLDOVAN SSR) - As news of continued Soviet military deployment into the Baltic republics within the Soviet Union continue to circulate, the government of the Moldovan SSR has announced the formation of paramilitary forces that would act separately from the regular Soviet Ground Forces units that are stationed inside the Moldovan SSR. As a series of unsanctioned gatherings continue to break out, posing a challenge to the Lukyanov regime, Soviet authorities had authorized not only the additional deployment of troops from the Interior Ministry, as well as OMON special police units that were deployed to the Moldovan capital. Moreover, over 85,000 Soviet troops have been redeployed from their stint in Afghanistan to the unrecognized Gagauz ASSR, as a means of keeping much of their troops prepared for any possible intervention. Fearing a similar crackdown to the Baltics, the Moldovan SSR's neighbor, the Ukrainian SSR, had opted to adopt the same countermeasure by forming similar paramilitary forces from Ukrainian troops serving in the Soviet Army seeking to switch their allegiance to a future independent Ukrainian Republic. So far, the Soviet authorities have not yet done anything to provoke further violence.
"We are growing worried about the possibility of a conflict breaking out inside the Moldovan SSR. There is no doubt that the Moldovan people are growing tired of Russian tyranny and are awaiting liberation by our own forces," says Romanian General Nicolae Militaru, when asked by a Yugoslav reporter about the crisis within the Moldovan SSR. "We are also aware that the Ukrainians are also eager to get rid of the Russian tyrant occupying their territory, and are eager to collaborate with us in expelling the unwanted reminder of Russian imperialism in Transnistria."
Adding to the volatile fears of a wider war within the Soviet Union, the Special Congress of the Representatives of the Gagauz People had filed a petition to Premier Lukyanov on the creation of a Gagauz SSR and its admission into the USSR as a separate republic citing the underrepresentation of the Gagauz minority that resides within the Moldovan SSR. Likewise, the breakaway Transnistrian separatists were also lobbying for the recognition and formation of a Transnistrian ASSR that would transfer itself from the Moldovan SSR to the Russian SFSR, though this proposal was not accepted by the Lukyanov regime, as it didn't want to add any more destabilization efforts towards the Ukrainian SSR. However, the Gagauz case had been presented by the leader of the breakaway Gagauz entity, Stepan Topal. Topal had argued that the Gagauz people had never been represented well within the Moldovan SSR, and that the fate of his homeland and his people hangs in the air when mentioning the possibility of Moldova reuniting with Romania and the mood of the Ukrainian SSR in response to the growing instability within the Moldovan SSR.
"For too long, our people have been denied the right to represent ourselves within the Soviet Union as a whole. We have advocated for our right to establish our autonomy within the Moldovan SSR's constitutional framework, only for that authority to deny us that right based on their interpretation of the constitutional framework that's different from our own interpretation," says Topal, in front of a cheering crowd of supporters in the newly declared capital of the Gagauz SSR, Comrat. "Together with the Russian minority that resides in the region of Transnistria, we can help prevent the breakup of this great Union and stop the Romanian irredentists from reabsorping the Moldovan SSR."
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Portions from the Interview with Former Ukrainian Paramilitary Leader Oleksander Muzychko Radio Television Ukraine, released on August 23, 2017
Discussing the Outbreak of the Second Russian Civil War and the Second Ukrainian War of Independence
Interviewer: Mr. Muzychko, the recent decision by former President Tenyukh to step down from his position as President of Ukraine had been met with applause by the international community and the eventual election of Vitalii Linetskyi as Ukraine's second President. We're thankful for your efforts in freeing our homeland from the shackles of Soviet terror and Russian imperialism.
Muzychko: I appreciate it, Ma'am.
Interviewer: Anyways, our ECA application is still on hold because of the territorial disputes that we have with the empire that should never be named, and it is really a source of anguish and frustration on the part of our people. Are you in support of integration into the ECA?
Muzychko: I'm already skeptical about Ukraine being a part of this Intermarium project led by Poland, since it's basically the replay of when our ancestors were working as virtual slaves for Polish landlords before Bohdan Khmelnytskyi launched his uprising that ultimately created what would become modern Ukraine in the Cossack Hetmanate. Yet, even he has committed a great sin by asking the bloody Muscovites for help!
Interviewer: Setting that aside, what was your role as the leader of the Ukrainian People's Self-Defense paramilitary group during the Second Ukrainian War of Independence?
Muzychko: Well, before that conflict broke out, I had to convince most of my comrades in arms that were fighting in the Soviet Ground Forces to desert their unit and to join the UNSO. In addition, we also had to create our own paramilitary unit that was inspired by the Moldovan paramilitary formations. We were basically an army without much needed heavy weapons.
Interviewer: But you've managed to get your hands on several Soviet weapons though, right?
Muzychko: Of course. As much as I hated Anatoly Lukyanov, he was smart enough to not station any heavy weaponry inside Ukraine, such as heavy bombers and the newer T-80 and T-72 battle tanks. Unfortunately, his so-called wisdom had robbed us of an opportunity to acquire some nuclear weapons.
Interviewer: But didn't the 37th Guards Rocket Division and the 50th Rocket Division joined the right side?
Muzychko: They did, but the rest of the 43rd Rocket Army had opted to join this breakaway entity based in both Donetsk and Kryvyi Rikh. Damn traitors. I also had to mention that the current head of the damned pack of mercenaries in the Terminal Defense Group hailed from Zaporizhzhia Oblast. That fool Balitskyi.
Interviewer: We know too well about him. So how did the UNSO gradually evolve into the modern Ukrainian Ground Forces?
Muzychko: Well, we had to tap into the knowledge of both the Ukrainians who served in the Soviet Army and some of the older veterans of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army for advice and support on how we needed to form a modern army to resist the Soviet Ground Forces. Luckily, approximately 300,000 Ukrainians who served in Afghanistan had opted to desert their units and to join our side. Those very same guys had actually played a role in the Transnistria conflict, where we managed to 'evacuate' the Russian colonists from those lands, but we only ended up taking them to Odesa, where they were evacuated on a Russian ship, bound for Crimea. This happened a few months after the Lithuanians had 'evacuated' their Russian colonists from the former Kaliningrad Oblast which is now a part of Poland that Lithuania had ceded the land to.
Interviewer: You've managed to score a major victory over the Russians in that Transnistrian conflict, often with the collaboration of the Romanian Army that helped reunite Moldova with the Romanian state. Was that conflict hard for your guys?
Muzychko: Yes, it was. As much as I hate to admit it, the Russian conscripts in the Soviet Ground Forces were fighting fanatically to defend their crumbling empire, but a third of the Soviet soldiers that were stationed in Transnistria had deserted their posts, or defected to either us or the Romanians. The story was the same in Lithuania, but in Estonia and Latvia, you had the expellees from Kaliningrad Oblast that were resettled in the so-called Russian Trans-Baltic Republic. Those guys were out for revenge, and eventually played a role in the massacres of innocent civilians.
Interviewer: What was the first day of your fight against the Russians like? Given that the Soviet Ground Forces were trying to reach Kyiv quickly, I'm sure it must have been difficult to resist their onslaught.
Muzychko: True. I remember on March 14th of 1991 that the Soviet soldiers were stuck besieging Ribky, turning into a pitched battle that we barely won, since they were needed for another offensive, this time aiming at Sumy. However, we also realized that Kyiv itself is vulnerable to Soviet capture, so we voted in favor of relocating the seat of the Ukrainian Provisional Government to Ivano-Frankivsk first, and then Lviv.
Interviewer: What about the other UNSO fighters that were deployed to eastern Ukraine?
Muzychko: Well, they unfortunately had a tougher time trying to capture parts of Kharkiv Oblast, since a good portion of the Soviet Ground Forces were deployed there. The other Soviet forces that were withdrawn from Eastern Europe were redeployed to Eastern Ukraine and to Belarus. A significant portion of Soviet troops in Kharkiv, and to a lesser extent, Donetsk, Luhansk, and even Sicheslav were from the Southern Group of Forces that were stationed in Hungary.
Interviewer: Were there any supporters of Ukrainian independence in those disputed regions?
Muzychko: Of course! However, there were a few misguided citizens that still believed in the existence of the Ukrainian SSR, and the ones that actually resisted us had openly established both the Priazoviya and the Chornozemske Sovereign Republics in response to our attempt to bring in those regions into an independent Ukraine.
Interviewer: At least you were more successful in securing the stretch of land from what was then Izmail Oblast to Kherson.
Muzychko: That, we did. It also helps that Odesa is the only port that we still have, even though we're getting foreign assistance in the development of Mykolaiv and Ochakiv as viable ports.
Interviewer: In your other opinion, what do you think triggered the civil war in the former Soviet Union then?
Muzychko: Well, you had loudmouths like Dmitry Rogozin who had been calling for the eventual consolidation of a Greater Russia within the Soviet Union where ethnic Russians reside. This was the kind of thing that justified the continued presence of those Russian colonists in eastern Ukraine, plus they were only there because of their famine genocide in the Holodomor. On the other hand, you also have a growing divide between Ukrainians and Russians, especially mixed families as well. President Tenyukh had once stated that over 98% of divorces in Ukraine during the years of 1991 to 1995 came from mixed Ukrainian-Russian families, once their political and ethnic allegiances were pronounced.
Interviewer: And what of the infamous Clash of the Dinamos that marred the 1990 Soviet Cup between Dinamo Moscow and Dynamo Kyiv? I heard that the match was postponed due to the fights that broke out between the supporters of those teams. Some called it the Soviet equivalent of the infamous Dinamo Zagreb-Red Star Belgrade clash, but unlike the one that happened in the Balkans, the Clash of the Dinamos ended with Soviet OMON personnel firing tear gas and rubber bullets into both stands. However, it was the political slogans that were actually uttered that caused the fight to break out in the first place. What do you think?
Muzychko: (sighs) I wasn't there when it happened, but Andriy Shkil attended that match in Moscow, despite being a wanted man by the KGB for his activities in Ukraine. He told me that both supporters were shouting 'Slava Ukraini!' and 'Slava Rossii!' before taunting each other. It wasn't surprising that the ultras that attended those matches would trade their football jerseys for fatigues and rifles. The Ukrainian football ultras eventually enlisted into the UNSO, while the Russian ultras joined both the Soviet Ground Forces and the Russian Frontier Guards, which was their paramilitary answer to the UNSO.
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"The infamous 1990 Soviet Cup final was probably the only black mark that was etched in the history of the Soviet Union's athletic history, mainly due to the brawls that erupted in the stands between supporters of Dinamo Moscow and Dynamo Kyiv. Before the match had begun though, the political climate inside the Soviet Union had reached a boiling point as the Soviet Army's brutal suppression of the Baltic pro-independence protesters back in April 30th of 1990 had reached international headlines. Suddenly, the division has now become more clear as supporters of formerly deposed Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev had come out from his place of house arrest in Sochi to condemn the crackdowns, saying that the Pandora's Box of counter-revolution has now been opened. To his horror, not only was he proven right, but Anatoly Lukyanov's proposed for the Reformed Union Pact which would have preserved the Soviet Union in a new form was dangerously close to being destroyed. Lukyanov would personally select some of his loyalists to head the positions of the Communist Parties of their respective republics. From the Caucasus region, Tengiz Khakhva was chosen as the leader of the Communist Party of Georgia (USSR), while Aram Sargsyan headed its Armenian branch and Hussein Ibragimov would head the Azerbaijani branch of the Communist Party. From Central Asia, Serikbolsyn Abdildin would head the Kazakh Communist Party after Nursultan Nazarbayev was passed over due to internal disputes. Meanwhile, Apas Jumagulov headed the Kyrgyz Communist Party, Allaberdy Kochekov headed the Turkmen Communist Party, Fayzali Avazov headed the Tajik Communist Party, and Obidzhon Abobakirov would lead the Uzbek Communist Party. What these regional leaders had in common were that they had been scouted and viewed by Premier Lukyanov as his proteges who would carry out the reforms needed, albeit on a slower pace. Most importantly though, these regional leaders owed their position to Lukyanov himself, meaning that they would be expected to obey his wishes, though Lukyanov was careful to not push too much. It was in the city of Shymkent five days after the notorious Clash of the Dinamos that the Shymkent Accords would be signed, which placed the Reformed Union Pact in effect, creating the Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics. Although the hammer and sickle was still kept, a half black gear would be added while the color of said hammer and sickle would change from yellow to black. Adding to the Reformed Union Pact was the Belarusian Communist Party, in which Aleksander Lukashenko would lead it. With the Reformed Union Pact in effect, it also allowed for the creation of regional branches of the KGB, including a separate Russian KGB that would have authority over the Russian SFSR. However, the regional leaders of the KGB have decentralized command, though they would take the final orders from the head of the federal Soviet KGB. The Reformed Union Pact though, would be forcefully abolished when the USSR was expelled from the United Nations for its brutal conduct during the Second Russian Civil War, and their re-entry into the UN was conditional, though harsh: they would have to re-enter as separate republics, in essence forcing the Soviet Union to abolish itself." From 'Russia Against the UN', released by TASS Documentaries, August 23, 2015.
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Re-OMAKE 09: OF DESOLATION AND REJUVENATION
"When JumboLog Games had first launched its first role playing game Desolation, few video game players had taken it seriously. Originally based in Edmonton, Alberta before its move to Squamish, British Columbia in 2009, JumboLog Games had pioneered itself on being the go to company for role playing games, as well as making an attempt at real time strategy game with the release of Europa Dominatus. Europa Dominatus's plot is centered around the 30 Years War, with the Catholics and Protestants as the respective playable factions. Though ED would be popular for several years, starting with its release in 2003, the popularity was short lived, with the growth of the Command and Conquer series. JumboLog Games's flagship video game, the Desolation series, had been accused of plagiarism by the creators of the short lived Fallout video game series, seeing some of Desolation's gameplay mechanics as too similar to Fallout, but defenders of the Desolation series had pointed out that Desolation was meant to serve as a successor to Wasteland, a post-apocalyptic themed video game that was developed long before Desolation and Fallout. Even as the accusation wars had heated up, Desolation's gameplay mechanics was inspired by both Wasteland and System Shock, though you'd see more of the shooting side as well. Ultimately, Desolation has emerged as one of the major video games that defined both the late 20th and early 21st centuries as various filmmakers are also eager to create a movie production of said video game." From 'The Rise and Fall of Desolation', courtesy of VidChute, released on January 21st, 2017
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DESOLATION MAHARLIKA
Desolation Maharlika is a role playing game that involves a playable character engaging in both shooting and searching missions. Although it has garnered intense controversy over the plotline, the game is a massive hit among the RPG video game community.
Plot: The story of Desolation Maharlika starts with the 1995 Chinese bombing campaign against both Vietnam and the Philippines, but it was not until the infamous 1998 Shanghai Oriental Pearl and Radio Tower attack in Shanghai that even more hardline elements of the People's Liberation Army has staged a coup against Wang Dongxing, leading to the resumption of not only a second bombing campaign, but the renegade PLA junta led by Zhang Haiyang would preside over a massive Chinese nuclear attack on the Philippines, killing the Filipino junta in a nuclear missile strike. An equally hardline American government led by President John McCain would order a nuclear strike on several Chinese cities, leading to MAD triggering. Europe, Russia, the rest of the Asia-Pacific nations (except for Japan and Indonesia), and Latin America are spared from the nuclear attacks, but radiation fallout still causes significant health crises throughout the world. On top of that, the massive nuclear bombing of the Philippines virtually kills over 97% of the population there, setting up for the gameplay of Desolation Maharlika
Gameplay:
The protagonist (you have the option of giving a custom name for your character) starts off in the Indonesian town of Bitung, where you are met with several humanitarian workers unloading three hundred specially designed bodybags containing the corpses of radiation victims. All of the humanitarian workers are wearing nuclear radiation protection suits and are fearful of getting sick with radiation. You ask one of the workers where those corpses come from, and you're told that it came from the Maharlikan Atomic Exclusion Zone. The conversation continues until an Indonesian Army officer approaches you and tells you to report to a United Nations Epidemic and Disaster Prevention officer named Abbas Nusretov. Nusretov issues a warning to the player to not distract the workers for his or her own safety, but also brings you to the UNEDP office, where he gives you your first mission. Overall, the protagonist is tasked with carrying out the search for any survivors from the MAEZ.
Stage One: Scavenger Hunt
The objective of the first mission is to locate any survivors that haven't perished from radiation sickness, and to bring them back to Bitung. You start by landing in Atomic Desolation Zone 900, formerly known as General Santos City. Once arriving in ADZ 900, you find yourself facing at massive ruins and dilapidated corpses. The difficult part is that there's no powerups for you to replenish your stamina, and have to rely on emergency rations to replenish it. By the time you reach your first objective, which is to arrive at what used to be General Santos City Hall, you see your first survivors. Three starving children emerge from underneath the ruins of ADZ 900 city hall and are begging you for food. You are stuck with an extremely difficult choice of giving half of your rations (which could be difficult for you if you lose more stamina without the rations) or to withhold them (thereby resulting in a mission failure). You opt to give half of your rations, which leads to the triggering of the timer from when you're in ADZ 900 city hall to your destination, which is your starting point. You have exactly 30 minutes to get out, or you'd lose all your stamina and fail your mission.
Stage Two: Cluefinder
Two weeks after events of Scavenger Hunt, you find yourself back in Bitung as Nusretov asks you to take an important parcel to the island of Palau, where one of his contacts is waiting. You don't know what the parcel is, and you're forbidden from opening it. You depart for Mongami, where Nusretov's contact is waiting. Once you arrive in Mongami, you search far and wide for the contact, but is nowhere to be seen. Suddenly, you're attacked by unknown figures as you barely managed to escape. Those unknown figures are after your parcel, but are not connected to Nusretov at all. This is the first mission where you need to learn how to shoot. The protagonist would acquire a discarded Howa Type 89 rifle that was stolen from a JSDF base in Kyushu, Japan. Just as you manage to escape from Mongami, a random civilian asks you if you know Nusretov. You are confronted with the choice of giving up a quarter of your emergency rations to the random civilian in exchange for information, or to withhold the rations, in which case you are stuck on the outskirts of Mongami until you agree to give a quarter of your rations. Once the necessary exchange is done, the random civilian takes you to Dabadoru, where Nusretov's contact is waiting. A woman emerges from one of the intact homes and asks you if Nusretov has sent you, to which you say yes. The woman receives the parcel, which turns out to be a radiation detector equipment (you will use the radiation detector equipment in the next mission), and congratulates you for a job well done. The woman introduces herself as Ashley Darlton, and she reveals that she used to work in the MAEZ when it was still intact. Now that a good chunk of the First World has been turned to radiated dust, it is unknown how long the world economy will recover, as hinted by a Second Great Depression.
Stage Three: Further Ruin
One month after the events of Cluefinder, Nusretov asks you to meet him in the city of Bandung. You arrive in Bandung and Nusretov congratulates you for accomplishing the mission during events of Cluefinder. He reveals to you that Darlton is assembling a team of special search and rescue teams that are experienced in working in radiated conditions, and asks you to join them. The next mission brings you to Atomic Desolation 731, formerly known as Gapan. The radiation detector equipment that you brought to Darlton is now going to be used to assess the radiation level of the city, and to determine if the soil would be suitable to grow sorghum and a special kind of rice developed from mutation breeding. Upon arriving in Atomic Desolation 731, Darlton notices a sudden rise in levels of white phosphorus from the charred buildings as you come across several burned corpses of civilians, as well as a burned tricycle. Three derelict jeepneys can be seen, as well as dying carabao by the roadside. The objective of this mission is to gather enough soil to assess the radiation level, and to return back to Bandung from Gapan. Unfortunately, just as your team is about to leave from an abandoned farm on the right side of what used to be the Pan-Maharlikan Highway, you're ambushed by another unknown group of bandits wearing a different colored radiation protection suits. Unfortunately, you and your team are taken to an underground safehouse in a neighborhood that used to be San Isidro. Both you and Darlton are asked by the bandit leader if you're affiliated with either a tycoon named Kinoshita or a mercenary named Charoensuk. When you refused to answer, the bandit leader threatens to mutilate Darlton until you agree to answer. You reveal your ties to Nusretov, and the bandit leader sighs in relief. As it turns out, the bandit leader reveals that the tycoon named Kinoshita and the mercenary Charoensuk have teamed up to assess the MAEZ for a new kind of business opportunity, despite UN Resolution 1898 stating that the MAEZ is completely unsafe for human resettlement and economic production until the radiation levels are brought down. Furthermore, the bandit leader also reveals his past as an officer of the now-defunct Philippine Marines and has appointed himself the acting leader of over 500 survivors that are struggling. Your mission ends with the bandit leader escorting your team all the way to Atomic Desolation 002, or what used to be Pasay City, for a trip back to Bandung.
Stage Four: Warlord
One and a half month after events of Further Ruin, you and Darlton are being briefed by Nusretov about the results of the soil extracted back in Atomic Desolation 731. He brings out the bad news that the radiation level is still too high, and that agricultural production won't resume in the MAEZ until the year 2294. However, when Darlton brings the news of their meeting with the bandit leader and his revelation that Kinoshita and Charoensuk are teaming up to violate UN Resolution 1898, Nusretov has a minor breakdown. It is revealed that Nusretov had a nasty run in with Charoensuk during the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict where he fought as a part of the Azeri Army against Charoensuk, who was a UN peacekeeper working as a part of the United Nations Karabakh Conflict Prevention Force. Charoensuk had been guilty of leading a UN peacekeeping force to the village of Jabrayil, where they massacred over 800 Azeri civilians on the pretext of being fired upon by unknown assailants. Going back to the mission briefing, you are now tasked with going to Bangkok with Darlton to find out the information on Charoensuk's whereabouts. Once inside Bangkok, you and Darlton are tasked with locating another one of Nusretov's contacts that is now working for a Turkish Mafia faction based on the outskirts of the Thai capital. After being confronted by armed gunmen, you and Darlton are forced to use your weapons to kill the gunmen. Upon arriving at Samut Sakhon, a large bearded man approaches you if Nusretov sent you and Darlton to him, to which you answered. The Turkish Mafiosi, whose name is Bayram Altug, has given you and Darlton a mission: to find and capture one of Charoensuk's many lovers that he has taken in the city named Hripsime. Upon leaving Samut Sakhon, you and Darlton arrive back in Bangkok, armed with information on the number of establishments that Charoensuk loves to go. After multiple searches, you come across a woman who looked grumpy. After exchanging a quarter of your emergency rations to the grumpy woman, she tells you about where Charoensuk's favorite lover works. She tells you to travel to Pathum Thani, and to search for a brothel there. You and Darlton arrive in Pathum Thani, only to be confronted by Charoensuk himself, who initiates a gun battle with you. Luckily, you and Darlton avoid getting shot, but out of the brothel building, emerges not only the target (Hripsime), but her 7 year old daughter Anush. However, just as you and Darlton are about to retrieve the target, both Hripsime and Anush are suddenly shot dead, and Charoensuk points the gun at you, until you told him that you both were sent by Altug. The mission is considered only complete after you agree with Charoensuk's request to kill Bayram as a part of his revenge.
Stage Five: Revenge
Three hours after the events of Warlord, you and Darlton temporarily join Charoensuk in hunting down Bayram. As the mission continues, Charoensuk is stunned and horrified that you both were sent by Nusretov to find Bayram and he reveals his side of the story. Apparently when his peacekeeping unit was being shot at, he gave the order to fire at a building that was suspected of harboring Armenian guerrillas. As it turned out, Jabrayil had been attacked by the Azeri Army as it wanted to capture such a town that was being controlled by Armenian rebel forces. Charoensuk managed to save the life of Hripsime from being used as a comfort woman by the Azeri forces by taking her back to a UN base in Khankendi, before bribing another Thai soldier to bring her Thai immigration papers that classified Hripsime as his wife. By the time you arrive back in Samut Sakhon, you, Darlton, and Charoensuk confront Bayram and a number of Turkish Mafiosi members. After killing Bayram, but not before wounding Darlton, you would head back to Bandung, but Charoensuk insisted on taking care of Darlton back in Bangkok. Before leaving Bangkok, Charoensuk warns the protagonist to be wary of Nusretov.
Stage Six: Moneymaker
A day after the events of Revenge, you are back in Bandung. Nusretov gives you a briefing on an upcoming gala dinner in the Japanese town of Oarai, where Kinoshita is rumored to host the event. You are tasked with finding (but not confronting) Kinoshita, as the tycoon is now aware of your ties to Nusretov. This time, you are on your own, but you're given around 900,000 Japanese yen to use for certain side missions while in Oarai. Upon arriving in Oarai, you are ambushed by Yakuza mercenaries tipped off by Bayram's Japanese associates. Once you escape to Hitachinaka, you nurse your own wounds and here is when you start your side missions. Though completely unrelated to the mission at hand, it is also a good way to keep a low profile until the fundraising event begins. The first side mission involves helping an elderly couple with transporting their groceries from a supermarket to their home, while the second side mission involves buying a bento lunch for a guy who was recently dumped by his girlfriend. The third side mission becomes the protagonist's chance of getting a ticket to Kinoshita's fundraising event, but you come under another name, as using your real name would alert Kinoshita to unwanted attention. The third side mission involves helping a truck driver move furniture from Itsukushima to Oarai, and the driver reveals that he could not attend the fundraising event due to multiple commitments. He hands you the ticket in exchange for 400,000 yen, and you spend the remaining 100,000 yen on formal dress. You finally attend the event, though disguised as a blind man in need of assistance. Once you are seated far away from where Kinoshita will sit, you watch as Kinoshita reveals that he's fundraising money for a project he calls the Mahoroba Project. Just as you were about to leave your seat for the bathroom, three security men grab you and are dragged into an office, where Kinoshita is waiting. Unfortunately for the protagonist, Kinoshita knew that someone with ties to Nusretov is waiting to assassinate him, but as he looks at you, he frowns. He also reveals his ties to Charoensuk and gives the protagonist the same warning that he heard back in Thailand.
Stage Seven: Eavesdrop
Two months after the events of Revenge, the protagonist isn't called in for additional briefings other than a series of two side missions. The first side mission in Bandung involves the transportation of bags of rice from the city to Jakarta. The second side mission however, triggers the plot of Eavesdrop. The protagonist accidentally overhears Nusretov in a conversation with an unknown person, and was about to sneak away to his second side mission (which happens to involve driving a tourist that has recently arrived from Erzurum to Bandung) when he is ambushed by UN peacekeepers. Unfortunately, he fails to escape and is captured and brought before Nusretov, who accuses him of eavesdropping on an important conversation and reprimands him for it. Just as he is about to be executed, the UN peacekeepers are ambushed by mercenaries loyal to Charoensuk. You managed to break free from captivity and are reunited with both Charoensuk and Darlton, who managed to recover from her gunshot wounds. Your major mission objective in this case is to escape from Nusretov's peacekeepers and join the rest of the mercenaries gathering in Surabaya. Unfortunately, the UN has deployed a different kind of peacekeeping unit called the Pacifier Division, which is basically an overglorified Spec-Ops team tasked with killing anyone who attacks UN peacekeepers. You and your team managed to arrive in Surabaya, but Darlton is killed when a Pacifier shoots her in the head. The protagonist has also been wounded by a grenade thrown by another Pacifier, before Charoensuk shoots the Pacifier. You and Charoensuk eventually leave Surabaya and make your way to Oarai.
Stage Eight: Revelation
Two weeks after the events of Eavesdrop, the protagonist is recovering from his or her wounds inside a hospital in Oarai. You and Charoensuk are summoned by Kinoshita to a meeting in front of the Museum of Bakumatsu and Meiji History. There, Kinoshita reveals his real motives for launching the Mahoroba Project. During his time in the former Philippines (now the Maharlikan Atomic Exclusion Zone), Kinoshita had been involved in the humanitarian missions that tended to Filipino refugees. He also fell in love with a Filipino woman and was about to marry her when she and her family were killed in the bomb blast during another Chinese PLAAF bombing run. Upon his return to Japan, Kinoshita opted to help run the family business (which happened to be an export/import business that dealt with foodstuffs shipping to SE Asia and North America), but his family business boomed by the sudden demand for Japanese canned fish, as Japanese law forbade the export of its own rice to other nations. Viewing the suffering of the Filipino people as something tragic, and with China unleashing its nuclear revenge on the Philippines that led to nuclear armageddon (Kinoshita's own relatives perished in the atomic bombing of Nagasaki), Kinoshita knew that he had to retool his family business with the inclusion of philantrophy on the side as well. Moreover, Kinoshita first met Charoensuk while the latter was recovering in Itsukushima while being on the run from former Azeri soldiers turned mercenaries. Charoensuk also reveals that it was Nusretov who shot at the UN peacekeeping unit that Charoensuk was in, when they launched the attack on Jabrayil. The only major mission objective in this scenario would be to help Kinoshita with important errands, such as helping him deliver food to supermarkets in Oarai and Fukushima. Just before the protagonist is about to return home, Kinoshita also warns you that certain elements within the UN have a vested interest in keeping the radiation level of the Maharlikan Atomic Exclusion Zone at an extremely high level to not only discourage human resettlement, but as an object lesson to any Third World country that dared to rise up against its national betters. The Mahoroba Project is in actuality Japan's plans to rejuvenate the MAEZ with survivors of the nuclear armageddon and bring in desperate people that are also suffering from nuclear radiation.
Stage Nine: Endgame
Three days after the events of Revelation, you are now a part of Charoensuk's mercenary army. Joining the mercenary unit is surprisingly enough, the bandit leader from Atomic Desolation 731 when you and your mercenary unit arrive back in said place inside the MAEZ. By this time, Nusretov is warned by Chinese intelligence of the presence of mercenaries in the MAEZ, violating UN Resolution 1898, and the UN is now authorized to deploy all of its Pacificer Divisions into the zone. This time around, you're now armed with a Bushmaster M17S bullpup rifle and several grenades. This is probably one of the most difficult missions, as you are functioning without your emergency rations and have to play smart with how you manage your stamina. The first phase of this mission is to set up firing positions around an abandoned farmhouse across from an irrigation canal. It is expected that the Pacifier Division will travel north to Atomic Desolation 731 from Atomic Desolation 002. Your objective is to delay the Pacifier Division long enough to retreat into the second line of defense, which will be located inside Atomic Desolation 733, or what was once known as Cabanatuan City. There, the second phase will start with slowing down the Pacifier Division's advance into said Desolation. Third phase of this mission is to lure the Pacifier Division into the dense jungles of what is once the border between Nueva Ecija and Nueva Vizcaya. The main purpose is to slow down the Pacifier Division, until you reach the final phase, which will be the fortress in Atomic Desolation 862, which was once known as Baguio City. The fortress in the Cordillera Mountains would be where the last confrontation will begin, and while the protagonist will continue to fight until Nusretov himself arrives. You and Nusretov engage in hand to hand combat, and just as you're about to die, the ground suddenly explodes as Charoensuk's other mercenary units ambush them and you succeed in killing Nusretov.
End Stage: Aftermath
One month after events of Endgame, you are now resting in Bangkok, inside one of the many establishments frequented by Charoensuk. You come face to face with a local woman who steps outside a Buddhist temple and greets you with a hug. She reveals herself as Charoensuk's younger sister and has told the protagonist that her brother and Kinoshita are in Japan to help launch a campaign for Japan, Thailand, and Indonesia to leave the United Nations, as it has revealed itself to be corrupt and is complicit in maintaining the suffering of the depopulated survivors of the MAEZ. The full scope of the Mahoroba Project is now revealed: Indonesia will take the Atomic Desolation areas that once constituted the Autonomous Province of Muslim Mindanao, while Thailand will take the Atomic Desolation areas that once constituted the province of General Santos, and Japan will take the rest, though in a surprise move, Vietnam will join in and take the Atomic Desolation areas that once consisted of the province of Bataan.
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BAGATSING-LED KBL RALLY TURNED VIOLENT AS THREE RIVAL FACTIONS ENGAGE IN FIGHTS AMIDST PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN Manila Times September 23, 2019
(San Juan, MANILA PREFECTURE) - Only one day after the anniversary of Martial Law, Raymond Bagatsing's Kilusang Bagong Lipunan party has been at the center of an intense controversy when opponents of the former Marcos regime had clashed with KBL supporters over the discussion related to the legacy of the late Ferdinand Marcos. The brawl turned ugly when supporters of the late Artemio Tadiar had joined in, starting with their provocations aimed at both factions, followed by yelling fascist chants in support of Nicanor Faeldon, Elly Pamatong, and Larry Gadon. The brawl had gone so wild that riot police were called in to suppress the brawl, but not before Bagatsing personally called for those involved in the brawls to leave the campaign grounds. Since taking over as the leader of the revamped Kilusang Bagong Lipunan, Bagatsing has reformed the movement to purge itself of the controversial aspects of the Marcos legacy. However, he has come under attack by both opponents of the former Marcos regime, and unsurprisingly enough, the neo-fascists who make up the supporters of the former Tadiar military dictatorship. Even more interestingly enough, the supporters of the late Artemio Tadiar had decided to ditch the traditional bayong baskets that covered their faces for balaclavas and ski masks, as they felt that visibility was more important than appearances. Within the Filipino right-wing movement however, division over the legacies of two of the Philippines's most notorious figures had been the source of every brawl, with the Tadiar supporters flying the Tadiar-era estelada style Philippine flag.
"We will never tolerate such atrocious behavior displayed by those thugs that glorified a military dictator that presided over one of the worst military dictatorships in the history of the Philippines. In fact, their behavior is exactly why I'm running on a campaign platform of thoroughly purging the Philippine military of the Tadiar-era traditions that was introduced with the help of both the Pinochet and Corbalan regimes," says Bagatsing, during that infamous rally that ended in the brawl. "It is also a sign of great disrespect when we have the very same thugs flying not only that disgusting rag they call a flag, but they're also flying the Rising Sun banners that is associated with the Japanese occupation of our country!"
In recent weeks, a disturbing trend has emerged when pro-Tadiar supporters began to scribble the letter K on every section of the city of Manila, and the district of San Juan. Moreover, pro-Tadiar supporters have also been noted to have received numerous financial aid from various donors originated in Chile, Thailand, Japan, Indonesia, and Mexico. The extremism has gotten worse since the 10th anniversary of the death of Artemio Tadiar that there were constant talks of relocating his coffin from the Libingan ng mga Bayani to a private cemetery somewhere in La Union, but it has so far been stalled. Currently, the tomb of Artemio Tadiar is covered by a small arch that etched out his name, his date of birth and his date of death. It has been a place of pilgrimage for Filipino ultranationalists and foreign supporters of the Tadiar regime. So far, not even Bagatsing has made a decision on what to do with the controversial tomb resting in the Libingan ng mga Bayani.
"Much like the Valley of the Fallen in Spain, we have our own version in the Libingan ng mga Bayani, and it is a travesty that Artemio Tadiar, along with many other soldiers that died fighting for his regime, are buried there. Unfortunately, it has also become a kind of gathering place for such rabid dogs who supported a man that has consorted with the worst international criminals in the world," says incumbent President Loren Legarda, during a speech in the Bayanihan. "However, there were various other dictators that paid homage to Tadiar when his funeral ceremony was conducted here."
The funeral of Artemio Tadiar was noteworthy in that various other former dictators who would eventually be deposed from their positions a few years after Tadiar's death had been present in that ceremony. Chile's Alvaro Corbalan attended Tadiar's funeral ceremony, as well as Japanese Prime Minister Masashi Nakano (shortly before his resignation in 2009 due to the Tarrazano-Sumitomo Scandal in which Delfin Lorenzana had given credible information to Chinese and Russian intelligence of Japan's violation of its weapons export laws after he announced his defection to Russian border guards in the town of Khasan while deserting his position inside North Korea, especially the export of the Sumitomo Type 62 and Type 74 machine guns to the Philippine military), Mexican dictator Mario Chaparro, and Thai Prime Minister Sonthi Boonyaratglin (who resigned in 2008 after being in power only as a caretaker, following the impeachment of Banyat Bantadtan on charges of accepting bribes from various Chinese and Russian corporations in regards to a planned construction of a nuclear power plant in Chiang Mai that was ultimately canceled).
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"The Battle of Abadan had been a delaying action on part of the Iranian military as General Ali Shahbazi had began to exert more of his control into the war effort, much to the annoyance of the clerics. However, his decision to allow the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps to engagge the Iraqi and MEK forces in protracted guerrilla warfare had opened the doors for various future IRGC commanders, many of whom had began their baptism of fire in the town of Abadan by April 30th, 1988. Though the Battle of Abadan would eventually result in the Iraqi-MEK victory, Shahbazi knew what he was doing. As he predicted, the gradual withdrawal of Iranian forces from various border towns in western Iran had enticed Saddam to gradually push his own forces deeper into Iranian territory. The unfamiliarity of the Iraqi forces with the mountainous terrain had been exploited by the Iranians, whom with the assistance of anti-Saddam Kurdish rebel forces, had given advice on where to set up ambushes in the mountain ranges of the Zagros Mountains. By the time the combined Iraqi-MEK forces had arrived at the base of the Zagros Mountains, Shahbazi would launch his counter-offensive, aiming first at the MEK forces that were stationed on the outskirts of Sabur, just southwest of Khorramabad. Om May 9th, 1988, the first wave of IRGC forces had ambushed the MEK forces in Sabur, leading to a three day battle that was brutal and protracted as the Iranian offensives into Iraq. Because the MEK guerrillas knew that they expected no mercy from the IRGC, they fought to the death in Sabur, resulting in not only their defeat, but over 96% of the MEK forces that fought in Sabur were eliminated. Between the battle of Sabur and the Iranian thrust into Kuhdasht on May 12th, other Iranian forces were also engaging the MEK troops in battle. Additionally, the Iraqi conscripts that were sent to western Iran had began to surrender in hundreds as their ammunition had run out, and Iranian clerican propaganda had began to sap morale in the average Iraqi soldier. Approximately 900 Iraqi Shia conscripts would mutiny against their Sunni officers while advancing into Dezful and defect to the IRGC on May 17th. Realizing that his own forces would be surrounded in multiple directions, Saddam gave orders for a tactical withdrawal of all Iraqi and MEK forces into Poldokhtar. However, the MEK would suffer a significant loss with the Iranian missile strike launched by an Oghab ballistic missile had struck Camp Ashraf, killing Massoud Rajavi and much of his staff officers inside on June 3rd, 1988. Iranian intelligence would also give information to Iraqi Shia and Kurdish rebel forces on the location of known MEK positions within Iraq, allowing them to strike those bases while Iranian forces are steadily routing Iraqi troops and MEK guerrillas from inside Iranian territory. It was not until July of 1988 that the last Iraqi holdout in Iran had been cleared as rumors of a military coup against Saddam had been circulated, though proven to be false. Additionally, the Iranian Navy would play a greater role in the final months of the Iran-Iraq War, with the Iranian Navy's assistance in a second Iranian amphibious landing at Um Qasr on August 4th, which was spearheaded by both regular Iranian Army and IRGC troops. Unlike the earlier attempts to capture Um Qasr, this time around they were aided by Iraqi Shia rebel forces that either mutinied or deserted their posts, leading to the speedy capture of the only Iraqi port in the Persian Gulf. With Um Qasr and after August 9th, Al-Faw, under Iranian control, the path to Basra laid open once again. However, an additional Iranian force led by Mohammad Salimi would launch an invasion of Iraqi Kurdistan on August 12th, forcing Saddam to divert what was left of his own forces from the Basra theater. Surprisingly enough, it was the Spanish government that decided to donate much of its older M47 and M48 Patton tanks to Iran, along with the necessary amount of ammunition. Spain's reason for sending much needed assistance to Iran was primarily economical and military in nature: they were in the process of replacing their fleet of both the M60A1 and the AMX-30E with a brand new tank prototype that the Spaniards were developing with then-West Germany. Though the Lince project would eventually fall apart due to internal factors surrounding the company responsible for developing the Lince, it forced Spain to pay attention to their need to modernize and at the same time, reduce the number of their tanks in the arsenal. By donating much of their older equipment to Iran, Spain had also saved themselves from paying the necessary maintenance fees on the older tanks. In return, the Shahbazi led junta would sign an economic agreement with the government of Spanish Prime Minister Felipe Gonzalez, in which the Spanish government would help Iran rebuild its economy, in return for Iranian shipment of oil and other natural resources to Spain. Though this agreement was unpopular with the clerics, Shahbazi prioritized the economic stabilization of the Iranian state as a prerequisite for future attraction of foreign capital into its shattered economy. The presence of the Spanish donated equipment would eventually play a key role in Iran's final offensive against Saddam's forces that would culminate in the September 2-October 20 Battle for Baghdad, in which the shattered remnants of the Iraqi Army would face off against the growing number of not only Iranian soldiers, but Iraqi rebel forces that are now fighting on Iran's side. As a result of the Iranian victory, Saddam Hussein had opted to shoot himself, rather than to let himself be captured by the Iranian forces. The formal surrender of the Iraqi forces was conducted by Salah Aboud Mahmoud inside the shattered remains of Camp Ashraf, with Iranian Generals Ataollah Salehi, Ali Sayad Shirazi, and Qasem-Ali Zahirnejad. The terms of the Camp Ashraf Ceasefire Agreement was less harsh than feared, but dreadful nonetheless. The areas from the Tigris River to the Iranian border would be demilitarized, while the Iraqi Navy would be disbanded and much of its fleet would be incorporated into the Iranian Navy. Iraq is also forbidden from stationing troops in the Tigris DMZ, though as a gesture of mercy, Iranian troops would also be forbidden from stationing troops in the same area as well. However, the Tigris DMZ would only be a temporary measure, until a new Iraqi government would be created. All of the Ba'athist Party personnel would be banned from participating in the new Iraqi government, unless they agreed to cut ties to the Ba'athists. Most importantly, Iraq is to give not only the Kurds some degree of autonomy, but to award the Assyrian minority its own autonomous homeland. Iraq in this case would be a federal republic in name only, as both autonomous entities are not bothering to hide their desire for independence. Though Iran had practically won a Phyrric victory over Iraq in the Iran-Iraq War, much of the Iranian economy was in shambles, and had to rely on Shahbazi's stern guidance regarding stabilization of its economy. From 1990 onwards, Shahbazi would preside over Iran's economic recovery with the integration of the refugees that had fled from the Middle Eastern warzones that were unable to return to their homelands, or in the case of the Filipino refugees that were unable to return to their homeland, now under Artemio Tadiar's iron grip control, were not able to flee to other nations in tme." From 'Iran From Khomeini to Shahbazi', released by PressTV Documentaries on August 23rd, 2017.
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An Oddity Among the Exiled: The Tale of a Different Exile by Time Magazine released on November 30, 2019
To any observer, 48 year old Pancho Mamaclay is just your typical Filipino exile that has settled in Armenia after fleeing from his hometown of Sarrat in Ilocos Norte, which was the birthplace of both the late Ferdinand Marcos and one of the major military figures of the Filipino Civil War, the notorious General Fabian Ver. Unlike the other refugees that have decided on settling in Armenia, Pancho is not your typical Filipino exile. Too young to join the military during the Filipino Civil War (Pancho was only 15 at that time), his parents had decided to bring him to Syria where they temporarily resided as guest workers before their work visa expired and they had a difficult choice of either returning to their burning homeland, or to try their luck at a neighboring country where they could obtain an exit visa and travel elsewhere. Suddenly, the Mamaclay family was surprised to hear that they've been qualified for a temporary work visa in Iraq, where his father would obtain a job in the reconstruction and repairs in the city of Mosul and his mother would work at a Mosul hotel, cleaning hotel rooms and greeting guests. By Filipino standards, the salaries that Mamaclay's parents are quite modest. Paid in Iraqi currency, it was literally like being paid in solid gold for a family whose savings back in the Philippines are being wiped out due to the Filipino Civil War.
"I distinctly remember my mom telling me all about how her siblings were forced to flee from Manila when EDSA Uno erupted. Given that all the members of my family had been ardent supporters of the late Ferdinand Marcos, it was understandable that we wouldn't be safe in a Philippines managed by that little housewife from Paniqui," Mamaclay explained to us while displaying a photo of one of his aunts with one of the famed Maids from Malacanang, Yaya Biday. "She personally knew the three maids that took care of the Marcos family. My mother was a bit jealous that Yaya Biday got the coveted job of taking care of our president and his family."
When asked about the events of EDSA Uno, Mamaclay grimaced. It was not a memorable experience for him, despite him and his family being abroad when EDSA Uno erupted.
"My father was swearing up and down when we heard the news of the revolution in Manila. However, we were not prepared for what was about to happen," Mamaclay explained as he showed us an old newspaper article clip from 1986 that showed the future military dictator Artemio Tadiar leading a group of soldiers into Ortigas Avenue. "Until now, we never knew who Artemio Tadiar was. To think that he's responsible for shooting those innocent people on Ortigas Avenue. We all hated him for undermining the Marcos government with that idiotic action."
Fearing that a civil war was imminent, Mamaclay's father made plans to return to the Philippines to join the pro-Marcos paramilitary forces that was being organized in his hometown of Sarrat, but was dissuaded by another Filipino foreign worker, also a Marcos loyalist.
"My father had a friend whom we nicknamed Dodong, because he was younger than my father. Dodong discouraged him from returning, insisting that we have to keep the remittances flowing for the war effort," Mamaclay said as he showed us another photo, this time of his father and the man they called Dodong. "General Fabian Ver had advised those loyalists who are working overseas to remain in their jobs, because the foreign currency was needed to help keep Macoy in power. However, the Aquino government had confiscated all of the foreign currency that flowed into the Philippines from overseas."
The Aquino government's desperate plea for assistance had been one of the major factors in their abysmal performances during the Filipino Civil War, and coupled with President Aquino's own political inexperience, her weakness was ruthlessly exploited by both former President Marcos and then-Brigadier General Tadiar.
"We were all in agreement that whatever happens, we have to play a part in making sure that Macoy wins the civil war. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case," Mamaclay explained. "The conflict between Iraq and Iran made it impossible to earn any more money, and as we found out to our shock, the Iraqi government is steadily losing the war to the Iranians."
The constant bombing campaigns launched by both Iraq and Iran had virtually made the Mamaclay family's life a bit more difficult, especially if either one of the parents ended up killed in the bombing campaign. To Pancho, his fear was realized when one of the Iraqi supervisors came to him with tears in his eyes.
"My boss Qasim cried to me and told me the terrible news." Mamaclay struggles to keep his eyes from watering as he tried hard to suppress the memory of that fateful tragedy. "I learned that my father was killed in an airstrike launched by the Iranians. I grew angry and cried so hard that I could barely eat at all. My mother would die in a similar bombing raid a few days later."
When he realized that he would not be able to stay in Iraq, due to the worsening situation between Iraq and Iran, and the civil war that is happening in the Philippines, Mamaclay had to leave Mosul and travel elsewhere. Unfortunately, he could not return to Syria due to a lack of qualifications needed to obtain a work visa of his own. Luckily, Dodong came to him with a surprising news.
"Dodong told me that we could travel to either Jordan or Turkey for additional work, but unfortunately we weren't able to qualify for a work visa in Jordan, and because we were slowly running out of money, we were forced to return to the Philippines and enlist in one of the civilian assistance groups that are helping the military with transporting ammunition and supplies," said Mamaclay as he gave each of us a cup of strong dark coffee and Armenian nutmeg cake. "However, when President Aquino and Brigadier General Tadiar had won the civil war, we knew that it wouldn't be safe for us to remain in the Philippines."
Unfortunately for Mamaclay, Artemio Tadiar's seizure of power in the 1989 EDSA Revolution would change his life for the worse. Additionally, because of his strong support for the former Marcos regime, Mamaclay would be forced to join a Philippine military penal reformatory battalion that is tasked with mine clearance and other dangerous jobs that cannot be performed by the more valuable soldiers in the regular military. To prove his point, Mamaclay showed us the part of his arm that was wounded by a shrapnel embedded in his arm before a minor surgery resulted in the removal of the shrapnel.
"Brigadier General Tadiar didn't trust the soldiers who served for former President Marcos, and the people of Ilocos Norte never forgave Tadiar for causing that massacre. Macoy simply wanted to end the revolution without bloodshed, but now that Tadiar has caused a massacre, he became more comfortable with the thought of exterminating his enemies," Mamaclay said in disgust. "Luckily, the Tadiar junta was given a golden opportunity to present the new Philippines as a willing partner with the so-called international community."
Mamaclay's tenure as a penal reformatory soldier would take him to an unlikely location: the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh, as a part of the United Nations Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict Prevention force. His job remains the same though: clearing landmines and other booby traps that were laid by both Azeri and Armenian forces. It was not long before Mamaclay would be involved in one of the few major scandals to rock the Tadiar regime: the AWOL Scandal.
"I befriended Bryan Galang and four of his friends while waiting for our meal rations while stationed in Turapat, not far from Zangilan. We kept waiting for almost five hours for our food, and when the truck finally arrived with the expected amount of MREs, we were stunned to see that the MREs were gone." Mamaclay laughed lightly. "That was when Bryan decided to find a local home to see if anyone would be willing to feed us. I quickly joined in as well."
Unlike Bryan Galang and his friends who were eventually caught and arrested for going AWOL when they were found eating inside three homes inhabited by the Azeri families, Mamaclay was eating with an Armenian family. However, the desperate need for food was started with Sergeant Galang's decision to sell his useless M-16 rifle to a Turkish peacekeeper that was attached to UNAACP for cash.
"I had this rifle that I managed to obtain from a dead Azeri soldier killed in an ambush, which was a useful AKM. Sergeant Galang told me to give the rifle to him before I searched for a home and family that was willing to feed me, which I did. That was when I met my future wife," Mamaclay said as his Armenian wife shook hands with us. "Hasmig was only two years younger than I was when we first met, and her father initially wanted to throw me out, until I offered over $50 US dollars for food. He looked at the money, and told me to put it away. I didn't realize that he was going to feed me in exchange for my help in making sure that his family was safe. This was when I decided to desert the Philippine Army that has treated me badly."
When the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict eventually ended in 1995 with the Goble-Bessmertknykh Plan, which expanded on the failed Grozny Proposal made when Soviet Premier Anatoly Lukyanov was in power, Mamaclay and the Armenian family that he is protecting eventually left Zangilan for the town of Abovyan. There, Mamaclay would eventually be processed as a political refugee and allowed a permanent residency visa on condition that he obtain a job and acquire a college education. Mamaclay would eventually be hired by Kotayk Brewery for a packer position, before being sponsored by his employer for additional training in how to become a beer brewer.
"My dad was laughing loudly when Pancho told him that his boss was going to send him to a school to learn how to brew beer. Luckily, the boss of Kotayk Brewery had connections to both Monte Melkonian and Gagik Tsarukyan, so they decided to teach Pancho how to brew beer as an apprentice," Hasmig told us. "Moreover, since he could barely speak any Armenian and we didn't speak any word of English, we first had to teach him how to speak Armenian, and then Russian. You could get anywhere in Armenia with Russian, though younger generations felt that we shouldn't just restrict ourselves with Russian. In return, Pancho taught us how to speak his native Ilocano language and the Tagalog language."
For several years, Mamaclay and Hasmig had lived a peaceful life with her own family. However, like many other Filipinos in exile, Mamaclay would eventually find out that the remainder of his famiy had tragically died in one of the Tadiar regime's most notorious concentration camps. By sheer luck, Pancho would run into Dodong in Yerevan on that fateful morning in May of 1997.
"Dodong told me, albeit hesitantly, that he received news from an inmate that successfully escaped from Polillo Island that there was an attempted prison break. He managed to flee from that labor camp, but the surviving members of my family were shot while trying to escape. In addition, those three maids that took care of the Marcos family were also executed for the same charge as well," Mamaclay said to us. He held Hasmig's hand tightly as he tried not to cry. "I was shocked at how he managed to survive Tadiar's dogs while making his way here in Armenia. I thought that there was no way he could have eluded the guards."
As it turned out, Dodong had managed to land in the southern part of Taiwan, not far from where Taiwanese fishermen had rescued three former Philippine Army deserters that were also on the run from the Tadiar regime. By chance, Dodong would have a fateful meeting with known deserter Gerald 'Jepoy' Gacutan. Unfortunately, the mutual respect was absent from both men, as Sergeant Gacutan had fought in the Filipino Civil War on the side of former President Corazon Aquino.
"Pancho and I were glued on the television when news of Sergeant Gacutan's tale of escape was being heard on international media. It was funny that Taiwanese fishermen would save their lives, and that Dodong would have an encounter with those men as well," Hasmig told us as we all sipped Turkish coffee. "Fortunately for Dodong, he was successful in applying for a visa to travel to Kazakhstan, as he did not want to return back home and there was no future for him in the Middle East."
The Kazakh government iin 1997 had just come out of the Second Russian Civil War relatively intact, though problems related to Islamic fundamentalism had persisted in the wider Central Asian region. Due to its close proximity to Russia, Kazakhstan was given aid in expelling Al Qaeda's agents in the region, in exchange for Kazakhstan backing Russia in diplomatic overtures. In addition, the end of that civil war in the former Soviet Union allowed Dodong to visit Armenia in 1997, only to give the dreaded news to Mamaclay.
"I was devastated to learn about what happened to my relatives, especially my aunt and uncle who lived in Samtoy. I truly felt like an orphan at this point," Mamaclay said as he finished eating the nutmeg cake. "Before he died in 1999 from complications related to his ordeal while being on the run, Dodong advised me that when Tadiar eventually steps down, I have to return back to the Philippines. However, I didn't listen to him because I've already built a new life here in Armenia. Why would I want to go back and experience what he suffered?"
Since learning about the fate of his own family in 1997, Mamaclay had opted to keep a low profile while working through his job within Kotayk Brewery. Such decision had proven to be the correct measure, and he wasn't really affected by the other events that unfolded in the wider Asia-Pacific region, even after the 1998 Shanghai Oriental Pearl and Radio Tower terrorist attack. Nor was he affected by the equally tragic events unfolding in Europe as well, until the news of Cirilito Sobejana's defection to Russia had reached major news outlets around the world. Mamaclay and Hasmig were enjoying their vacation in the Russian city of Rostov-on-the-Don when Sobejana had announced his defection.
"We saw three Russian border guards escort one of the defecting generals who was fed up with Artemio Tadiar from a van to the local headquarters of the Russian KGB. When this lieutenant named Katchikov had complained to a bystander that the defector doesn't speak any Russian at all, but either English or some language that he's never heard of, that was when he noticed me," Mamaclay chuckled. "He asked me if he knows this big shot general that came under their custody, and just as when I was about to say no, I saw him."
Mamaclay's meeting with Cirilito Sobejana in Rostov-on-the-Don had been extremely awkward, as he was technically an army deserter. However, Sobejana understood why he chose to desert his position.
"General Sobejana understood too well that many of the Filipino soldiers serving in the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region had not been fed well, or even paid on time. When he saw me for the first time, he asked me if I served in the penal battalions, as he was briefed on a number of people that were forced to serve in penal reformatory units for being on the opposite side of Artemio Tadiar. I told him that my family had been supporters of the late Ferdinand Marcos, but he agreed to allow me to work as an interpreter for both him and the Russian border guards, now that I've managed to speak better Russian, but not too better," Mamaclay jokes. He and Hasmig showed us various photos of their time together in the Russian Black Sea city, before giving us a photo of them posing close to the disputed area of Eastern Ukraine that was taken over by pro-Russian rebels called the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog People's Republic. "It was nerve racking, because none of the Russian border guards, or even Russian KGB agents, can speak Tagalog."
Before returning to Armenia, Mamaclay reveals the final conversation that he had with General Sobejana.
"General Sobejana asked me if I was willing to return to the Philippines when Tadiar would leave office. I told him that under no circumstances that I would return. There's far too many painful memories of my time in the Philippines, and even then, there are a growing number of young Filipinos who looked up to Tadiar. They wouldn't take too kindly to a KBLista in their presence."
Between 1999 and 2009, Mamaclay and Hasmig would eventually fall in love with each other. They married in 2003, amidst the Second Korean War. Their first child was born a year later, a daughter named Gayane. Though Mamaclay had opted to keep his surname, his children would bear the name Soghomonyan-Mamaclay, something that Mamaclay's father-in-law had approved of. A son would be born in 2006, which Mamaclay would name Levon, after his own father Leon Mamaclay. Even as Pancho Mamaclay's new family would steadily grow, an unexpected ray of hope had shone on that fateful morning of May 27, 2007.
"My father called me in to the living room and told me to watch something rather interesting. From a segment of Russia Today, I saw a newsclip presented by Margaret Simonyan that showed a Filipino news anchor from the Banahaw Broadcasting Corporation in tears as he announced the death of Tadiar. I laughed lightly, because now I am expecting that a new era of democracy would arrive in the Philippines," Mamaclay said, but he soon shook his head. "I turned out to be wrong. Hector Tarrazona became the new junta chief, but promised to gradually steer the Philippines from military rule to civilian rule in two years."
Fast forward to 2011, the newly reformed Kilusang Bagong Lipunan, first under Vetallano Acosta, and then Raymond Bagatsing when he took over in 2014 after Vetallano Acosta was forced to resign from the party leadership in disgrace when photos of him emerged, posing with veterans of the notorious Bato Brigade and his constant praising of noted war criminal Bato de la Rosa. Batogate was the first post-junta scandal to break out in the Philippines, and it was this scandal that would propel Bagatsing into national spotlight. Watching the political drama unfold from their home in Abovyan, the new Soghomonyan-Mamaclay clan was also not immune to Armenia's political intrigues as well.
"My father was a huge supporter of Monte Melkonian, and it was precisely thanks to him that Pancho was able to settle down and become a beer brewer. He had the backing of Gagik Tsarukyan for the position as party leader of the Soil and Steel Party, a breakaway faction of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation that emerged due to disagreements between Melkonian and the party leader at that time (in 2007, it was Armen Rustamyan) over party policy. Rustamyan's party policy at that time was to deregulate several sectors of the Armenian economy, especially in areas of consumer goods production. Melkonian would eventually be more influenced by both the Duginite and Diomidean strands of Eurasianism, but would form his own Eurasianist viewpoint," explains Hasmig. She points to the placard that her father made that writes 'Soil and Steel for a Better Armenia'. "Melkonian was eager to become President of Armenia, but Mamaclay was a bit fearful of Melkonian's rhetoric. Still, my husband was not one to bite the hand that fed him, and so he gradually told Monte about the ideologies that was espoused by the previous President that his family supported."
Until the formation of the Korean Federal Republic, southern Korea had been one of the several bastions in the Asia-Pacific region, along with Iran, Kazakhstan, and India, that had hosted the Marcos loyalist wing of the Filipino political exile community. Since the rise of Huh Kyung-young and the National Revolutionary Syndicalist Party, Filipinos in southern Korea were too glad to return home. The Korean Filipino population, like the emerging tiny Armenian Filipino community residing in Armenia, have consisted of families that once supported the late Ferdinand Marcos, and considered the Filipinos that grew up under the Tadiar regime as poisoned mushrooms.
"When Hasmig and I took our kids to the Philippines for vacation in 2010, we were horrified at what we saw," Mamaclay explained as he vividly recalls one of the most troubling incidents to break out in the post-junta period. "President Grace Poe had lifted the ban on the influx of tourists from China, Hong Kong, and Macao, leading to them visiting the Philippines. One teenager screamed at a young Chinese kid whom he caught defecating on the street, but the family of the kid that defecated had slapped him. He responded by kicking the kid on the side, before grabbing a butterfly knife and stabbed the parents in the throat, followed by slitting the kid's throat. Levon threw up at the sight of the dead bodies, which only infuriated the hooligans."
The incident that occurred in Manila's Quirino Grand stand had resulted in the Chinese government ordering its citizens to leave the Philippines. In cities throughout China, anti-Filipino demonstrations broke out, with the radical hotheads calling for the nuclear genocide of the Philippines. Naturally, this rhetoric played into the hands of anti-Chinese Filipino ultranationalists, who called on President Poe to resume the war with China, and if possible, to invade China with the purpose of forcing the Chinese to 'dig their own graves'.
"The next day after the incident, we turned on the news to find out that a bus carrying the tourists coming from Hong Kong that was scheduled to arrive at Manila International Airport had been hijacked by veterans of the Berdugo Brigade," Mamaclay recalls. "We thought they were going to simply rob them of their money, but when Gayane and Levon heard the gunfire, they were screaming."
As it turns out, the Berdugo Brigade hijackers had taken the Hong Kong tourists hostage and were demanding only one thing only: that the Poe administration should rescind the order to send another former war criminal and veteran of the Berdugo Brigade Rolando Mendoza to the Hague to stand trial for war crimes. When the Poe administration responded by not negotiating with the hijackers, they began to execute over five hostages. By the time the Philippine Constabulary had arrived to rescue the hostages, they arrived too late as the hijackers blew themselves up and killing the remaining hostages. The next day after that traumatic incident, Mamaclay would take his family back to Armenia in disgust at what became of his tragic ridden homeland.
"To this day, I still believed that had General Ver been allowed to stabilize the country, he would have eventually given up his power. Instead, I have to watch my country morph into something that is far worse than both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan," Mamaclay said angrily as he and Hasmig collected the plates from the table. "I knew several Tsinoys from before my parents and I moved to Syria for work purposes, and they were complaining to me that Binondo had undergone several rennovations, that it was no longer the Chinese Binondo that they remembered. Now, Binondo, along with Quiapo and the Manila Bay region, have been transformed into Japantowns, with rich Japanese tycoons buying up all the property in the region. This is the legacy of the Tadiar era: a cultural heritage gone, and a generation corrupted by ethnic hatred and ideological fanaticism."
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Post by gillan1220 on Oct 13, 2023 7:16:45 GMT
Portions from a Leaked Conversation between Former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski and Ex-Ku Klux Klan Klansman David Duke Oh shit. That's really terrifying. Muzychko: True. I remember on March 14th of 1991 that the Soviet soldiers were stuck besieging Ribky, turning into a pitched battle that we barely won, since they were needed for another offensive, this time aiming at Sumy. However, we also realized that Kyiv itself is vulnerable to Soviet capture, so we voted in favor of relocating the seat of the Ukrainian Provisional Government to Ivano-Frankivsk first, and then Lviv. Interviewer: What about the other UNSO fighters that were deploy Ah nod to OTL's Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Oct 13, 2023 12:54:26 GMT
Portions from a Leaked Conversation between Former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski and Ex-Ku Klux Klan Klansman David Duke Oh shit. That's really terrifying. Muzychko: True. I remember on March 14th of 1991 that the Soviet soldiers were stuck besieging Ribky, turning into a pitched battle that we barely won, since they were needed for another offensive, this time aiming at Sumy. However, we also realized that Kyiv itself is vulnerable to Soviet capture, so we voted in favor of relocating the seat of the Ukrainian Provisional Government to Ivano-Frankivsk first, and then Lviv. Interviewer: What about the other UNSO fighters that were deploy Ah nod to OTL's Russian invasion of Ukraine. Remember, this is the same guy who funded the Mujahideen that helped defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan and tragically enough, the same unit he helped create would fight the Americans in Afghanistan IOTL. The 2nd Ukrainian War of Independence in this timeline reboot may draw a lot of references to the current conflict, although it would look more like the OTL Croatian War of Independence.
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Post by gillan1220 on Oct 13, 2023 16:05:53 GMT
Oh shit. That's really terrifying. Ah nod to OTL's Russian invasion of Ukraine. Remember, this is the same guy who funded the Mujahideen that helped defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan and tragically enough, the same unit he helped create would fight the Americans in Afghanistan IOTL. The 2nd Ukrainian War of Independence in this timeline reboot may draw a lot of references to the current conflict, although it would look more like the OTL Croatian War of Independence. What is Zelensky doing in this TL? He's not yet of legal age and I'm sure his acting career is severely butterflied away.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 13, 2023 16:23:27 GMT
Can we keep current events out of this TL, i know it might link to things what happen here but if it becomes to current i might have to move this thread.
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