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Post by razor007 on Apr 10, 2022 17:01:26 GMT
Did not know Nintendo company is that old until I made this thread. On 1889 Nintendo sells the Switch along with ALL of its Physical and Digital Games throughout the world.
Nintendo staff knows how to make more Switch and games. The company has all the necessary technology and infrastructure to produce, ship and have their games played online. Yes, that includes Internet. (If Satellites are necessary they are also included)
I have no idea what happens except for a worldwide-culture shock. Imagine a young Tolkien exposed to the Switch's Zelda Games!
Kirby games has KISSING in them. House of the Dead Remake would certainly bring Zombie culture.
The music that comes with these games, like on Metroid Dread, would greatly change the 1890s music scene
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Post by SpaceOrbisHistory on May 11, 2022 20:43:31 GMT
Did not know Nintendo company is that old until I made this thread. On 1889 Nintendo sells the Switch along with ALL of its Physical and Digital Games throughout the world. Nintendo staff knows how to make more Switch and games. The company has all the necessary technology and infrastructure to produce, ship and have their games played online. Yes, that includes Internet. (If Satellites are necessary they are also included) I have no idea what happens except for a worldwide-culture shock. Imagine a young Tolkien exposed to the Switch's Zelda Games! Kirby games has KISSING in them. House of the Dead Remake would certainly bring Zombie culture. The music that comes with these games, like on Metroid Dread, would greatly change the 1890s music scene Ok so first off this is one of the oddest things I have ever seen. I take it that aside from all the uptime tech being pulled into the late 19th century that everything else is the same. I don't think the US has started their war with Spain so Cuba should still be in their hands at this point in time. But if they are selling this does that mean everything before this was sold before 1889 or is this the first gen of video games? I have never messed with it so I'm unsure what it can do. I'm much more a Sony gamer. But I would think that most people wouldn't have any idea what the thing even is nor do I think most would brother to try the thing out. The TV wasn't around in 1889. I think it wasn't until the 1900s that the first TV was made so that would have to be ISOTed back to this time. Needless to say you would have jump started a lot of tech. Movies with sound would be something that should exist by the 1890s. I would guess the mid to late 1890s would see the end to movies with text. So you just cost a fair number of people a job.
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Post by razor007 on May 11, 2022 21:46:31 GMT
Did not know Nintendo company is that old until I made this thread. On 1889 Nintendo sells the Switch along with ALL of its Physical and Digital Games throughout the world. Nintendo staff knows how to make more Switch and games. The company has all the necessary technology and infrastructure to produce, ship and have their games played online. Yes, that includes Internet. (If Satellites are necessary they are also included) I have no idea what happens except for a worldwide-culture shock. Imagine a young Tolkien exposed to the Switch's Zelda Games! Kirby games has KISSING in them. House of the Dead Remake would certainly bring Zombie culture. The music that comes with these games, like on Metroid Dread, would greatly change the 1890s music scene Ok so first off this is one of the oddest things I have ever seen. I take it that aside from all the uptime tech being pulled into the late 19th century that everything else is the same. I don't think the US has started their war with Spain so Cuba should still be in their hands at this point in time. But if they are selling this does that mean everything before this was sold before 1889 or is this the first gen of video games? I have never messed with it so I'm unsure what it can do. I'm much more a Sony gamer. But I would think that most people wouldn't have any idea what the thing even is nor do I think most would brother to try the thing out. The TV wasn't around in 1889. I think it wasn't until the 1900s that the first TV was made so that would have to be ISOTed back to this time. Needless to say you would have jump started a lot of tech. Movies with sound would be something that should exist by the 1890s. I would guess the mid to late 1890s would see the end to movies with text. So you just cost a fair number of people a job. Don't need a TV to play the Nintendo Switch. Movies back then didn't have color though. Japan's economy is going to explode What about loners, poor kids or those with disabilities?
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Post by simon darkshade on May 11, 2022 22:44:23 GMT
To run and charge these game things, there needs to be much wider electricity available. That would have more consequences in and of itself than kid’s games.
Such devices were not widely spread in the First World until the very late 1990s and not ubiquitous until a decade after that. Among children. It was very much looked down upon in a recognisable world; in 1889, it will be much worse.
Poor children in 1889 will have other priorities, such as being able to eat. Life for the disabled was almost as bad.
The Japanese economy won’t explode, as bugger all people will be able to afford such curios.
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Post by SpaceOrbisHistory on May 17, 2022 1:35:29 GMT
To run and charge these game things, there needs to be much wider electricity available. That would have more consequences in and of itself than kid’s games. Such devices were not widely spread in the First World until the very late 1990s and not ubiquitous until a decade after that. Among children. It was very much looked down upon in a recognizable world; in 1889, it will be much worse. Poor children in 1889 will have other priorities, such as being able to eat. Life for the disabled was almost as bad. The Japanese economy won’t explode, as bugger all people will be able to afford such curios. 1-I agree the fact is that to power these things you would first need electricity in the area which likely wouldn't be all that common in 1889. Looking at when Japan first had electricity of any kind it looks like it was first used on March 25, 1878 at the Institute of Technology in Toranomon, Tokyo. So we are looking at about ten years later. This should help speed this along nicely. Besides I'm sure there exists other uses for these things. I'm unsure what could be gained by taking one apart but anything from our time should hold such use for the people here. 2-The fact of the matter is while having video games in the late 19th century would be a neat idea the fact still remains that they would have far better things to do then sitting around being idle all day. I'm unsure if Japan used kids in the workforce like we did but if so I doubt any kid would have the will to do anything but go to sleep. A day working the fields would ensure the last thing they would want is to be awake any longer then was needed. I know after a hard day I would like the sight of my bed. 3-Their economy isn't likely to do much. We are talking about tech that is more or less 100 years ahead of them. Computers likely could and would see a nice boost in speed following this. But once the thing dies due to having no power it'll just be a big paperweight. A neat thing to eye but not an overly useful thing to have in ones home.
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Post by razor007 on May 18, 2022 22:49:27 GMT
To run and charge these game things, there needs to be much wider electricity available. That would have more consequences in and of itself than kid’s games. Such devices were not widely spread in the First World until the very late 1990s and not ubiquitous until a decade after that. Among children. It was very much looked down upon in a recognizable world; in 1889, it will be much worse. Poor children in 1889 will have other priorities, such as being able to eat. Life for the disabled was almost as bad. The Japanese economy won’t explode, as bugger all people will be able to afford such curios. 1-I agree the fact is that to power these things you would first need electricity in the area which likely wouldn't be all that common in 1889. Looking at when Japan first had electricity of any kind it looks like it was first used on March 25, 1878 at the Institute of Technology in Toranomon, Tokyo. So we are looking at about ten years later. This should help speed this along nicely. Besides I'm sure there exists other uses for these things. I'm unsure what could be gained by taking one apart but anything from our time should hold such use for the people here. 2-The fact of the matter is while having video games in the late 19th century would be a neat idea the fact still remains that they would have far better things to do then sitting around being idle all day. I'm unsure if Japan used kids in the workforce like we did but if so I doubt any kid would have the will to do anything but go to sleep. A day working the fields would ensure the last thing they would want is to be awake any longer then was needed. I know after a hard day I would like the sight of my bed. 3-Their economy isn't likely to do much. We are talking about tech that is more or less 100 years ahead of them. Computers likely could and would see a nice boost in speed following this. But once the thing dies due to having no power it'll just be a big paperweight. A neat thing to eye but not an overly useful thing to have in ones home. 1. Japan now has a modern electric infrastructure grid 2. Factories meant to mass-produce the Switch and its Video Games are also available 3. What about the Rich, Bored, Scientists and Art people?
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Post by simon darkshade on May 19, 2022 3:18:19 GMT
1. This would create a whole host of issues in terms of how to fuel it and the necessary knowledge to service and run it! Even if those are also handwaved into place, the consequences are much, much broader than a children's game.
2. They would go bankrupt, as people wouldn't be able to buy them in the requisite numbers to support and justify running them. This is Japan in the 1880s, a country that whilst in the early stages of industrialisation in some areas has a large part of its population living in rural areas engaged in farming.
3. Rich? They have other interests and things to spend their money on, but they would be the only possible market.
The Bored? This is so broad a category as to be meaningless.
Scientists? Again, a broad category and busy doing their jobs and research and then engaging in traditional Japanese home life. Ditto artists.
I think it is an interesting scenario, but not a workable one. Societies need to achieve a quite high level of affluence before consumer electronics and associated dalliances become mass market products. I don't think that you would be able to make a decent quid off selling this Nintendo Switch, which I gather is something like a Gameboy (the only Nintendo product I've ever engaged with, and that was in 1992), even in the USA in the 1970s. It needs technological and cultural shifts that happen from the 1980s onwards, which went hand in hand with a level of affluence and general wealth light years beyond 19th century Japan.
If we dress a Cro-Magnon man in a tuxedo, he doesn't become a hirsute James Bond - he is still a caveman in some modern skins. Likewise, if you put modern products in the late 19th century, the people aren't suddenly going to become 2020s millenials in their tastes and behaviours.
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Post by SpaceOrbisHistory on May 19, 2022 5:17:21 GMT
It is a neat idea to be sure but you can't really handwave this stuff into working. The people of the time were far too busy farming and surviving to ever care about this magic handheld box that makes noise and moves tiny people around. Even if we say everything was handwaved away and they have the means to power this stuff that in no way means that you'll have a base of ready-made users for this stuff.
This is Japan in the late 19th century. If this was the United States then maybe you would have better luck but even then I would say it would need to be in one of the bigger cities and with something a bit more dated. Maybe one of the first-gen would work better. Anything from the 1970s could maybe work for this. But something from the 21st centary is a no go. It's just too high tech for such a setting.
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